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Post by JokerFC on Feb 24, 2024 2:30:41 GMT -5
So We all know the story....he comes in in 1998 to great fanfare...does zip, gets injured a bunch & participates in hokey backstage segments that have aged really poorly. But you had a shot at the book and you had all parties willing what would you have done?
Personally I wouldn't have changed much. The backstage segments would have been gone in favor of Warrior taking out jobber nWo members left and right. Then we get to Fall Brawl. I think the idea here was ok in principle... but WOW the execution and Warriors subsequent injuries were terrible.
When what Warrior was capable of was seen? I def would have scrapped the singles match at HH98 and pivoted to a tag match where we get Hogan/Bret vs Sting/Warrior. It would have felt WAY bigger IMO than what we got. It had huge novelty factor & fans clearly would have ate up the Sting/Warrior team, Hart vs Warrior was new, It would have disguised the weakness of Hogan/Warrior & Sting/Hart could have carried the match. Most importantly? It still would have felt BIG & was certainly ME worthy.
If Hogan has to get the W at HH98 over Warrior as is rumored? Have Jim eat the pin. Sting is going away after HH98 so him getting beat is the better option.
What would you all have done with Warrior in WCW 98?
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Post by hbkjason on Feb 24, 2024 3:20:09 GMT -5
I was so excited when Warrior came into WCW. I know it is easy to look back and see how terrible at least half of it WA ls (I'm probably being kind there) however, it was the most excited I had ever been for WCW.
I agree with everything you said, especially the part about getting rid of the backstage skuta. Warrior laying waste to lower ranked NWO members for a few weeks would have been far more impactful.
That could have led to Hogan not wanting to face him alone and forcing Bret to team up with him like you said.
While it is mocked today, no WCW show had as stacked a card as Halloween Havoc 98 in my opinion.
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Post by JokerFC on Feb 24, 2024 3:33:27 GMT -5
I was so excited when Warrior came into WCW. I know it is easy to look back and see how terrible at least half of it WA ls (I'm probably being kind there) however, it was the most excited I had ever been for WCW. I agree with everything you said, especially the part about getting rid of the backstage skuta. Warrior laying waste to lower ranked NWO members for a few weeks would have been far more impactful. That could have led to Hogan not wanting to face him alone and forcing Bret to team up with him like you said. While it is mocked today, no WCW show had as stacked a card as Halloween Havoc 98 in my opinion. it is incredible.......and it was booked so poorly it makes it even more unbelievable. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2024 19:51:52 GMT -5
I was so excited when Warrior came into WCW. I know it is easy to look back and see how terrible at least half of it WA ls (I'm probably being kind there) however, it was the most excited I had ever been for WCW. I agree with everything you said, especially the part about getting rid of the backstage skuta. Warrior laying waste to lower ranked NWO members for a few weeks would have been far more impactful. That could have led to Hogan not wanting to face him alone and forcing Bret to team up with him like you said. While it is mocked today, no WCW show had as stacked a card as Halloween Havoc 98 in my opinion. same here! being a 1985-1996 fan anytime legends came back i loved it. ESP Warrior & Piper & Henning & Jake the Snake, etc. HH98 was so stacked as we talked about in the one thread about it a bit back. whole card was a letdown (goldberg/ddp was good tho). i think like u said, hav him destroy lower end nwo members for a few weeks, then do a tag match, then a few big singles match. i hated he didnt "wrestle" much in either wwf/wcw combacks in late 90's. wanted to see more of him. and for those that might not remember, Blade Runners had 1 reunion match on nitro vs Hogan/Hart: |
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Post by MKSavage on Feb 24, 2024 20:27:07 GMT -5
Hard to say. I think they were doing the right thing. The person to put him with first was Hogan. They built it really well with Hogan running scared from him on Nitro's and the War Games match. With the Halloween Havoc match, and Hogan going over, the most appropriate thing to do would have drawn it out and have another match at Starrcade with Warrior going over Hogan. After that, it's hard to see what they should do with Warrior. Hogan was the one to feud with for him. Him and Savage could have been interesting. But who else?
Had Sting still been in the black and white, crow look/gimmick, them two working together to destroy the NWO would have been great. Had the NWO split not already happened by the time they brought him in, Warrior and Sting could have been the right guys to end/split the NWO group. If they could have brought Warrior in earlier, that's what I would have done. After the Starrcade 97 debacle, and Sting never really getting the upper hand on the NWO after Super Brawl 98, Sting would have needed to start his own (pun intended) group/alliance. Maybe after Sting loses the belt to Hogan in the spring of 1998, Sting says he's going to bring in an old friend to help him with the NWO. Most people would probably think that it's Luger, but it would end up being Warrior. This could start the split of the NWO if that is what they really wanted to do. To me, Warrior and Sting could start the storyline to end the NWO, which was getting stale by this time. You could do more tag team match with Sting and Warrior together against the NWO members before getting to Hogan. This would also help get Warrior back into ring-shape, which could have helped him later on in singles matches against Hogan, Savage, Nash, Hall, etc. Once they (Sting & Warrior) destroy the NWO, there wouldn't really be a need for Warrior anymore, which could be good. Let him be an attraction and not a main roster guy. I remember Warrior talking about that when he teamed up with Sting on Nitro that one time, saying that the WCW was Sting's world or something like that, basically saying that this wasn't his company, but he was here to stop Hogan. If that were the case, once the NWO and Hollywood Hogan were destroyed, then Warrior disappearing after it would make sense.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 24, 2024 21:00:57 GMT -5
I loved Warrior in WCW. It was great seeing him come in. I've been a huge fan since forever.
