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Post by armor on Jul 11, 2007 2:32:43 GMT -5
I DLed it fine the first time. I watched it fine myself. Make yourself sound like your a genius because you could click a link on the internet. Click and ok button and after it DLed it came up on your WMP or realone player. You must be in college going to be like a brain surgeon or a in rocket scientist.
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Post by taihyll on Jul 11, 2007 2:34:44 GMT -5
I must be because so many people here had trouble with it. Its there problem not the servers. get over yourself.
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Post by Blade on Jul 11, 2007 2:43:45 GMT -5
Damn calm down, its just a music video. If people had problems, oh well. If people didn't have problems, good. Instead of insulting the people, maybe try helping them so they can watch the video. A video is worth nothing if you can't show it to anyone.
I also hate it when BYW's think they're the greatest and smartest people because they wrestle in their backyard, do flips that they couldn't even do in a real wrestling ring and make MV's of their matches which can easily be edited. Get trained before you guys kill yourself.
Yeah, I just had to get that out because people from the BYW board come here and act like they're god's gift to the world.
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Post by taihyll on Jul 11, 2007 2:48:13 GMT -5
Damn calm down, its just a music video. If people had problems, oh well. If people didn't have problems, good. I also hate it when BYW's think they're the greatest and smartest people because they wrestle in their backyard, do flips that they couldn't even do in a real wrestling ring and make MV's of their matches which can easily be edited. Get trained before you guys kill yourself. I just had to get that out because people from the BYW board come here and act like they're god's gift to the world. 1 I own a ring 2 i use vegas and After Effects to do my videos, Lee ANdrews, the guy who made this, also BYW's so get off your high horse and dont act like you didnt enjoy this. 3 Most BYWers these days or at least "the inner circle" have been trained, that old stupid crap went out in 2000 4 Considering I work indies and am wrestling someone from WWE next week, I owuld say I do know a thing or two of what i am doing. 5 If BYWers were so stupid how come non of us ever have problems dling videos?
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jul 11, 2007 2:53:56 GMT -5
If you're trained then why the hell are you doing backyard wrestling? Wrestlers in the business look down on that. Plus just cause you work indys doesn't always mean you're trained. There's plenty of indys out there that ain't worth a damn that will just book whoever as long as they sell tickets. Not to mention wrestling a former WWE star has nothing to do with being good. I've seen some of the worst pro's ever who aren't even trained wrestling legends like Greg Valentine, Honky Tonk Man, The Patriot, Tito Santana etc. So no, that doesn't not at all mean you know what you are doing.
If you are trained and do work indys then do yourself a favor and stop being a mark for yourself.
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Post by taihyll on Jul 11, 2007 2:59:17 GMT -5
To be honest. i am doing backyard because it is fun. You dont have people bossing you around as much and the peopel around you respect what you do alot more. Why alot of fully trained BYWers NEVER have desire to go pro is because of that. Personally I think its weird to never aspire to go pro But some absolutly amazing people like Anarchy Andy and Yakuza J never go pro because of no desire to get into the business. The wrestling world is a dirty terrible thing with lots of drama and BS.
However I do eventually want to. The guys at FXE(TNA's little developmental area) have ZERO problem with students that backyard with each other. Infact its more training so its a good thing. I only do BYW stuff with people that i train with o have had full training or are in the process. i dont deal with those yardtard losers. No one will ever "get" BYWers i suppose but thats fine. I have maybe a year 1/2 more of this and I will stop when i start getting some big bookings. I can make a very LONG list of big names in wrestling who did backyard. Its not that big of deal, especially since my style is more or less practice shows.
