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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 6, 2008 19:56:20 GMT -5
Must be enough because Joe or Homicide haven't left yet. You can't breach a legal contract by leaving early. You must wait until the deal is over. Low Ki doesn't seem to be having any problems.
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Post by heelgoldberg on Jan 6, 2008 21:13:06 GMT -5
You can't breach a legal contract by leaving early. You must wait until the deal is over. Low Ki doesn't seem to be having any problems. Same with Ron Killings last month. Word is that there's a very good chance he'll be signing with WWE soon.
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Post by HHH316 on Jan 6, 2008 21:40:36 GMT -5
Samoa Joe recently said in his myspace blog that as you advance your career the wrestling business becomes less about the wrestling and more about the business. If Samoa Joe can understand this I don't know why the ROHBots can't. Its because they are just fans, & have no first hand knowledge of what goes on behind the scenes. Their source is the internet & the people they stand in line with before the doors open at shows.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jan 6, 2008 22:16:58 GMT -5
Ki hasn't even left the company yet. He's still part of the roster.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 6, 2008 22:21:11 GMT -5
Ki hasn't even left the company yet. He's still part of the roster. I heard he was done with TNA starting tonight. I'm pretty sure he's working the PWG show tonight so it would appear that he is in fact done with TNA or on his way out. Ki and Killings left and seem to have no problem. Joe & Homicide could of done the same but they choose not to, in fact Joe in apologized for what he had said the night before so it isn't hating TNA too much as he had his chance to get released right there but didn't take it. I can accept the fact that Samoa Joe & Homicide have done all they could do in ROH and it's time for both Joe, Homicide & ROH to move on unlike some other ROH fans who are selfish and don't think about the wrestlers.
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Post by therealjswo on Jan 7, 2008 0:13:13 GMT -5
Funny because I could careless about Samoa Joe in JAPW. He came back had a great match with Low Ki and that's all I wanted to see of him in JAPW. Homicide I'd like to have around as long as possible but JAPW has went without him before and they still had the same draw. However, little do you know, JAPW hardly even runs against ROH so it wouldn't effect JAPW as much as you would like to think. BTW you're obsession with JAPW, it's a very sick one. Oh yes I'm very obsessed with JAPW, you got me. I guess I'll have to run and tell Gabe about it. Not as much as you'd think. The only reason Undisputed Complainer is surprise surprise complaining about their ROH careers being over is because when they go back that means a lot less of them in JAPW. Must be enough because Joe or Homicide haven't left yet. Contracts are contracts. The deal where TNA offered releases to everyone with no conditions isn't true, it was only offered to certain talents. Joe's deal officially expires at the end of 2008, Homicide's is around then as well if not a month later(January 2009). Joe has an opt out that would cost him a lot of money in March, hence his myspace blog about the business. I'm pretty sure you have no legal experience whatsoever so you probably aren't to informed on this type of subject.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 7, 2008 0:20:25 GMT -5
So Samoa Joe and Homicide each have a year left and you really think they're gonna leave? Lol, as I said, if you believe that then you don't know wrestling as much as you think you do. I can name countless guys who have said they aren't gonna resign with WWE and TNA up until their contract is ready to run out and they resign.
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Post by therealjswo on Jan 7, 2008 16:29:17 GMT -5
So Samoa Joe and Homicide each have a year left and you really think they're gonna leave? Lol, as I said, if you believe that then you don't know wrestling as much as you think you do. I can name countless guys who have said they aren't gonna resign with WWE and TNA up until their contract is ready to run out and they resign. Things change a lot in pro wrestling, unfortunatly for you, it is going to happen.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 7, 2008 16:50:45 GMT -5
So Samoa Joe and Homicide each have a year left and you really think they're gonna leave? Lol, as I said, if you believe that then you don't know wrestling as much as you think you do. I can name countless guys who have said they aren't gonna resign with WWE and TNA up until their contract is ready to run out and they resign. Things change a lot in pro wrestling, unfortunatly for you, it is going to happen. Keep believing that. It ain't happening.
