powerfred3k
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Post by powerfred3k on May 11, 2024 12:20:55 GMT -5
From the man himself, says he is not under a legends deal but separate deals for video games and action figures.
For years the people at mattel have droned on about "if only they where under a legends deal".
So someone is lying here either Bischoff or Mattel. Skip of the 5 min and 8 second mark on the video.
Says he has 11 months left on that deal, so that is pretty specific and lends me to believe him.
Even if mattel only recently sign him to a deal for figures to be made and no one else until that point, it still invalidates people in charge of the wwe mattel team.
I would love for those mattel people to respond to this.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on May 11, 2024 12:29:53 GMT -5
I could be remembering it differently, but I feel like I've also heard that Legends deals are not always identical across the board. I definitely feel like I've heard Steve, etc. say that a Legends deal does not 100% mean available to Mattel.
EDIT: throughout the Q&A thread, Steve seems to field a lot of queries about "Legends Deals" by specifically mentioning "deals that allow figures".
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Post by Warriah' on May 11, 2024 12:31:27 GMT -5
I think things have changed over the last couple of years. For a while you would only get people with legends deals getting figs but I believe there’s more flexibility now. Which is why we’re seeing more new faces lately.
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Post by powerfred3k on May 11, 2024 12:35:58 GMT -5
I could be remembering it differently, but I feel like I've also heard that Legends deals are not always identical across the board. I definitely feel like I've heard Steve, etc. say that a Legends deal does not 100% mean available to Mattel. No man we have heard for years and years from bill and steve that (insert wrestling talent name here) can not have a figure made because they are not under a legends deal. If that has changed recently because of the tko merger ok, then say that. That is there only excuse now if bischoff is being honest. I and others have said repeatedly "why can't a person just have a separate deal to have figures made ?" I am not letting mattel off the hook on this one, a lot figures have not been made because of this red tape excuse. Now look they could have done a figure only deal with talents. |
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Post by cableV on May 11, 2024 12:43:42 GMT -5
Did they change the name of the Legends deals to Nostalgia contracts, or are those separate deals? Maybe the Nostalgia contracts allow for
figures and merch, without the restrictions of the old Legends deals?
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Post by @WWERetroStars on May 11, 2024 12:55:11 GMT -5
My guess is a Legends Deal is all encompassing. Probably covers all merch and product lines. Maybe even has a tie in with appearances and other usage of talent’s name / image / likeness.
Beyond that, I’m sure there are some a la carte approaches where talent / WWE can agree to just certain elements.
I always wonder about Jake and Billy Gunn - both under AEW contract and both still having WWE figures made.
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Post by The Assassin on May 11, 2024 13:25:53 GMT -5
I'd like a Slamboree 1998 Bischoff with a new headscan with messy hair and unshaven look. The Nitro ring Bischoff headscans were rather a mediocre likeness IMO.
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Post by originalniceguy on May 11, 2024 13:37:00 GMT -5
I could be remembering it differently, but I feel like I've also heard that Legends deals are not always identical across the board. I definitely feel like I've heard Steve, etc. say that a Legends deal does not 100% mean available to Mattel. No man we have heard for years and years from bill and steve that (insert wrestling talent name here) can not have a figure made because they are not under a legends deal. If that has changed recently because of the tko merger ok, then say that. That is there only excuse now if bischoff is being honest. I and others have said repeatedly "why can't a person just have a separate deal to have figures made ?" I am not letting mattel off the hook on this one, a lot figures have not been made because of this red tape excuse. Now look they could have done a figure only deal with talents. WWE have restructured their deals for alumni. Mattel could only create figures of talent under Legends deals as those seemed to be the only merchandise deals being offered. In recent times they've restructured and some talent (eg Headbangers) have what is called "nostalgia" deals which appear to differ from Legends contracts. I assume Bischoff is under a similar deal. Same logic applies, regardless of the name of the contract WWE provides the talent with, the talent still needs to be under a merchandise deal with WWE for Mattel to be able to release a Figure. |
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on May 11, 2024 13:37:51 GMT -5
Eh I think we got the ones we need
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Post by stc13 on May 11, 2024 13:39:42 GMT -5
For all intents and purposes, Legends contracts don't exist. The language in the deal Bischoff signed most likely references the WWE Nostalgia Program. So no, he probably has no clue what a Legends contract is. But they're the same thing.
