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Post by zombiesx on Jan 19, 2008 19:17:21 GMT -5
That was sweet, thanks for sharing.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 19, 2008 19:22:19 GMT -5
Huh? You say it doesnt apply to Hero....though you just ran him down. I said it doesn't apply to hero. And its obvious why it doesnt. He can work a crowd. With his cheesy face, taunts, and outfit. So their is no need for him to take a stiff shot.... Dont watch much of Hero in IWA:MS, CZW and even Chikara, do you?
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Post by gin on Jan 19, 2008 19:27:54 GMT -5
I said it doesn't apply to hero. And its obvious why it doesnt. He can work a crowd. With his cheesy face, taunts, and outfit. So their is no need for him to take a stiff shot.... Dont watch much of Hero in IWA:MS, CZW and even Chikara, do you? NO. I dont like watching crappy indy hardcore wrestling. Watching two people try to act out a live horror movie is not entertaining. If i want to see real fighting (STIFF SHOTS) I would watch Kick boxing or UFC And Chikara? WTF when has Chris hero took a stiff shot like the one in that video?
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 19, 2008 19:32:29 GMT -5
Dont watch much of Hero in IWA:MS, CZW and even Chikara, do you? NO. I dont like watching crappy indy hardcore wrestling. Watching two people try to act out a live horror movie is not entertaining. If i want to see real fighting (STIFF SHOTS) I would watch Kick boxing or UFC And Chikara? WTF when has Chris hero took a stiff shot like the one in that video? Where to begin? See Hero vs. Cannon 2004 IWA:MS See Hero vs. Kingston CZW Down With The Sickness II Day Show See Hero vs. Kingston Chikara Negative Balance. All 3 will show some sick examples of some seriously stiff stuff. I'm not saying its Brodie Lee stiff......but its damn stiff. There are many more, but thats a few for you to research.
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Post by gin on Jan 19, 2008 19:36:15 GMT -5
NO. I dont like watching crappy indy hardcore wrestling. Watching two people try to act out a live horror movie is not entertaining. If i want to see real fighting (STIFF SHOTS) I would watch Kick boxing or UFC And Chikara? WTF when has Chris hero took a stiff shot like the one in that video? Where to begin? See Hero vs. Cannon 2004 IWA:MS See Hero vs. Kingston CZW Down With The Sickness II Day Show See Hero vs. Kingston Chikara Negative Balance. All 3 will show some sick examples of some seriously stiff stuff. I'm not saying its Brodie Lee stiff......but its damn stiff. There are many more, but thats a few for you to research. Like i said. i dont watch IWA or CZW crappy hardcore wrestling. Those are not stiff shoot shots. Sorry.... More like JBL STIFF.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 19, 2008 19:39:36 GMT -5
Where to begin? See Hero vs. Cannon 2004 IWA:MS See Hero vs. Kingston CZW Down With The Sickness II Day Show See Hero vs. Kingston Chikara Negative Balance. All 3 will show some sick examples of some seriously stiff stuff. I'm not saying its Brodie Lee stiff......but its damn stiff. There are many more, but thats a few for you to research. Like i said. i dont watch IWA or CZW crappy hardcore wrestling. Those are not stiff shoot shots. Sorry.... More like JBL STIFF. Not all of IWA and CZW is crappy hardcore wrestling. They have strong style, scientific, lucha, etc. I will give you that CZW over the past year has been full of crap. But its not always been that way. And IWA:MS has never been that way.
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Post by gin on Jan 19, 2008 19:41:46 GMT -5
Like i said. i dont watch IWA or CZW crappy hardcore wrestling. Those are not stiff shoot shots. Sorry.... More like JBL STIFF. Not all of IWA and CZW is crappy hardcore wrestling. They have strong style, scientific, lucha, etc. I will give you that CZW over the past year has been full of crap. But its not always been that way. And IWA:MS has never been that way. yeah eddie and rey both wrestled at IWA. That still doesn't make them less crappy. And only Dumb Wrestlers are willing to do shoot fight matches. Because that is the only way they can get over. In a cheap way dumb way.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 19, 2008 19:45:11 GMT -5
Not all of IWA and CZW is crappy hardcore wrestling. They have strong style, scientific, lucha, etc. I will give you that CZW over the past year has been full of crap. But its not always been that way. And IWA:MS has never been that way. yeah eddie and rey both wrestled at IWA. That still doesn't make them less crappy. And only Dumb Wrestlers are willing to do shoot fight matches. Because that is the only way they can get over. In a cheap way dumb way. Eddie and Rey had some great matches in IWA. No one is doing shoot fight matches. Strong style and shoot are two different things. Strong style is still controlled by many factors. Its not cheap. If you dont like good wrestling that indys have to offer.....head back to the WWE board. You've come to the wrong board. By your absurd sig of Punk you have, I can tell you dont know much about indy wrestling.
