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Post by deskjet on Jul 11, 2007 23:27:38 GMT -5
The whole card looks great.. Every match is something new. Wasn't that what people was complaing about a few months ago? "It's the same ****?" Eric Young & Gail Kim vs Robert Roode INC (Robert Roode & Ms.Brooks) is something new. It gives a new light to the Roode/Young fued. Chris Harris vs James Storm is something new Ultimate X will determine who Samoa Joe drops the strap to via Angle costing him (that's my prediction). So, we'll get new matches out of that probally. Sting & Abyss vs Tomko & AJ Styles is sorta new we've seen Abyss/Styles, Abyss/Tomko. But, never AJ/Sting or Sting/Tomko. So, it's new in a way. Main event has never been done before (as in Team 3D vs Angle & Joe not the stip). James Storm vs RHino is new.. Then if there are more matches annouced by SUnday.. Chris Harris is fighting Christian Cage...I like that match and hope the feud continues. EY vs Roode is ok, but getting old Storm/Rhino is fresh and should be good Hopefully the X gauntlet gets a bit more press before the show I still hate the champions vs champions match, not so much for the concept but for the participants involved. |
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Post by Heresy on Jul 12, 2007 10:51:52 GMT -5
The whole card looks great.. Every match is something new. Wasn't that what people was complaing about a few months ago? Tomko vs. Shark Boy would be something new... that doesn't mean I want to see it. TNA made a horrible move not spreading out the X-division guys... |
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Post by wwemark1 on Jul 12, 2007 11:13:04 GMT -5
The whole card looks great.. Every match is something new. Wasn't that what people was complaing about a few months ago? Tomko vs. Shark Boy would be something new... that doesn't mean I want to see it. TNA made a horrible move not spreading out the X-division guys... Oh yeah, because you people would still complain if they did because of the fact the matches would be shorter. So, I think it's a smart choice. |
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Post by Juba on Jul 12, 2007 14:22:50 GMT -5
Tomko vs. Shark Boy would be something new... that doesn't mean I want to see it. TNA made a horrible move not spreading out the X-division guys... Oh yeah, because you people would still complain if they did because of the fact the matches would be shorter. So, I think it's a smart choice. i would be happy with the more time for the match if there was matches that looked good on the card. again there is only one match that realy sticks out to me right now |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2007 15:02:47 GMT -5
I agree with Juba on this one, the only match I remotely am interested in at this moment in Cage/Harris. Everything else seems "bleh" to me. But i'm sorry SodaGuy, you seem to have taken AP's spot of the "TNA mark" when it comes to defending that this Pay-Per-View looks "great". Nothing that great if you ask me, considering Slammiversary looked AWESOME on paper and this doesn't even look good on that.
Kurt Angle & Samoa Joe vs. Team 3D
* Lets be honest here, we KNOW Team 3D isn't picking up the win. It's just a matter of who will get the pin and who they will pick as their partner. Plus, this only means we're getting Angle/Joe IV-X, which is a match we've seen 3 other times and they weren't all that impressive.
Ultimate X Match
* Seen it enough times and now we see it a good 3-4 times a year. It's like the WWE with Ladder and Steel Cage matches... they're starting to use them too often. We also can pretty much predict that Lethal will walk out the winner of this, so they can get the X strap back on them quickly so it's as if he never lost it 4 days after winning it for the 1st time (which was a damn joke).
Christian Cage vs. Chris Harris
* I must admit this has the potential to easily be Match of the Night. Cage and Harris are both awesome workers and just from Slammiversary, seem to have great chemistry. We'll see what they can do, but i'm sure it'll be good. Not to mention it's 2 main eventers NOT in the main event match.
Rhino vs. James Storm
* Clearly a filler match. Not many people care too much about this match and it's going to show. No complaint on why these 2 are going at it, but it doesn't interest me in the slightest bit .
Eric Young & Gail Kim vs. Robert Roode & Ms. Brooks
* Young/Roode is getting quite stale/old. Young won his freedom back in "the biggest match of his career". You would think that would put an end to this fued, but it feels that this match is more focused around Kim and Brooks, with Young and Roode tossed in there to make it not such a crappy match.
Overall... I won't be ordering this. Instead i'll be going to a local show and supporting some friends' band. I might pick up the DVD for Harris/Cage, however.
