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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 11, 2007 21:51:47 GMT -5
Its that time again. The annual Teddy Hart debate has begun. It happened again. Teddy Hart has been fired by the E. No reason has been officialy announced, but I am sure the safe money is due to his attitude issues. Why cant he just shut his mouth and do what is asked of him? Why is it always Teddy vs. The World? I want Teddy Hart on my tv. I want the New Hart Foundation. Now its ruined. Typical Teddy Hart.
I'm sorry to bitch and whine here about this......but Teddy Hart has so much athletic talent, its absurd. His ability inside that ring is phenomenal. Yet, he cant keep his mouth shut long enough for the world wide audience to see it. He has a million dollar body, million dollar ability and a million dollar name. Yet he has a 2 cent mouth that flaps more than a ducks ass.
UndisputedKid.....I know you are a HUGE Teddy fan. I hope to hear your 2 cents on this most recent of an issue. Any light you can shine on the situation for why Teddy is gone from the E? Future plans? Because isnt he basically black balled across the indy circuit at this point? ROH, CZW and JAPW dont want him.
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Post by American Phenom on Oct 11, 2007 21:57:53 GMT -5
Teddy Hart is a jackass.
That is all.
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Post by cureforthesickness on Oct 11, 2007 21:59:34 GMT -5
he lasted a hell of a lot longer than I expected
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Post by the franchise on Oct 11, 2007 22:01:20 GMT -5
I didn't know that you had to be a saint to be in the WWE. How much worse could his attitude really be than say Orton or what HBK had in the past.
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Post by youcantstopit on Oct 11, 2007 22:20:43 GMT -5
I'd be willing to bet he's back in JAPW by the end of the year. Frank never keeps his promise or backs up his statements on talent.
He's been fired 3 times by the E. He won't get another shot there.
My hope is that Teddy gets some mental therapy. It's pretty obvious he's not been the same since the death of his brother, and I really hope he can get himself off drugs. He's wasting his life away.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Oct 11, 2007 22:31:55 GMT -5
I am a big Teddy Hart fan but I agree with Showstopper and just about anyone in this thread. Teddy is throwing his life away. It seems like right when he's on top and has something great going for himself he has to screw it up some how. He was brought into ROH and screwed up there. He was brought into JAPW as the top guy and kept himself in tack for awhile until no showing. He was then back once again doing fine, seemed to clean up his act, wins the JAPW Title and screws it up. Now he finally gets what he's been asking for and he screws that up too. I don't think he will get another shot in WWE and I really have no idea where he goes from here. Everyone, even the people who aren't fans of him were hoping he would do good and make some of the best WWE TV moments we have seen in years with the New Hart Foundation but once again Teddy does something to screw up. It does suck that guys like Orton can do whatever because of their position and get away with it but then another guy screws up that isn't as high up on the card as him it's wrong. I however am in no way saying whatever Teddy did was right. I really do think he has mental problems and I'm dead serious when I say that. I think he's either BiPolar or skitsafranic(sp?). I'm dead serious.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 11, 2007 22:44:00 GMT -5
I am a big Teddy Hart fan but I agree with Showstopper and just about anyone in this thread. Teddy is throwing his life away. It seems like right when he's on top and has something great going for himself he has to screw it up some how. He was brought into ROH and screwed up there. He was brought into JAPW as the top guy and kept himself in tack for awhile until no showing. He was then back once again doing fine, seemed to clean up his act, wins the JAPW Title and screws it up. Now he finally gets what he's been asking for and he screws that up too. I don't think he will get another shot in WWE and I really have no idea where he goes from here. Everyone, even the people who aren't fans of him were hoping he would do good and make some of the best WWE TV moments we have seen in years with the New Hart Foundation but once again Teddy does something to screw up. It does suck that guys like Orton can do whatever because of their position and get away with it but then another guy screws up that isn't as high up on the card as him it's wrong. I however am in no way saying whatever Teddy did was right. I really do think he has mental problems and I'm dead serious when I say that. I think he's either BiPolar or skitsafranic(sp?). I'm dead serious. I'm surprised that Bret hasnt steeped in and tried to get his head on straight. I'm sure Bret recognizes how much talent he has and would want him to succeed. Teddy is going down the road of self destruction. As far as Orton goes.....he is an established star. If Orton was doing what he is doing now when he was working OVW......he would not be where he is today. E has nothing invested in Teddy. The E views that they need Orton. Its stupid too. Vince creates and destroys superstars by snapping his fingers. Its not like Orton is something so damn special that he cant be replaced. But for some reason Vince feels they have invested too much in Orton to just cut his losses now. He wants more return. Teddy has nothing invested and thus its an easy cut. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Oct 11, 2007 22:47:59 GMT -5