I don't know why people keep hoping there is greater mystery than there is to who is or isn't likely to get a figure.
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Post by stc13 on May 11, 2024 13:40:43 GMT -5
No man we have heard for years and years from bill and steve that (insert wrestling talent name here) can not have a figure made because they are not under a legends deal. If that has changed recently because of the tko merger ok, then say that. That is there only excuse now if bischoff is being honest. I and others have said repeatedly "why can't a person just have a separate deal to have figures made ?" I am not letting mattel off the hook on this one, a lot figures have not been made because of this red tape excuse. Now look they could have done a figure only deal with talents. WWE have restructured their deals for alumni. Mattel could only create figures of talent under Legends deals as those seemed to be the only merchandise deals being offered. In recent times they've restructured and some talent (eg Headbangers) have what is called "nostalgia" deals which appear to differ from Legends contracts. I assume Bischoff is under a similar deal. Same logic applies, regardless of the name of the contract WWE provides the talent with, the talent still needs to be under a merchandise deal with WWE for Mattel to be able to release a Figure. There's absolutely no indication that legends or nostalgia contracts are any different from one another. The contract language has said "WWE nostalgia program" going back at least a decade. www.documentcloud.org/documents/3549783-Bryan-Clark-Legends-Contract-OCR |
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Post by AxelSmackdown on May 11, 2024 13:49:58 GMT -5
I don’t see why a deal only for video games and action figures couldn’t exist.
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Post by AxelSmackdown on May 11, 2024 13:53:35 GMT -5
Is Scott Steiner still not doable because he would need a legends contract? Do you know if he’s willing to sign one now that he’s back the wwe universe kind of with appearing at the hog Scott would need a deal that allowed for action figures. Steve said this in December 2022. He didn’t specify what kind of contract, just that it would need to allow for action figures. |
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on May 11, 2024 14:47:53 GMT -5
EB in a removeable black jean jacket in black pants, molded nWo shirt w/ non-box mic in the MNW line RIGHT NOW TODAY.
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Post by TheXtremisT on May 11, 2024 15:17:52 GMT -5
Scott would need a deal that allowed for action figures. Steve said this in December 2022. He didn’t specify what kind of contract, just that it would need to allow for action figures. That's very interesting in that discussion regarding Scott Steiner needing to be under contract for a figure. Because his figure came out in September last year, meaning he'd have been in the planning stages literally as Steve responded to the question, therefore he'd have been signed to a deal a couple of months before that. AFA was keeping a cool hand as always.... |
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Post by Action Figure Attack on May 11, 2024 15:18:36 GMT -5
Bischoff has a deal with WWE that allows for action figures.
Mystery solved.
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Post by Flair Forever on May 11, 2024 15:51:43 GMT -5
For all intents and purposes, Legends contracts don't exist. The language in the deal Bischoff signed most likely references the WWE Nostalgia Program. So no, he probably has no clue what a Legends contract is. But they're the same thing. I don't know why people keep hoping there is greater mystery than there is to who is or isn't likely to get a figure. Bischoff is a really smart man. He's choosing his words very carefully. The underlying question is "how can you remain impartial when critiquing WWE/AEW shows while you are under a WWE contract?" He purposely says he signed a deal with "Mattel" because of the top notch quality of the figures they make. He's avoiding saying that he's under a WWE deal (as Steve has just confirmed) because he wants to be seen as impartial. Reading between the lines - He is saying that he signed the WWE deal because of the top quality Mattel merch that will be put out. And rightfully so! * For my money, the RA Bischoff is damn near perfect.... one of Mattel's best figures to-date. |
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on May 11, 2024 15:53:33 GMT -5
I've got the RA elite and ultimate so I'm covered. I would buy a current, tattoed, drunk on smark tears Bischoff figure.
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Post by powerfred3k on May 11, 2024 16:48:57 GMT -5
Bischoff has a deal with WWE that allows for action figures. Mystery solved. That is not a "legends deal" which was the main reason other talents could not have a figure made in the past. "I signed a deal for action figures, and i think I have 11 months left on that deal." |
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on May 11, 2024 16:56:31 GMT -5
Bischoff was signed under a contract with the necessary language for action figures, others weren't 🤷
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I dont know good luck 