- Triple S
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Post by Heresy on Jul 12, 2007 15:34:51 GMT -5
Triple S basically nailed my feelings to the wall on every match... Oh yeah, because you people would still complain if they did because of the fact the matches would be shorter. So, I think it's a smart choice. Your logic makes no sense... who says the X-division guys have to have short matches? Looks like TNA has programmed you to think the X-division is synonymous with '6-man 5 minute spotfest.' I think it should be synonymous with Styles/Joe, Styles/Daniels, Styles/Daniels/Joe, Shelley/Starr, Lynn/Sabin... matches/feuds that had some meaning behind them. TNA could have more great matches/feuds like the ones I mentioned if they would focus more on the guys that brought TNA to the game, and less on trying to fit the has-beens and never-weres into storylines. |
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Post by American Phenom on Jul 12, 2007 16:11:59 GMT -5
Okay, this is my opinion. I'm not going to judge a pay-per-view by the card. Final Resolution had an amazing card from top to bottom but the turnout wasn't good. So here are my opinions on all the matches... Kurt Angle & Samoa Joe vs. Team 3D * We all know whose going to win here, but hopefully they can make it exciting. I have low expectations on this match, but hopefully I'm proven wrong. Ten Man Ultimate X match * This could either be a great match or a giant cluster  . Hopefully TNA clarifies if it's a gauntlet or not tonight on iMPACT. Christian Cage vs. Chris Harris * I honestly think this will steal the show. Robert Roode & Ms. Brooks vs. Eric Young & Gail Kim * In my opinion, this match is pointless. The Young/Roode feud had the perfect ending at Slammiversary, why ruin it with another match? Ugh. AJ Styles & Tomko vs. Sting & Abyss * Could be a really good brawl. Hopefully AJ and Abyss carry the match. Rhino vs. James Storm * This match is going to suck unless it's a street fight or something. So ya, just my opinions on the matches. I'm going to be their live so I'll probably have a better opinion on it afterwards. Also, Triple S, the Ultimate X is only done 2 times a year, not 3-4... |
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Post by American Phenom on Jul 12, 2007 16:17:11 GMT -5
you seem to have taken AP's spot of the "TNA mark" when it comes to defending that this Pay-Per-View looks "great".\ Yea but at that time, I was defending Turning Point & Final Resolution, which had great potential matches... TP: AMW/LAX Daniels/Sabin AJ/Rhino Senshi/Starr/Shelley/Lethal/Dutt Christian/Sting/Abyss Angle/Joe II FR: AJ/Rhino Sabin/Lynn/Daniels Shelley/Starr Christian/Sting/Abyss - Elimination Angle/Joe - Ironman On Turning Point, all the matches turned out good. Final Resolution, well, not so good. This PPV doesn't look so good on paper. |
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Post by wwemark1 on Jul 12, 2007 16:50:40 GMT -5
Triple S basically nailed my feelings to the wall on every match... Oh yeah, because you people would still complain if they did because of the fact the matches would be shorter. So, I think it's a smart choice. Your logic makes no sense... who says the X-division guys have to have short matches? Looks like TNA has programmed you to think the X-division is synonymous with '6-man 5 minute spotfest.' I think it should be synonymous with Styles/Joe, Styles/Daniels, Styles/Daniels/Joe, Shelley/Starr, Lynn/Sabin... matches/feuds that had some meaning behind them. TNA could have more great matches/feuds like the ones I mentioned if they would focus more on the guys that brought TNA to the game, and less on trying to fit the has-beens and never-weres into storylines. No, that is not what I am saying. You have 6 matches right now. If they would put 10 X-Division guys in seperate matches that would take up more time shortening the matches which is something people complain about. I am saying that the 10 man Ultimate X makes sense because it can have the right time. You do 10 X-Division guys in diffrent matches then that would be atleast 3 more matches (3 triple threat matches would leave one guy out) which would take away time from that match for the other matches. So, it's smart to put 10 guys in there & give them a great ammount of time instead of 3-4 diffrent matches at 5-6 minutes apart. That's what I was saying. |
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Post by Heresy on Jul 12, 2007 19:03:19 GMT -5
I wasn't taking into account existing matches on the card, just stating that TNA should have booked more X-division guys in feuds leading up to Victory Road. I mean why book a Rhino vs. Storm feud when TNA has marketing goldmines like LAX, MCMG, Christopher Daniels, AJ Styles, and Black Machismo? Sure they'll all be on the card in one form or another, but these guys deserve their own matches and their own feuds. Abyss, Samoa Joe, and Robert Roode are the only TNA homegrowns that are regularly spotlighted and that shouldn't be the case when the only WWE-acquired talent worth a damn are Kurt Angle and Christian Cage.