I am a big Teddy Hart fan but I agree with Showstopper and just about anyone in this thread. Teddy is throwing his life away. It seems like right when he's on top and has something great going for himself he has to screw it up some how. He was brought into ROH and screwed up there. He was brought into JAPW as the top guy and kept himself in tack for awhile until no showing. He was then back once again doing fine, seemed to clean up his act, wins the JAPW Title and screws it up. Now he finally gets what he's been asking for and he screws that up too. I don't think he will get another shot in WWE and I really have no idea where he goes from here. Everyone, even the people who aren't fans of him were hoping he would do good and make some of the best WWE TV moments we have seen in years with the New Hart Foundation but once again Teddy does something to screw up. It does suck that guys like Orton can do whatever because of their position and get away with it but then another guy screws up that isn't as high up on the card as him it's wrong. I however am in no way saying whatever Teddy did was right. I really do think he has mental problems and I'm dead serious when I say that. I think he's either BiPolar or skitsafranic(sp?). I'm dead serious. I'm surprised that Bret hasnt steeped in and tried to get his head on straight. I'm sure Bret recognizes how much talent he has and would want him to succeed. Teddy is going down the road of self destruction. As far as Orton goes.....he is an established star. If Orton was doing what he is doing now when he was working OVW......he would not be where he is today. E has nothing invested in Teddy. The E views that they need Orton. Its stupid too. Vince creates and destroys superstars by snapping his fingers. Its not like Orton is something so damn special that he cant be replaced. But for some reason Vince feels they have invested too much in Orton to just cut his losses now. He wants more return. Teddy has nothing invested and thus its an easy cut. The funny thing is I remember Bret Hart saying that out of all the next generation Hart family that Teddy was the most talented one. That's arguable but Bret does realize what Teddy Hart can be as does his whole family. I'm surprised none of them have given Teddy a slap upside his head. When his family and his best or former best friend in Jack Evans don't want to be bothered with him you think it would tell him something. That's why he's got to have something mental wrong with him, I mean he can't be THAT stupid. I agree with that last part. No doubt if Orton did what he did in OVW he wouldn't be where he was today. It sucks that it all matters how high you're on the card to get away with stuff but that's how the business has always been and that's how it will always be. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 11, 2007 22:52:18 GMT -5
I'm surprised that Bret hasnt steeped in and tried to get his head on straight. I'm sure Bret recognizes how much talent he has and would want him to succeed. Teddy is going down the road of self destruction. As far as Orton goes.....he is an established star. If Orton was doing what he is doing now when he was working OVW......he would not be where he is today. E has nothing invested in Teddy. The E views that they need Orton. Its stupid too. Vince creates and destroys superstars by snapping his fingers. Its not like Orton is something so damn special that he cant be replaced. But for some reason Vince feels they have invested too much in Orton to just cut his losses now. He wants more return. Teddy has nothing invested and thus its an easy cut. The funny thing is I remember Bret Hart saying that out of all the next generation Hart family that Teddy was the most talented one. That's arguable but Bret does realize what Teddy Hart can be as does his whole family. I'm surprised none of them have given Teddy a slap upside his head. When his family and his best or former best friend in Jack Evans don't want to be bothered with him you think it would tell him something. That's why he's got to have something mental wrong with him, I mean he can't be THAT stupid. I agree with that last part. No doubt if Orton did what he did in OVW he wouldn't be where he was today. It sucks that it all matters how high you're on the card to get away with stuff but that's how the business has always been and that's how it will always be. I think life is like that man. The higher your power in life....the more you can get away with. OJ! |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Oct 11, 2007 22:53:49 GMT -5
The funny thing is I remember Bret Hart saying that out of all the next generation Hart family that Teddy was the most talented one. That's arguable but Bret does realize what Teddy Hart can be as does his whole family. I'm surprised none of them have given Teddy a slap upside his head. When his family and his best or former best friend in Jack Evans don't want to be bothered with him you think it would tell him something. That's why he's got to have something mental wrong with him, I mean he can't be THAT stupid. I agree with that last part. No doubt if Orton did what he did in OVW he wouldn't be where he was today. It sucks that it all matters how high you're on the card to get away with stuff but that's how the business has always been and that's how it will always be. I think life is like that man. The higher your power in life....the more you can get away with. OJ! Very true. It's not just the wrestling business. It's everywhere. |
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Post by slappy on Oct 11, 2007 23:45:36 GMT -5
Teddy Hart is a jackass. That is all. I'm tempted to create a new post, paste that quote in there and sticky it. |
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Post by onemoretime on Oct 12, 2007 0:39:15 GMT -5
I didn't know that you had to be a saint to be in the WWE. How much worse could his attitude really be than say Orton or what HBK had in the past. The difference is that HBK and Orton are some of the WWE's top guys on the main show, whereas Teddy Hart is just a developmental talent. Obviously he's going to be on a much short leash. |
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Post by fallenhero on Oct 12, 2007 3:08:44 GMT -5