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Post by Blade on Jul 11, 2007 3:02:02 GMT -5
Damn calm down, its just a music video. If people had problems, oh well. If people didn't have problems, good. I also hate it when BYW's think they're the greatest and smartest people because they wrestle in their backyard, do flips that they couldn't even do in a real wrestling ring and make MV's of their matches which can easily be edited. Get trained before you guys kill yourself. I just had to get that out because people from the BYW board come here and act like they're god's gift to the world. 1 I own a ring 2 i use vegas and After Effects to do my videos, Lee ANdrews, the guy who made this, also BYW's so get off your high horse and dont act like you didnt enjoy this. 3 Most BYWers these days or at least "the inner circle" have been trained, that old stupid crap went out in 2000 4 Considering I work indies and am wrestling someone from WWE next week, I owuld say I do know a thing or two of what i am doing. 5 If BYWers were so stupid how come non of us ever have problems dling videos? 1. Congrats. You own a ring. 2. I'm not referring to Lee Andrews, he wasn't the one coming off as a jerk to other members. BTW, I enjoyed this video a lot and last time I check this was a ROH video not a BYW video. 3. If your trained, why the hell are you backyard wrestling? I know I wouldn't be. 4. Once again, congrats. Professional wrestlers know what their doing but they still get hurt. You guys make it as if you know what your doing, you can't get hurt. I can't wait to hear who that former WWE wrestler is. 5. I've never said you guys were stupid. Too many chair shots to the head? I said and I know at least 90% of you guys act like your gods gift to this world because you either own a ring or trampoline and make MV's of your matches. FYI, SSP's, Moonsaults, 630's, 450's, etc are a lot easier to do on a trampoline then a ring. Oh, about the videos. Some people may not have as much knowledge with a PC then you do. Your just taking away from Lee Andrews replies by acting like a jerk and insulting people because they can't watch the video.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jul 11, 2007 3:07:10 GMT -5
To be honest. i am doing backyard because it is fun. You dont have people bossing you around as much and the peopel around you respect what you do alot more. Why alot of fully trained BYWers NEVER have desire to go pro is because of that. Personally I think its weird to never aspire to go pro But some absolutly amazing people like Anarchy Andy and Yakuza J never go pro because of no desire to get into the business. The wrestling world is a dirty terrible thing with lots of drama and BS. However I do eventually want to. The guys at FXE(TNA's little developmental area) have ZERO problem with students that backyard with each other. Infact its more training so its a good thing. I only do BYW stuff with people that i train with o have had full training or are in the process. i dont deal with those yardtard losers. No one will ever "get" BYWers i suppose but thats fine. I have maybe a year 1/2 more of this and I will stop when i start getting some big bookings. I can make a very LONG list of big names in wrestling who did backyard. Its not that big of deal, especially since my style is more or less practice shows. Thats fine. I use to backyard myself and still would if I had something to use. I wouldn't go pro because it's not a business I truely want to get into. I don't want my life revolving around flying here and there or even working for free and losing money. I'd rather just wrestle with a bunch of friends but I think if you get trained that should be your key to stop backyarding but you said you wrestle with already trained people so thats not to bad but people do look down on it. Recently a few wrestlers around here that work for JAPW just did a fun show in one of their backyards for memorial day just to have fun and many people gave them **** about it. Personally I think it's cool they would put on a show with their familys it's not like they were wrestling untrained wrestlers. However all I'm saying is even if you aren't when you mention moves being stolen(even if you're kidding) and then follow it up with he did it much more crisp or say that you are wrestling a former WWE star on a message board it makes you look like a mark because wrestling a former WWE guy these days really don't mean jack. A promotor will throw anyone in there to do the job. You just come off as a mark for yourself when you mention a bunch of backyard stuff on a message board and then mention you're trained. Anyway I'm gonna try not to take away from this guys work. I watched the video earlier and it was very good. The real heel just needs to stop being a jerk and coming off looking like a mark for himself.
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Post by taihyll on Jul 11, 2007 3:08:32 GMT -5
Lee Andrews is my nugga. He doesnt mind. i can popst some of my BYW stuff and tell me they are poorly edited. Just because this was ROH doesnt take away from the FACT that he made it and he makes BYW vids just s good if not better. i stated why i am in the yard. My "fed" is trained or training. Im still a student but get a nice booking once in awhile. FYI i have done ALL of the above flips in a ring? Must i really tape myself doing them and upload them? Please dont make me waste my time, i will if i have to though.
No kidding you can get hurt, im not saying you cant. Im saying that we(as in the people I know0 arent idiots with no training like most of the rejects all over youtube nd those 'best of' dvds. The pro i am wrestling was one of the people who got cut in the recent spring cleaning.
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Post by Blade on Jul 11, 2007 3:12:54 GMT -5
Lee Andrews is my nugga. He doesnt mind. i can popst some of my BYW stuff and tell me they are poorly edited. Just because this was ROH doesnt take away from the FACT that he made it and he makes BYW vids just s good if not better. i stated why i am in the yard. My "fed" is trained or training. Im still a student but get a nice booking once in awhile. FYI i have done ALL of the above flips in a ring? Must i really tape myself doing them and upload them? Please dont make me waste my time, i will if i have to though. No kidding you can get hurt, im not saying you cant. Im saying that we(as in the people I know0 arent idiots with no training like most of the rejects all over youtube nd those 'best of' dvds. The pro i am wrestling was one of the people who got cut in the recent spring cleaning. As I said, maybe you can do those flips but a lot of backyard wrestlers think they are great because they can take a bump or do a flip on a trampoline. When I had my trampoline, I could 450 but in a ring I probably couldn't even come close to hitting one. I'm just saying that a bunch of "yardtards" come onto this board as well as the BYW board and act as if their the greatest wrestlers ever.
