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Post by MKSavage on May 15, 2024 20:35:53 GMT -5
The attire isn’t the exact attire from the match. Odds are, Mattel saw this as an opportunity to get us the early 80s NWA Harley that everyone wanted, since this is more analogous to his Starrcade 83 attire, but it works close enough to his look for his longest NWA title run since he had the perm and the distinctive mustache for so much of the reign. Race wore those iconic red white and blue boots in that Starrcade 83 match. So this territory legends release doesnt qualify at all to me. Im literally passing on this set because of Harley’s huge black boots The attire for Billy Graham also isn't from that match. Very odd to highlight that particular match but not use the attires the wrestlers wore from it. Figures are still great. Too great, for me, to pass up. |
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Post by J-MANN on May 15, 2024 21:06:24 GMT -5
Steve said without Ali this four pack doesn’t happen. So I’m extremely thankful for the deal Mattel had with him.
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Post by rkmo: Everyone Else but Me on May 15, 2024 21:21:31 GMT -5
Steve said without Ali this four pack doesn’t happen. So I’m extremely thankful for the deal Mattel had with him. He deserves it *👏 👏 👏👏👏* |
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on May 15, 2024 21:44:29 GMT -5
Steve said without Ali this four pack doesn’t happen. So I’m extremely thankful for the deal Mattel had with him. Ali will be posed taking a Cody cutter for his service. Or lack thereof. 😁 |
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Post by rkmo: Everyone Else but Me on May 15, 2024 21:55:13 GMT -5
Steve said without Ali this four pack doesn’t happen. So I’m extremely thankful for the deal Mattel had with him. Ali will be posed taking a Cody cutter for his service. Or lack thereof. 😁 Should instead be a weigh-in, like the last time Cody faced a pro boxer |
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Post by Mr. Yellow on May 15, 2024 22:06:49 GMT -5
Steve said without Ali this four pack doesn’t happen. So I’m extremely thankful for the deal Mattel had with him. Where did he say that? If this sells well, I hope they don't think it's because of Ali, no disrespect to the man. |
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on May 15, 2024 23:31:56 GMT -5
Steve said without Ali this four pack doesn’t happen. So I’m extremely thankful for the deal Mattel had with him. Where did he say that? If this sells well, I hope they don't think it's because of Ali, no disrespect to the man. Seriously. Love Ali as a person and his promos were legendary but it’s been so long and the kind of shite modern wrestling does too often has created more “fans” who don’t actually like combat, they like stupid bullcrapironically or watching nerds play with each other. And those people don’t appreciate boxers or extend their appreciation of Ali to wanting a figure of him. Technically speaking, Ali is the most historically important person Mattel has likely ever depicted in any toy line, since he was a revolutionary and inspired generations of activists for social Justice and athletes across almost all sports. But, sadly, that doesn’t translate to wrestling action figure collectors. |
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Post by ddt4thee on May 16, 2024 0:05:30 GMT -5
Where did he say that? If this sells well, I hope they don't think it's because of Ali, no disrespect to the man. Seriously. Love Ali as a person and his promos were legendary but it’s been so long and the kind of crape modern wrestling does too often has created more “fans” who don’t actually like combat, they like stupid bullcrap ironically or watching nerds play with each other. And those people don’t appreciate boxers or extend their appreciation of Ali to wanting a figure of him. Technically speaking, Ali is the most historically important person Mattel has likely ever depicted in any toy line, since he was a revolutionary and inspired generations of activists for social Justice and athletes across almost all sports. But, sadly, that doesn’t translate to wrestling action figure collectors. Ali was a great athlete and boxer...but this line is for pro wrestling. This is going to seem radical to you I know, but check this out: Wrestling fans don't appreciate figures of boxers in a wrestling figure line because it's a wrestling figure line. Especially when they see multiple figures of that same boxer in the wrestling line. Wrestling action figure collectors want to buy wrestling action figures. Weird huh? Go figure. Pun intended. |
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Post by ztj_wwf on May 16, 2024 0:19:22 GMT -5
Seriously. Love Ali as a person and his promos were legendary but it’s been so long and the kind of crape modern wrestling does too often has created more “fans” who don’t actually like combat, they like stupid bullcrap ironically or watching nerds play with each other. And those people don’t appreciate boxers or extend their appreciation of Ali to wanting a figure of him. Technically speaking, Ali is the most historically important person Mattel has likely ever depicted in any toy line, since he was a revolutionary and inspired generations of activists for social Justice and athletes across almost all sports. But, sadly, that doesn’t translate to wrestling action figure collectors. Ali was a great athlete and boxer...but this line is for pro wrestling. This is going to seem radical to you I know, but check this out: Wrestling fans don't appreciate figures of boxers in a wrestling figure line because it's a wrestling figure line. Especially when they see multiple figures of that same boxer in the wrestling line. Wrestling action figure collectors want to buy wrestling action figures. Weird huh? Go figure. Pun intended. I'd say Monsoon and Ali's interaction is a pretty memorable pro-wrestling moment, as is Ali refereeing at the first Wrestlemania. As a wrestling fan and collector of wrestling figures, these looks were must-haves for me. The boxing attire in the Legends line...Not so much. |
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on May 16, 2024 0:24:46 GMT -5