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Post by therealjswo on Jan 7, 2008 18:19:54 GMT -5
Things change a lot in pro wrestling, unfortunatly for you, it is going to happen. Keep believing that. It ain't happening. Let's all believe someone who's biggest claim to fame is being brought into the ring with Teddy Hart as compared to someone with actual inside information and connections.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 7, 2008 20:28:00 GMT -5
Keep believing that. It ain't happening. Let's all believe someone who's biggest claim to fame is being brought into the ring with Teddy Hart as compared to someone with actual inside information and connections. Tell you what JSWO, are you going to the Feb. 23rd ROH show? Because I'd love to see you say the stuff you say online to my face. Yeah I know, you wouldn't do it.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jan 7, 2008 23:11:59 GMT -5
Ki hasn't even left the company yet. He's still part of the roster. I heard he was done with TNA starting tonight. I'm pretty sure he's working the PWG show tonight so it would appear that he is in fact done with TNA or on his way out. Ki and Killings left and seem to have no problem. Joe & Homicide could of done the same but they choose not to, in fact Joe in apologized for what he had said the night before so it isn't hating TNA too much as he had his chance to get released right there but didn't take it. I can accept the fact that Samoa Joe & Homicide have done all they could do in ROH and it's time for both Joe, Homicide & ROH to move on unlike some other ROH fans who are selfish and don't think about the wrestlers. TNA already allows their talent to be on the PWG shows, so that would prove nothing.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 7, 2008 23:30:11 GMT -5
I heard he was done with TNA starting tonight. I'm pretty sure he's working the PWG show tonight so it would appear that he is in fact done with TNA or on his way out. Ki and Killings left and seem to have no problem. Joe & Homicide could of done the same but they choose not to, in fact Joe in apologized for what he had said the night before so it isn't hating TNA too much as he had his chance to get released right there but didn't take it. I can accept the fact that Samoa Joe & Homicide have done all they could do in ROH and it's time for both Joe, Homicide & ROH to move on unlike some other ROH fans who are selfish and don't think about the wrestlers. TNA already allows their talent to be on the PWG shows, so that would prove nothing. No they do not. Shows how very little you know. Why do you think the Samoa Joe, Motor City Machine Guns, Kazarian & Ki(up until now) were pulled from all PWG shows.?
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Post by thestartofnewera on Jan 7, 2008 23:48:05 GMT -5
The Real JSWO how would you know that JAPW is so bad if you never been to one of the shows. My good friend Undisputed Kid is speaking the truth. ROH shows are good but not better than JAPW. I mean who want to see the same old crapat a ROH show un like JAPW we get to see all the great action. I mean dont talk crapabout JAPW if you dont even know what the hell is going on. I bet you like Jay Lethal and Homicide right. Well... guess what where do you think Jay Lethal and Homicide came from JAPW. If I can recall I dont think anyone big accept Somoa Joe actually made it big time like they did so yeah it's about time you shut up or put up cause you just got served
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 7, 2008 23:52:33 GMT -5
Chris JSWO has proven time and time again that he doesn't have the slightest clue what is actually going on JAPW. He just rambles on and on because he got banned from their message board a few years ago and he's still bitter about it, thus he takes it out on the product. I find it funny that JSWO tells me because I only attend ROH shows in NJ(which isn't even true) that I can't judge the product even though I have countless upon countless DVD's but it's ok for him to judge JAPW without going to a live show. Gotta love the irony!
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Post by therealjswo on Jan 7, 2008 23:59:30 GMT -5
The Real JSWO how would you know that JAPW is so bad if you never been to one of the shows. My good friend Undisputed Kid is speaking the truth. ROH shows are good but not better than JAPW. I mean who want to see the same old **** at a ROH show un like JAPW we get to see all the great action. I mean dont talk **** about JAPW if you dont even know what the hell is going on. I bet you like Jay Lethal and Homicide right. Well... guess what where do you think Jay Lethal and Homicide came from JAPW. If I can recall I dont think anyone big accept Somoa Joe actually made it big time like they did so yeah it's about time you shut up or put up cause you just got served That's cute. Who says I've said JAPW is so bad? It's really not. It's just not as good as it could be if they'd have a different booker. A promotion will never be as good as it could have been when they have a booker who books his friends and people who kiss his ass. If the ROH shows weren't as good as JAPW's, JAPW would be in ROH's spot, with PPV's, running outside of the state successfully, and having wrestlers with written contracts. ROH is a better all around promotion. For a local company JAPW is just fine, but they aren't where they were in 2000-2002 when they were doing original angles with unique talent, that's what ROH is doing now. I'm glad UK has one good friend, that's the start to improving his life and not allowing him to be so bitter and angry. That anger and jealousness are not good for his self-esteem. I know what is going on at JAPW, and for someone unbeknownst to me to come in and act like they know what I follow is quite laughable. I've been a JAPW follower and fan since 2000. I own close to 40 JAPW vhs tapes and dvds up to the 10th Anniversary debacle of a show. For the record I find the Black Machismo character to be quite histerical but I do find Jay Lethal to be a marginal wrestler with no real unique style to him. But yes, I am a Homicide fan and friend, how do you think I actually get JAPW dvds without attending shows?