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Post by taihyll on Jul 11, 2007 3:13:52 GMT -5
To be honest. i am doing backyard because it is fun. You dont have people bossing you around as much and the peopel around you respect what you do alot more. Why alot of fully trained BYWers NEVER have desire to go pro is because of that. Personally I think its weird to never aspire to go pro But some absolutly amazing people like Anarchy Andy and Yakuza J never go pro because of no desire to get into the business. The wrestling world is a dirty terrible thing with lots of drama and BS. However I do eventually want to. The guys at FXE(TNA's little developmental area) have ZERO problem with students that backyard with each other. Infact its more training so its a good thing. I only do BYW stuff with people that i train with o have had full training or are in the process. i dont deal with those yardtard losers. No one will ever "get" BYWers i suppose but thats fine. I have maybe a year 1/2 more of this and I will stop when i start getting some big bookings. I can make a very LONG list of big names in wrestling who did backyard. Its not that big of deal, especially since my style is more or less practice shows. Thats fine. I use to backyard myself and still would if I had something to use. I wouldn't go pro because it's not a business I truely want to get into. I don't want my life revolving around flying here and there or even working for free and losing money. I'd rather just wrestle with a bunch of friends but I think if you get trained that should be your key to stop backyarding but you said you wrestle with already trained people so thats not to bad but people do look down on it. Recently a few wrestlers around here that work for JAPW just did a fun show in one of their backyards for memorial day just to have fun and many people gave them **** about it. Personally I think it's cool they would put on a show with their familys it's not like they were wrestling untrained wrestlers. However all I'm saying is even if you aren't when you mention moves being stolen(even if you're kidding) and then follow it up with he did it much more crisp or say that you are wrestling a former WWE star on a message board it makes you look like a mark because wrestling a former WWE guy these days really don't mean jack. A promotor will throw anyone in there to do the job. You just come off as a mark for yourself when you mention a bunch of backyard stuff on a message board and then mention you're trained. Well i am seriously sorry if i came off as a douchey mark for myself. At least you understand what i am saying. Its just everyone says BYW is bad, etc. It gets old. Our BYW shows are rather low key. I have so many friends i met in BYW and tahts why its hrd to stop, i feel like I am turning my back on people by just leaving them but eventually i will go pro once I build up the courage to part with so many awesome people. I do mention alot of stuff because alot of people have questions about rrandom stuff and i just like to fill them in. Like when someone asks something random like "i noticed suplexes are always on the left side, why is that" i will follow up with an answer TRYING to be helpful, but i think I am going to stop that now just because.
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Post by taihyll on Jul 11, 2007 3:15:31 GMT -5
Lee Andrews is my nugga. He doesnt mind. i can popst some of my BYW stuff and tell me they are poorly edited. Just because this was ROH doesnt take away from the FACT that he made it and he makes BYW vids just s good if not better. i stated why i am in the yard. My "fed" is trained or training. Im still a student but get a nice booking once in awhile. FYI i have done ALL of the above flips in a ring? Must i really tape myself doing them and upload them? Please dont make me waste my time, i will if i have to though. No kidding you can get hurt, im not saying you cant. Im saying that we(as in the people I know0 arent idiots with no training like most of the rejects all over youtube nd those 'best of' dvds. The pro i am wrestling was one of the people who got cut in the recent spring cleaning. As I said, maybe you can do those flips but a lot of backyard wrestlers think they are great because they can take a bump or do a flip on a trampoline. When I had my trampoline, I could 450 but in a ring I probably couldn't even come close to hitting one. I'm just saying that a bunch of "yardtards" come onto this board as well as the BYW board and act as if their the greatest wrestlers ever. Tramp wrestlers are the worst. I kinda get where you guys are coming from now, so its cool. i was just lettingyou know my end of the deal.