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Post by wwemark1 on Jul 12, 2007 21:35:37 GMT -5
Final Card:
MATCH OF CHAMPIONS – EVERY TNA CHAMPIONSHIP ON THE LINE
TNA World Heavyweight Champion Kurt Angle and X Division Champion Samoa Joe vs. TNA World Tag Team Champions Team 3D
CHALLENGE MATCH
“Wildcat” Chris Harris vs. “The Instant Classic” Christian Cage
10 MAN ULTIMATE X MATCH
Featuring: “Black Machismo” Jay Lethal, “The Fallen Angel” Christopher Daniels, Homicide, “The Guru” Sonjay Dutt, Kaz, Shark Boy, the return of “Prime Time” Elix Skipper, Puma and two more TNA X stars to be announced!
TAG TEAM SHOWDOWN
The Icon Sting and “The Monster” Abyss vs. “The Phenomenal” AJ Styles & Tomko
MIXED TAG TEAM MATCH
Eric Young & Gail Kim vs. Robert Roode & Ms. Brooks
OLD SCHOOL VS. NEW SCHOOL
Jerry Lynn & Mr. Backlund vs. Chris Sabin & Alex Shelley
“The War Machine” Rhino vs. “Cowboy” James Storm
Plus, TNAwrestling.com has learned that the Voodoo Kin Mafia are promising a “surprise” for TNA Knockout Christy Hemme this Sunday.
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Post by American Phenom on Jul 12, 2007 22:04:51 GMT -5
Just in case I forget to post this tomorrow, look for me during the show.
I'll be hanging around, and most likely making the sign "If Shelley Loses (Again), We Riot".
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Post by waylon on Jul 12, 2007 22:06:30 GMT -5
Meh, the card looks pretty lackluster. Nothing really stands out to me as "must see".
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Post by wwemark1 on Jul 12, 2007 22:11:46 GMT -5
Just in case I forget to post this tomorrow, look for me during the show. I'll be hanging around, and most likely making the sign "If Shelley Loses (Again), We Riot". Awesome. I made a crap load of signs. When I get back to the hotel on Sunday night imma make more for iMPACT. I got 3 Eric Young signs. |
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Post by American Phenom on Jul 12, 2007 22:17:15 GMT -5
Meh, the card looks pretty lackluster. Nothing really stands out to me as "must see". I agree. But I'd consider the Ultimate X and Cage/Harris "potential" matches. Since they can potentially be MOTY candidates if booked correctly. |
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Post by waylon on Jul 12, 2007 22:19:57 GMT -5
The Ultimate X match will end up being a huge cluster , guaranteed. It'll just be a mess of spots. |
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Post by Juba on Jul 12, 2007 22:21:44 GMT -5
please just have matt sydal in ultimate x... also why is backlund still being booked?
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Post by American Phenom on Jul 12, 2007 22:33:53 GMT -5
The Ultimate X match will end up being a huge cluster , guaranteed. It'll just be a mess of spots. That's why I'm hoping it's a gauntlet until the last four. Jay Lethal, Christopher Daniels, Homicide, Sonjay Dutt, Kaz, Shark Boy, Elix Skipper, Puma, Senshi, ? Final Four: Jay Lethal Christopher Daniels Homicide Senshi Winner: Senshi Samoa Joe vs. Senshi for the X-Division Championship |
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Post by wwemark1 on Jul 12, 2007 22:45:42 GMT -5
They explained the rules on iMPACT
2 superstars will enter to start the match
every 60 (I think) seconds another superstar will enter
Once all 10 guys are in the match Ultimate X will come into play.
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Post by American Phenom on Jul 12, 2007 23:24:03 GMT -5
They explained the rules on iMPACT 2 superstars will enter to start the match every 60 (I think) seconds another superstar will enter Once all 10 guys are in the match Ultimate X will come into play. Not too bad. Should be good. |
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