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Post by gin on Jan 19, 2008 19:55:14 GMT -5
yeah eddie and rey both wrestled at IWA. That still doesn't make them less crappy. And only Dumb Wrestlers are willing to do shoot fight matches. Because that is the only way they can get over. In a cheap way dumb way. Eddie and Rey had some great matches in IWA. No one is doing shoot fight matches. Strong style and shoot are two different things. Strong style is still controlled by many factors. Its not cheap. If you dont like good wrestling that indys have to offer.....head back to the WWE board. You've come to the wrong board. By your absurd sig of Punk you have, I can tell you dont know much about indy wrestling. Sorry but I don't have to like everything Indy offers.... Thats probably why i dont watch everything... Strong style? lol. Kenta is stiff, but hes a good wrestler... Unlike some fat guy who does sloppy moves and some hard kicks or punches. Their is a difference. Even if Kenta wasn't stiff he would still be a good wrestler. pro wrestling noah = Stiff Shoot matches. Very cheap in the eyes of a WWE wrestler. Anyone can hit that hard. Cheap way to get over.. But I do enjoy some of the matches not all.
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Post by CMD on Jan 19, 2008 21:01:36 GMT -5
Rey and Eddy aren't the only great guys to make their way through IWA-MS. The last time their focus was really more on deathmatch stuff was probably in the 90s. It's always present, but they really switched their focus to more technical stuff at the turn of the new millenium with the creation of the Sweet Science 16, later the TPI. Greats like CM Punk and Chris Hero first made their name in IWA-MS, as wells as good wrestlers like Danny Daniels, Matt Sydal, Josh Abercrombie, Nate Webb, Jimmy Jacobs, Arik Cannon, Darin Corbin, Trik Davis (Trik I feel is truely underappreciated, I really like him) and Chuck Taylor. You are missing out on IWA-MS. They offer almost everything, as a t-shirt of theirs says, "We wrestle, we brawl, we do it all."
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 19, 2008 22:05:50 GMT -5
Rey and Eddy aren't the only great guys to make their way through IWA-MS. The last time their focus was really more on deathmatch stuff was probably in the 90s. It's always present, but they really switched their focus to more technical stuff at the turn of the new millenium with the creation of the Sweet Science 16, later the TPI. Greats like CM Punk and Chris Hero first made their name in IWA-MS, as wells as good wrestlers like Danny Daniels, Matt Sydal, Josh Abercrombie, Nate Webb, Jimmy Jacobs, Arik Cannon, Darin Corbin, Trik Davis (Trik I feel is truely underappreciated, I really like him) and Chuck Taylor. You are missing out on IWA-MS. They offer almost everything, as a t-shirt of theirs says, "We wrestle, we brawl, we do it all." -CMD He thinks NOAH is cheap. Leave him be.
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Post by jake_317 on Jan 20, 2008 9:23:58 GMT -5
Dude, you're arguement is so stereotypical. I've heard this a million times. Same as deathmatch wrestlers, they do deathmatches, because they cannot wrestle. Same arguement you are applying to 'stiff' wrestlers. and that's a pretty broad generalization. so i'll let you talk yourself into a hole. your opinion is so absurd, i really don't know what to say. besides, enjoy your monday night RAW. and what the hell is up with the ing digusting signatures? is that your idea of funny? make every wrestler you don't like, out to be gay? really mature, just like your wrestling opinions.
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Post by AP on Jan 20, 2008 14:43:06 GMT -5
You guys suck.
You ruined my thread about the greatness of the BIG BOOT.
Who cares about Hero, CZW, strong style , all that other shit.
THIS IS ABOUT A SWEET BIG BOOT.
Take your crap and your stupid "ENJOY YOUR MONDAY NIGHT RAW" comments elsewhere
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 20, 2008 17:56:57 GMT -5
You guys suck. You ruined my thread about the greatness of the BIG BOOT. Who cares about Hero, CZW, strong style , all that other ****. THIS IS ABOUT A SWEET BIG BOOT. Take your crap and your stupid "ENJOY YOUR MONDAY NIGHT RAW" comments elsewhere The Big Boot=Stiff=Strong Style=Chris Hero.
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Post by gin on Jan 20, 2008 18:37:06 GMT -5
You guys suck. You ruined my thread about the greatness of the BIG BOOT. Who cares about Hero, CZW, strong style , all that other ****. THIS IS ABOUT A SWEET BIG BOOT. Take your crap and your stupid "ENJOY YOUR MONDAY NIGHT RAW" comments elsewhere The Big Boot=Stiff=Strong Style=Chris Hero. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 20, 2008 18:38:34 GMT -5
The Big Boot=Stiff=Strong Style=Chris Hero. NOT EVEN CLOSE. CM Punk=godly.....but I am sure you will argue that.
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Post by gin on Jan 20, 2008 19:50:44 GMT -5
CM Punk=godly.....but I am sure you will argue that. BAhaHAaHAhHAHAhHAhaHAHaHAhAHhaaahAhAhahAHA
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Jan 20, 2008 22:24:17 GMT -5
/notices the guy is making fun of punk in his sig, not praising him.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 20, 2008 22:30:50 GMT -5
CM Punk=godly.....but I am sure you will argue that. BAhaHAaHAhHAHAhHAhaHAHaHAhAHhaaahAhAhahAHA Go have fun with Batista, Khali, HHH....guys that cant work.
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Post by gin on Jan 20, 2008 23:11:49 GMT -5
BAhaHAaHAhHAHAhHAhaHAHaHAhAHhaaahAhAhahAHA Go have fun with Batista, Khali, HHH....guys that cant work. WTF? when did i say I enjoy Batista and Khali? LOL. HHH is a good wrestler. He doesn't have to do a lot to get a crowds reaction. His execution of moves look smooth. And saying HHH can't work is by far the most outrages remark anyone can make. Unlike Punk he is a skinny backyard wrestler who is sloping all over the ring.
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