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Post by sincityhero on Jul 16, 2007 4:19:08 GMT -5
How amazing was angle backstage threwout the night lol
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Post by Liv Is Life on Jul 16, 2007 8:45:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not doing that. Even with no other partner, I consider it a singular title. As do most of us I'm sure, I'm just pointing out that I don't think he was referring to the IWGP title..
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Post by christian1cage on Jul 16, 2007 11:49:13 GMT -5
Triple X reunion + Christian winning = awesome
The rest of the PPV sounded meh.
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Post by slappy on Jul 16, 2007 11:55:24 GMT -5
So, who plays the NAO VKM's manager?
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Post by American Phenom on Jul 16, 2007 12:21:45 GMT -5
I think Victory Road is tied with Sacrifice for TNA PPV of the Year.
Not a "bad" match. The VKM match was meh but their is no such thing as a perfect PPV.
Great show.
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Post by American Phenom on Jul 16, 2007 13:39:33 GMT -5
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Post by kimberlysghost on Jul 16, 2007 13:45:29 GMT -5
Do you think Joe will get in trouble for spitting in JB's face?
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Post by kimberlysghost on Jul 16, 2007 14:10:25 GMT -5
I just realized that was Nikki Roxx that debuted with VKM last night. Good for her. Congrats.
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Post by Jordan on Jul 16, 2007 14:15:08 GMT -5
5 = Match of the year contender 4 = Brilliant 3 = Good 2 = Watchable 1 = Awful 10 Man Ultimate XBrilliant opener to a PPV and it got a good timeslot aswell, enough to really showcase alot of X Division action. Though i didn't like the structure how it was the Elevation X scaffold. Sure it made the falls bigger and more dangerous but also slowed it down alot. There was alot less bumps. The only big one was Kaz hitting the Diamond Cutter on Daniels. THAT was insane. I preferred the old structure to be honest and i do hope they go back to that for the next Ultimate X. Twas good seeing the reunion of Triple X though. Basham and Damaja [vs] VKMAlot of people bashed it but i thought it wasn't too bad. Some good little action bits with Kip James kicking everyone's ass. The Voodoo lady was just silly. Worse than the frigging Boogeyman. Rhino [vs] James StormI would of liked this to off been a bit better than it was but it was still pretty darn good. Problem was Rhino and Storm didn't really click to good as enemies. Very different styles and looking at it Rhino should of crushed him into pieces. The finish was brilliantly planned and well executed. Good aftermath which really put Storm over as a major heel. Sets up a rematch also. Eight Mile Street Fight anyone? Chris Sabin and Alex Shelley [vs] Bob Backlund and Jerry LynnThis would of been a 1 if it wasn't for the Motor City Machine Guns. Backlund? Still wrestling? Jesus. This is bad. Lynn did his best to actually make the match intresting and i'm damn glad that MCMG got the win. Eric Young and Gail Kim [vs] Robert Roode and Ms BrooksIt was alright really. Not brilliant but not bad. Kim and Brooks didn't click as much as Kim did with Jackie a few months ago. Once again though Roode and EY had great chemistry and made the match intresting. Chris Harris [vs] Christian CageI so badly wanted this to be a 4-5 star match. I am a big fan of both Harris and Cage and i really hope Harris is pushed well and Cage is kept at the top. In the end it wasn't too great. I don't think Harris did badly but it wasn't a touch on his battles with James Storm. The finish was good though showing Harris' heart and determination. He could of delivered alot more offence though to put him over. A suplex, lariat and spear is all i can remember. Oh and a random Unprettier. I could of punched half the crowd in attendence mind. They booed Harris quite badly really, which was such a shame and i do hope those in TNA give Harris another chance. He totally deserves it. AJ Styles and Tomko [vs] Abyss and StingThis was actually a really good match. I totally didn't expect these two random teams to work so well but they did. AJ Styles was MVP again. Abyss worked well with Sting and they got the expected win. Mitchell came out and said Abyss would get a suprise soon. I was hoping it would of been at Victory Road but meh. Samoa Joe and Kurt Angle [vs] Team 3DDidn't expect much from the main event, mainly because it has Team 3D in it who arn't the best of workers in terms of putting on brilliant matches. They're matches are all solid but they never raise the bar. Glad Team 3D turned heel. They needed it as a big part of the fans booed them alot. Glad to see Steiners back (Yey Scotty!) but yet weird that Samoa Joe won the Tag gold. Wonder who he'll choose as his partner. It is very odd. Well at least Joe will soon be TNA's 2nd Triple Crown winner. Overall VerdictIt was alright. Not brilliant but definatley worth watching. Apart from the opener there were no must-see matches really. but mostly solid contests i reckon.