I am a big Teddy Hart fan but I agree with Showstopper and just about anyone in this thread. Teddy is throwing his life away. It seems like right when he's on top and has something great going for himself he has to screw it up some how. He was brought into ROH and screwed up there. He was brought into JAPW as the top guy and kept himself in tack for awhile until no showing. He was then back once again doing fine, seemed to clean up his act, wins the JAPW Title and screws it up. Now he finally gets what he's been asking for and he screws that up too. I don't think he will get another shot in WWE and I really have no idea where he goes from here. Everyone, even the people who aren't fans of him were hoping he would do good and make some of the best WWE TV moments we have seen in years with the New Hart Foundation but once again Teddy does something to screw up. It does suck that guys like Orton can do whatever because of their position and get away with it but then another guy screws up that isn't as high up on the card as him it's wrong. I however am in no way saying whatever Teddy did was right. I really do think he has mental problems and I'm dead serious when I say that. I think he's either BiPolar or skitsafranic(sp?). I'm dead serious. I'm surprised that Bret hasnt steeped in and tried to get his head on straight. I'm sure Bret recognizes how much talent he has and would want him to succeed. Teddy is going down the road of self destruction. As far as Orton goes.....he is an established star. If Orton was doing what he is doing now when he was working OVW......he would not be where he is today. E has nothing invested in Teddy. The E views that they need Orton. Its stupid too. Vince creates and destroys superstars by snapping his fingers. Its not like Orton is something so damn special that he cant be replaced. But for some reason Vince feels they have invested too much in Orton to just cut his losses now. He wants more return. Teddy has nothing invested and thus its an easy cut. The bolded part is completely true. The underlined part makes no sense. Orton is one of the youngest guys in the uppercard, plays a damn good heel, and with the right person, can go all out and have an awesome match. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Oct 12, 2007 3:21:23 GMT -5
I'm surprised that Bret hasnt steeped in and tried to get his head on straight. I'm sure Bret recognizes how much talent he has and would want him to succeed. Teddy is going down the road of self destruction. As far as Orton goes.....he is an established star. If Orton was doing what he is doing now when he was working OVW......he would not be where he is today. E has nothing invested in Teddy. The E views that they need Orton. Its stupid too. Vince creates and destroys superstars by snapping his fingers. Its not like Orton is something so damn special that he cant be replaced. But for some reason Vince feels they have invested too much in Orton to just cut his losses now. He wants more return. Teddy has nothing invested and thus its an easy cut. The bolded part is completely true. The underlined part makes no sense. Orton is one of the youngest guys in the uppercard, plays a damn good heel, and with the right person, can go all out and have an awesome match. Orton IS nothing special. It's not like if he left ratings would fall or something. No one even cared to watch RAW the first night he was champion. Ratings were also down when he was champion for the first time. Orton obviously isn't a great heel and doesn't connect with the audience because he isn't drawing. It's still early but time will tell if he can draw as a heel champion. Then he would be a good heel. Right now Orton only looks good because he's being booked to look good. Orton does not sell PPV's like a heel should, that's what makes a good heel. I do agree that Orton can go with the right guy but it's always someone who's above his level like Shawn Michaels, Triple H, the Undertaker or Edge. Orton wouldn't be able to pull a good match out of a Batista or Great Khali like a Shawn Michaels, Triple H or Undertaker can. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 12, 2007 6:09:58 GMT -5
Ratings were obviously down because of the greatest technical wrestler ever, John Cena, being out.
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Post by Steve Holt on Oct 12, 2007 7:40:19 GMT -5
crap he screwed it up again, we hoped it wouldn't happen but we knew it would. all the talent in the world and he throws it all away. i was really looking forward to this faction.
if he does have mental issues he should seek some help quickly and inform the WWE, maybe they'll understand and cover it.
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Post by fallenhero on Oct 12, 2007 9:26:21 GMT -5
Ratings were obviously down because of the greatest technical wrestler ever, John Cena, being out. John Cena's Pay-Per-View matches this year have been better than most other wrestling events. And UK, before you say anything, he was only a part of them, I'm not giving him full credit for them. |
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Post by dmallett4 on Oct 12, 2007 10:10:09 GMT -5
I didn't know that you had to be a saint to be in the WWE. How much worse could his attitude really be than say Orton or what HBK had in the past. The difference is that HBK and Orton are some of the WWE's top guys on the main show, whereas Teddy Hart is just a developmental talent. Obviously he's going to be on a much short leash. what kind of idiot quotes thereself in their sig? |
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Post by xshawnxwilliamsx on Oct 12, 2007 15:30:39 GMT -5
Hahah what the hell, he just never learns to quit giving everyone an attitude backstage. I'm suprised he lasted as long as he did though.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 12, 2007 18:33:16 GMT -5
Hahah what the hell, he just never learns to quit giving everyone an attitude backstage. I'm suprised he lasted as long as he did though. A lot of people have been saying that. |
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