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Post by thestartofnewera on Jan 8, 2008 0:00:01 GMT -5
Chris JSWO has proven time and time again that he doesn't have the slightest clue what is actually going on JAPW. He just rambles on and on because he got banned from their message board a few years ago and he's still bitter about it, thus he takes it out on the product. I find it funny that JSWO tells me because I only attend ROH shows in NJ(which isn't even true) that I can't judge the product even though I have countless upon countless DVD's but it's ok for him to judge JAPW without going to a live show. Gotta love the irony! I know you don't attend only ROH shows that come to New Jersey. We been to ROH shows at came to Philly,NYC,New Jersey, and Boston so he is a idiot that has no life that is on here looking for the attention. I am glad Frank banned this loser from the JAPW boards cause people like him are a disgrace to wrestling.
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Post by thestartofnewera on Jan 8, 2008 0:07:35 GMT -5
The Real JSWO how would you know that JAPW is so bad if you never been to one of the shows. My good friend Undisputed Kid is speaking the truth. ROH shows are good but not better than JAPW. I mean who want to see the same old **** at a ROH show un like JAPW we get to see all the great action. I mean dont talk **** about JAPW if you dont even know what the hell is going on. I bet you like Jay Lethal and Homicide right. Well... guess what where do you think Jay Lethal and Homicide came from JAPW. If I can recall I dont think anyone big accept Somoa Joe actually made it big time like they did so yeah it's about time you shut up or put up cause you just got served That's cute. Who says I've said JAPW is so bad? It's really not. It's just not as good as it could be if they'd have a different booker. A promotion will never be as good as it could have been when they have a booker who books his friends and people who kiss his ass. If the ROH shows weren't as good as JAPW's, JAPW would be in ROH's spot, with PPV's, running outside of the state successfully, and having wrestlers with written contracts. ROH is a better all around promotion. For a local company JAPW is just fine, but they aren't where they were in 2000-2002 when they were doing original angles with unique talent, that's what ROH is doing now. I'm glad UK has one good friend, that's the start to improving his life and not allowing him to be so bitter and angry. That anger and jealousness are not good for his self-esteem. I know what is going on at JAPW, and for someone unbeknownst to me to come in and act like they know what I follow is quite laughable. I've been a JAPW follower and fan since 2000. I own close to 40 JAPW vhs tapes and dvds up to the 10th Anniversary debacle of a show. For the record I find the Black Machismo character to be quite histerical but I do find Jay Lethal to be a marginal wrestler with no real unique style to him. But yes, I am a Homicide fan and friend, how do you think I actually get JAPW dvds without attending shows? Dude you need to back the F up ok. Undisputed Kid has a lot of friends alright. It is about time you leave him alone or you will get dealt with. You been harassing him for few years now. Why don't you be a man and do all your talking in person instead of hiding behind a keyobard acting so tough. Your a loser dude if you cont.. I will talk to Cary owner of ROH and get you banned from the shows ok. Leave Undisputed Kid alone he is just speaking his opinion so there is no need to attack him.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 8, 2008 0:09:06 GMT -5
ROH is in the spot they are now because they run more shows and have money because of Cary Silkin. JAPW would be in the same place if they ran in other places but they don't because their lifes aren't wrestling. They have family and jobs. It has nothing to do with what is better. How many times do you have to be told this before it finally sinks in?
I have plenty of good friends but I guess a guy who only has friends from other states that he attends ROH shows with and stands in line with wouldn't understand that.
Fact is, you don't attend live shows. You know much like I only attend shows in one state which again isn't true. As I also mentioned, in the past you have made very little sense when it comes to knowing what is going on story line wise. Either you don't follow the product like you say you do, or you just don't pay enough attention.
I bet that makes you feel special considering you mention it so often.
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Post by therealjswo on Jan 8, 2008 0:25:08 GMT -5
Dude you need to back the F up ok. Undisputed Kid has a lot of friends alright. It is about time you leave him alone or you will get dealt with. You been harassing him for few years now. Why don't you be a man and do all your talking in person instead of hiding behind a keyobard acting so tough. Your a loser dude if you cont.. I will talk to Cary owner of ROH and get you banned from the shows ok. Leave Undisputed Kid alone he is just speaking his opinion so there is no need to attack him. Ok, I guess UK now has a socko account. That's pretty funny too. I'm sure you'll do what you have to do to get me banned from ROH shows. LOL. If it's ok for him to speak his opinion, then it is equally ok for me to speak mine. That's how it works in America.
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