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Post by Deano on Jul 11, 2007 4:34:56 GMT -5
345490820 DEGREE FLIPS!!!!
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Post by leeandrews on Jul 11, 2007 12:06:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies on the VIDEO. As for bashing BYWers.. and BYW as a whole.. its a unfair claim, most of the people judging it dont know anything about it today.. Today its more or less smaller indy shows.. and having fun.. Not hardcore weapon swingings every match....(And also people comparing tramp wrestling to ring wrestling is horrible.. Tramping is a bad road.. of nothing.. I was on it years ago....) And I have recived training, and am currently training at NWA Wildsisde (WWA4) and then you ask the question "If your trained, or training why dont you just do pro and forget about byw" Cause pro isnt about fun, its about bull **** that goes on in the back... and drama everywhere.. you guys will learn that if you ever decide to go pro... And you all bash BYW like nothing good comes of it.... Chris Hero? Mdogg20? Sonjay Dutt? JC Bailey? Josh Prohibition? Christan Faith? Jay Lethal? Thats just to name a FEW of pros that at one time BYWed. All and all I think eveyone needs to take a step back and just enjoy the here and now, BYW can be good to. and Fun... people just need to loose there egos, and board athics and just be cool and enjoy whats put out, pro or not. Thanks again! Lee
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Post by Deano on Jul 11, 2007 12:22:58 GMT -5
And you all bash BYW like nothing good comes of it.... Chris Hero? Mdogg20? Sonjay Dutt? JC Bailey? Josh Prohibition? Christan Faith? Jay Lethal? Thats just to name a FEW of pros that at one time BYWed. You forgot Bryan Danielson. He was a yardtard once too. The reason BYWs piss me off is because whenever I watch a backyard match, all it ever seems to be is OMG FLIPS. I mean, great, you can do a 3469420 degree flip, but I don't give a damn if you don't show any character development, any charisma and any substance. Too many BYWers that I've seen post mistake the amount of flips you do for talent. Just because someone can land a 450, it does not mean you're a good wrestler whatsoever. Thats what I wish more BYWers would understand. That's not addressed to anyone here, just the general view I have on BYWers from things I've seen all over the net.
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Post by leeandrews on Jul 11, 2007 12:28:17 GMT -5
And you all bash BYW like nothing good comes of it.... Chris Hero? Mdogg20? Sonjay Dutt? JC Bailey? Josh Prohibition? Christan Faith? Jay Lethal? Thats just to name a FEW of pros that at one time BYWed. You forgot Bryan Danielson. He was a yardtard once too. The reason BYWs piss me off is because whenever I watch a backyard match, all it ever seems to be is OMG FLIPS. I mean, great, you can do a 3469420 degree flip, but I don't give a damn if you don't show any character development, any charisma and any substance. Too many BYWers that I've seen post mistake the amount of flips you do for talent. Just because someone can land a 450, it does not mean you're a good wrestler whatsoever. Thats what I wish more BYWers would understand. That's not addressed to anyone here, just the general view I have on BYWers from things I've seen all over the net. I know i said "to name a few" I know alot of the ones i named on a personal level...being why i named them... Any way i completly get where your coming from, But then again sometimes you have to step aside and even applaud the guy doing the crazy flips...For example The Chad he has amazing athletics and acrobatics.. I respect the things he can do.. a Running 630? christ sake i have to applaud that. (And NO not on a tramp..on the ground) Next BYW is just practice, in my eyes.. and should be in others who dream of pro... Dont expect charisma, character development from every BYWer... although me and The Chad have recived pro trainings and know some things.. it doesnt mean every BYWer does. And i will have to agree certain BYWers do think "Im good cause i can flip" or "Im good case i can take a crazy bump" When in reality those are just small peices of wrestling..not even enough to qualify the person as decent. In the close BYW is practice and fun, Love it or hate it...Respect it please. Thanks again for allll the replies to my video i really appreacte it. Lee
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Post by Deano on Jul 11, 2007 14:40:01 GMT -5
And i will have to agree certain BYWers do think "Im good cause i can flip" or "Im good case i can take a crazy bump" Yep, and that's the thing that really gives me a negative view of BYWers.
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Post by Deano on Jul 11, 2007 14:42:22 GMT -5
Oh, and about the video...
Really cool MV, BRILLIANT music choice (but that could be because I'm a mark for IF), and you picked a match with alot of action which is good. I see too many MVs where the match is slow, boring and just doesnt make a good video - this one, with fast paced action, is really good.
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Post by leeandrews on Jul 11, 2007 15:32:04 GMT -5
Thanks buddy
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