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Post by The Undertaker on Jul 16, 2007 16:19:59 GMT -5
I just realized that was Nikki Roxx that debuted with VKM last night. Good for her. Congrats. yup...that was her.
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Post by Blackjack on Jul 17, 2007 17:15:22 GMT -5
I was all over this PPV, did anyone see me? James Storm got thrown right in front of me.
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Post by iwaspushed on Jul 19, 2007 23:28:28 GMT -5
Why does Samoa Joe get both Tag Team titles? I was under the impression that if either Angle or Joe won the match they would become the Tag champs. How can one person be the ing tag team champion???
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Post by wwemark1 on Jul 20, 2007 0:39:43 GMT -5
Why does Samoa Joe get both Tag Team titles? I was under the impression that if either Angle or Joe won the match they would become the Tag champs. How can one person be the ing tag team champion??? No. They made it quite clear the winner picks their tag team partner. In this case Samoa Joe isn't picking anyone & is going to carry the titles alone.
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Post by deskjet on Jul 20, 2007 12:37:09 GMT -5
Why does Samoa Joe get both Tag Team titles? I was under the impression that if either Angle or Joe won the match they would become the Tag champs. How can one person be the ing tag team champion??? No. They made it quite clear the winner picks their tag team partner. In this case Samoa Joe isn't picking anyone & is going to carry the titles alone. I thinl management should step in and force Joe to pick a partner, although it would mess up the HJ ppv
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Post by wwemark1 on Jul 20, 2007 16:54:24 GMT -5
Why would they step in? It would defeat the whole purpose of winner takes all because that would mean someone who's not even in the match could lose their title...
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Post by taker1 on Jul 21, 2007 12:03:25 GMT -5
Why would they step in? It would defeat the whole purpose of winner takes all because that would mean someone who's not even in the match could lose their title... The winner take all angle is stupid, anyways. It's unfair to the other talent in TNA that all the four titles are on the line in one singles match. I mean seriously, ONE person is going to have all the belts after this match. It's pointless.
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Post by American Phenom on Jul 21, 2007 16:12:33 GMT -5
Why would they step in? It would defeat the whole purpose of winner takes all because that would mean someone who's not even in the match could lose their title... The winner take all angle is stupid, anyways. It's unfair to the other talent in TNA that all the four titles are on the line in one singles match. I mean seriously, ONE person is going to have all the belts after this match. It's pointless. Which makes the titles actually seem important. It's a hell of a lot better than the X-Division title being hot shotted around and the tag titles around the waists of Team 3D, that's for sure.
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Post by Death Bear on Jul 22, 2007 0:00:49 GMT -5
The only downside I see to the Hard Justice PPV is, eventually someone is going to have to LOSE all of the titles. Which will make them look extremely bad.
Other than that, I love it. I think it's a really cool and unique concept, with a very interesting result, especially if Joe wins. Sure, it means less title matches, but it's not like they'll have all the titles FOREVER. Hold tight, it'll probably only be for one or two PPVs. I wouldn't even be surprised if say, Joe won, and then Angle screwed him while he was defending the X Division title that week on Impact in like, a triple threat.
What I'm wondering, though, is since all of the promos show Angle holding the IWGP title, will that be on the line too? It would be amazing if TNA got permission to have the IWGP title defended or even change hands at Hard Justice, it would just raise the stakes for this match that much more.
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Post by Heresy on Jul 22, 2007 3:27:39 GMT -5
The winner take all angle is stupid, anyways. It's unfair to the other talent in TNA that all the four titles are on the line in one singles match. I mean seriously, ONE person is going to have all the belts after this match. It's pointless. Which makes the titles actually seem important. It's a hell of a lot better than the X-Division title being hot shotted around and the tag titles around the waists of Team 3D, that's for sure. I agree Team 3D is a craptag team that TNA never should have signed in the first place... but TNA is treating there titles like a big pile of uniform, meaningless poker chips. Sure the stakes are high, but this feud does nothing to help the prestige of the individual titles.
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Post by gregthebunny on Jul 22, 2007 14:52:56 GMT -5
The only downside I see to the Hard Justice PPV is, eventually someone is going to have to LOSE all of the titles. Which will make them look extremely bad. Other than that, I love it. I think it's a really cool and unique concept, with a very interesting result, especially if Joe wins. Sure, it means less title matches, but it's not like they'll have all the titles FOREVER. Hold tight, it'll probably only be for one or two PPVs. I wouldn't even be surprised if say, Joe won, and then Angle screwed him while he was defending the X Division title that week on Impact in like, a triple threat. What I'm wondering, though, is since all of the promos show Angle holding the IWGP title, will that be on the line too? It would be amazing if TNA got permission to have the IWGP title defended or even change hands at Hard Justice, it would just raise the stakes for this match that much more. Yes, Angle's "IWGP" title is on the line as well.
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