Seriously. Love Ali as a person and his promos were legendary but it’s been so long and the kind of crape modern wrestling does too often has created more “fans” who don’t actually like combat, they like stupid bullcrap ironically or watching nerds play with each other. And those people don’t appreciate boxers or extend their appreciation of Ali to wanting a figure of him. Technically speaking, Ali is the most historically important person Mattel has likely ever depicted in any toy line, since he was a revolutionary and inspired generations of activists for social Justice and athletes across almost all sports. But, sadly, that doesn’t translate to wrestling action figure collectors. Ali was a great athlete and boxer...but this line is for pro wrestling. This is going to seem radical to you I know, but check this out: Wrestling fans don't appreciate figures of boxers in a wrestling figure line because it's a wrestling figure line. Especially when they see multiple figures of that same boxer in the wrestling line. Wrestling action figure collectors want to buy wrestling action figures. Weird huh? Go figure. Pun intended. Did you read my last few sentences? Cause I basically said that lol |
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Post by ddt4thee on May 16, 2024 6:18:21 GMT -5
Ali was a great athlete and boxer...but this line is for pro wrestling. This is going to seem radical to you I know, but check this out: Wrestling fans don't appreciate figures of boxers in a wrestling figure line because it's a wrestling figure line. Especially when they see multiple figures of that same boxer in the wrestling line. Wrestling action figure collectors want to buy wrestling action figures. Weird huh? Go figure. Pun intended. Did you read my last few sentences? Cause I basically said that lol Yeah, but it was the way you said it. |
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Post by ddt4thee on May 16, 2024 6:19:45 GMT -5
Ali was a great athlete and boxer...but this line is for pro wrestling. This is going to seem radical to you I know, but check this out: Wrestling fans don't appreciate figures of boxers in a wrestling figure line because it's a wrestling figure line. Especially when they see multiple figures of that same boxer in the wrestling line. Wrestling action figure collectors want to buy wrestling action figures. Weird huh? Go figure. Pun intended. I'd say Monsoon and Ali's interaction is a pretty memorable pro-wrestling moment, as is Ali refereeing at the first Wrestlemania. As a wrestling fan and collector of wrestling figures, these looks were must-haves for me. The boxing attire in the Legends line...Not so much. One Ali figure was enough, a referee. Agreed. |
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Post by coldblooded on May 16, 2024 6:49:09 GMT -5
Steve said without Ali this four pack doesn’t happen. So I’m extremely thankful for the deal Mattel had with him. Honestly, starting to think Steve says things just to say them nowadays. |
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Post by ztj_wwf on May 16, 2024 7:19:41 GMT -5
Steve said without Ali this four pack doesn’t happen. So I’m extremely thankful for the deal Mattel had with him. Honestly, starting to think Steve says things just to say them nowadays. Why is it so hard to believe that higher-ups at Mattel would sign off on a set like this based on the fact that Muhammad Ali is a major worldwide icon? It might not even be based on sales of his prior figures, but on just having a major name like that in a Mattel Creations set. |
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on May 16, 2024 7:29:12 GMT -5
Did you read my last few sentences? Cause I basically said that lol Yeah, but it was the way you said it. Me being thoughtful is not some attack, bruv |
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Post by FigFanVader on May 16, 2024 7:54:29 GMT -5
Steve said without Ali this four pack doesn’t happen. So I’m extremely thankful for the deal Mattel had with him. Where did he say that? If this sells well, I hope they don't think it's because of Ali, no disrespect to the man. If anything, Ali makes me hesitant to buy a set I would otherwise consider an instant purchase. I already skipped the last retro set because he was in it. |
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Post by coldblooded on May 16, 2024 8:00:09 GMT -5
Honestly, starting to think Steve says things just to say them nowadays. Why is it so hard to believe that higher-ups at Mattel would sign off on a set like this based on the fact that Muhammad Ali is a major worldwide icon? It might not even be based on sales of his prior figures, but on just having a major name like that in a Mattel Creations set. Nothing personal but looking on the outside the decisions made as a whole, just seem odd. |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on May 16, 2024 8:11:09 GMT -5
Here’s what y’all ain’t getting. Steve, Bill, etc first have to sell to their bosses. Their bosses who short packed King Harley Race. Who wanted to make the legends GH Bruno a Target online exclusive. Who vastly underproduced Gorilla. Who saw talents like Rocky Johnson, Mae Young, and Billy Graham underperform and warm pegs. Those same bosses who upped the production numbers for SDCC Ali. So yeah, I suspect when they went to pitch this set, they knew Ali would be what gets them to agree to it.
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Post by biggerbetterbadder on May 16, 2024 8:27:04 GMT -5
Steve said without Ali this four pack doesn’t happen. So I’m extremely thankful for the deal Mattel had with him. That’s unfortunate if Mattel feels that they needed Ali to ok this set. Just shows you they are hesitant on anything pre 80s. I guess Powertown will have to pick up the slack for us. Just too bad they are so slow getting figures out. |
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on May 16, 2024 8:37:04 GMT -5
"Isacc Yankem will fly off the pegs! Let's do The Shockmaster! But if you want a Harley Race and a Superstar Billy Graham you're gonna need to package it with a suited Ali! That'll do the trick!"
- Mattel, I guess.
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