I would have done more Warrior vs Hogan, vs Savage, more teaming with Sting & facing off against Sting etc.
Warrior vs. Goldberg, eventually, Warrior winning the WCW World Title at least once as well.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Feb 25, 2024 11:30:58 GMT -5
I feel like Warrior was breaking down physically by this era of his career. He could still do it, but definitely not like he was doing it just a few years earlier.
Hogan/Hart vs. Sting/Warrior at Halloween Havoc would have been a great match with Sting and Bret hiding the others weaknesses.
I picture Bret taking Sting out with the bat outside of the ring near the end of the match, therefore Sting is down and holding his knee. Hogan then blinds Warrior, Warrior comes close to the ropes, and Bret hits Warrior in the back with the bat as well. Warrior goes down, and Hogan drops the leg, and gets the 1...2...3!
Big win for Hogan and Hart.
Plus it would help to shorten Halloween Havoc down by 30 minutes too I bet if it was a tag match.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Mar 2, 2024 23:17:28 GMT -5
Warrior vs DDP, Steiner,Booker etc would have also been good.
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Post by dixol on Mar 4, 2024 17:03:57 GMT -5
He should have run through the nWo 1 by 1. That builds to the eventual matchup vs Hogan. Warrior goes over. Hogan sees the error of his ways and returns to the Red and Yellow. Then Hogan runs through the nWo, since he was the one who started it, he is the only one who can destroy it. Redemption.
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Post by CM Tusk on Mar 4, 2024 21:29:23 GMT -5
I’d have Regal do the same thing that he did to Goldberg and then have him put over Hogan and then piss off.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Mar 16, 2024 23:05:42 GMT -5
It would have been cool to see Warrior interact with Mysterio tbh. A tag match with em together would have been sweet.
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Post by Flair Forever on Mar 21, 2024 11:37:40 GMT -5
I really felt like the "Money Match" at this time would have been Warrior VS. Goldberg....
Goldberg was on that "streak" and had a similar Aura of Warrior at the time.... the match might have sucked (well, it probably WOULD have sucked)... but ideally they could have had someone like a William Regal or a great ring mind help book it as the "Unstoppable Force vs. The Immovable Object" type thing and it could have been the biggest thing since Hogan VS. Warrior at Wrestlemania 6.....
I was kind of hoping they'd move toward Warrior VS. Goldberg but they never did.
Other matches I think could have been cool: Warrior VS. The Giant...... Warrior VS. Scott Hall (remember we never really got that in WWF)..... and Warrior VS. Ric Flair..... and some combination of Sting/Warrior vs. Flair/Horsemen
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Mar 23, 2024 15:53:51 GMT -5
I wouldn’t
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Mar 23, 2024 16:15:27 GMT -5
I really felt like the "Money Match" at this time would have been Warrior VS. Goldberg.... Goldberg was on that "streak" and had a similar Aura of Warrior at the time.... the match might have sucked (well, it probably WOULD have sucked)... but ideally they could have had someone like a William Regal or a great ring mind help book it as the "Unstoppable Force vs. The Immovable Object" type thing and it could have been the biggest thing since Hogan VS. Warrior at Wrestlemania 6..... I was kind of hoping they'd move toward Warrior VS. Goldberg but they never did. Other matches I think could have been cool: Warrior VS. The Giant...... Warrior VS. Scott Hall (remember we never really got that in WWF)..... and Warrior VS. Ric Flair..... and some combination of Sting/Warrior vs. Flair/Horsemen Warrior vs Goldberg would have been HUGE |
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Post by JokerFC on Mar 24, 2024 22:30:50 GMT -5
I really felt like the "Money Match" at this time would have been Warrior VS. Goldberg.... Goldberg was on that "streak" and had a similar Aura of Warrior at the time.... the match might have sucked (well, it probably WOULD have sucked)... but ideally they could have had someone like a William Regal or a great ring mind help book it as the "Unstoppable Force vs. The Immovable Object" type thing and it could have been the biggest thing since Hogan VS. Warrior at Wrestlemania 6..... I was kind of hoping they'd move toward Warrior VS. Goldberg but they never did. Other matches I think could have been cool: Warrior VS. The Giant...... Warrior VS. Scott Hall (remember we never really got that in WWF)..... and Warrior VS. Ric Flair..... and some combination of Sting/Warrior vs. Flair/Horsemen Giant/Warrior would have been a great spectacle for sure... |
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Post by TheXtremisT on Mar 31, 2024 16:41:43 GMT -5
Upon watching his WCW run a couple of years ago, I thought of this question myself. And could only come up with the idea of tweaking his look slightly and his attitude. He needed a Sting-like character tweak.
I was thinking he should have returned as he did, beat a few NWO guys, but slowly become a bit more ruthless and intimidating as the NWO would gang up on him and force a change. Wet his hair, wear a leather mask, same shape as his facepaint, but dirty looking, maybe similar to Kane's 2011-2012 mask, or a look similar to REDRUM/RELLIK from TNA.
Basically like crow Sting but with a darker more violent take, keep the promos and be a bit more like a Punisher type where he sought revenge on guys. Make it so even the faces didn't trust him, but not like Sting where we all wanted him to be a good guy. But more like a rogue agent and one who did what he wanted when he wanted. Like a more gimmicky Austin but with a mysterious side.
Then transition him into feuding with the top faces of the company, first as a tweener, then a full-on heel. Have him be a top heel with the strap.
Of course, Warrior would never have gone for this because he was a "superhero" to young kids. But even if he tweaked at least some of his character look and attitude, it may have worked. But his ego prevented that.
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