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Post by therealjswo on Jan 27, 2008 22:09:25 GMT -5
First off, nobody said they were going out of  ing business we are all saying that PPV hasn't went as good as hoped. With The Briscoes, Hero & Claudio being off the show as well ROH running in a bigger market like New York they can afford to fly in Tornado, Go & Ibushi. New York holds what 1200? With higher sitting prices and the fact that the DVD will sell sell ROH can afford to fly in guys for that show because of the lose of the Briscoes, Hero & Claudio. The problem with that is that the Briscoes, Hero, & Claudio aren't flyins and Ibushi is on the Chicago show which has all 4 of Briscoes, Claudio, & Hero, plus Shiozaki. On top of that the Manhattan Center is well over $10 thousand dollars to rent out. So this idea of budget cuts in talent is quite the line of bull shit. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 27, 2008 23:15:06 GMT -5
First off, nobody said they were going out of ing business we are all saying that PPV hasn't went as good as hoped. With The Briscoes, Hero & Claudio being off the show as well ROH running in a bigger market like New York they can afford to fly in Tornado, Go & Ibushi. New York holds what 1200? With higher sitting prices and the fact that the DVD will sell sell ROH can afford to fly in guys for that show because of the lose of the Briscoes, Hero & Claudio. The problem with that is that the Briscoes, Hero, & Claudio aren't flyins and Ibushi is on the Chicago show which has all 4 of Briscoes, Claudio, & Hero, plus Shiozaki. On top of that the Manhattan Center is well over $10 thousand dollars to rent out. So this idea of budget cuts in talent is quite the line of bull ****. Thats why a guy like BJ Whitmer wasn't at the last Boston and Edison shows right? Stop making it sound like you're in the business. You're nothing more than a fan who flys himself out to set up the ring and watch the show. Blade is in the business working for JAPW but you don't see him bragging about it. Gabe himself told you to stop talking out your ass on the ROH board. |
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Post by therealjswo on Jan 27, 2008 23:51:27 GMT -5
Thats why a guy like BJ Whitmer wasn't at the last Boston and Edison shows right? Stop making it sound like you're in the business. You're nothing more than a fan who flys himself out to set up the ring and watch the show. Blade is in the business working for JAPW but you don't see him bragging about it. Gabe himself told you to stop talking out your ass on the ROH board. ROH 1/11/08: Boston, MA ULTIMATE ENDURANCE: The Age of the Fall (Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black) retain the ROH World Tag Team titles.. The Vulture Squad (Jack Evans & Jigsaw) were eliminated in Phase #1 which was a 4-WAY Tag Scramble.. Hangman 3 (Brent Albright & B.J. Whitmer) were eliminated in Phase #2 which was a 3-WAY No-DQ Match.. The Briscoe Brothers (Mark & Jay Briscoe) were eliminated in Phase #3 which was a traditional Tag Team match. ROH 1/12/08: Edison, NJ TAG MATCH: HANGMAN 3 (B.J. Whitmer & Shane Hagadorn) defeated Bobby Fish & Eddie Edwards. Now who is talking out of their ass? Listen, I get it, you think you know what I do and how I operate. But really, you don't. You're clueless, you're angry, you're probably jealous. You entertain me though, delusionry and constant whining is always mildly amusing, but when it comes from you it is darn near priceless. By all means please continue the delusionry because I'll gladly knock it out of the park. |
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Post by HHH316 on Jan 28, 2008 0:01:52 GMT -5
I think that it is only in the way of the fans. Both had/have a cult-like following.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 28, 2008 0:10:35 GMT -5
Thats why a guy like BJ Whitmer wasn't at the last Boston and Edison shows right? Stop making it sound like you're in the business. You're nothing more than a fan who flys himself out to set up the ring and watch the show. Blade is in the business working for JAPW but you don't see him bragging about it. Gabe himself told you to stop talking out your ass on the ROH board. ROH 1/11/08: Boston, MA ULTIMATE ENDURANCE: The Age of the Fall (Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black) retain the ROH World Tag Team titles.. The Vulture Squad (Jack Evans & Jigsaw) were eliminated in Phase #1 which was a 4-WAY Tag Scramble.. Hangman 3 (Brent Albright & B.J. Whitmer) were eliminated in Phase #2 which was a 3-WAY No-DQ Match.. The Briscoe Brothers (Mark & Jay Briscoe) were eliminated in Phase #3 which was a traditional Tag Team match. ROH 1/12/08: Edison, NJ TAG MATCH: HANGMAN 3 (B.J. Whitmer & Shane Hagadorn) defeated Bobby Fish & Eddie Edwards. Now who is talking out of their ass? Listen, I get it, you think you know what I do and how I operate. But really, you don't. You're clueless, you're angry, you're probably jealous. You entertain me though, delusionry and constant whining is always mildly amusing, but when it comes from you it is darn near priceless. By all means please continue the delusionry because I'll gladly knock it out of the park. I forgot about that match as I was in the parking lot chilling with friends and none of us wanted to watch that match bore the **** out of us. What is there to be jealous of? That you set up the ring? Uh, so could I if I wanted to. JAPW is always looking for people to help them set up the ring, work the spotlight or whatever else. If I wanted to get in the business I'd go down to the ACE school over here and get trained but quite frankly I am happy just being a fan. I know people in the business who do the things you do and more. None of which brag as much as you do. Sorry JSWO if Meltzer heard it I'm taking his word for it not some bias fan who wants to be in the business. End Of |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 28, 2008 17:18:58 GMT -5
This was in the ROH newswire... January 28th: We are very pleased to announce that Kota Ibushi from the DDT promotion in Japan will come to ROH for a very special one week stay. Ibushi will wrestle on 4/11 in Boston, 4/12 in Edison, 4/18 in Detroit and 4/19 in Chicago. ROH officials were blown away when they saw Ibushi live at NOAH's 7/15 Budokan Hall event. Efforts were made since that time to bring Ibushi to ROH and now he will make a very special one week only appearance in April. Ibushi will face main event quality opponents on all four nights. His opponents will be announced in the upcoming weeks. Tickets for all four shows are on sale now. Yup, sure looks like Ibushi will be in NYC.  |
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Post by therealjswo on Jan 28, 2008 19:27:36 GMT -5
This was in the ROH newswire... January 28th: We are very pleased to announce that Kota Ibushi from the DDT promotion in Japan will come to ROH for a very special one week stay. Ibushi will wrestle on 4/11 in Boston, 4/12 in Edison, 4/18 in Detroit and 4/19 in Chicago. ROH officials were blown away when they saw Ibushi live at NOAH's 7/15 Budokan Hall event. Efforts were made since that time to bring Ibushi to ROH and now he will make a very special one week only appearance in April. Ibushi will face main event quality opponents on all four nights. His opponents will be announced in the upcoming weeks. Tickets for all four shows are on sale now. Yup, sure looks like Ibushi will be in NYC. Please oh please show me where I said he'd be in NYC. I did however state ROH was adding him, Shiozaki, and Tornado to their flyins. I forgot about that match as I was in the parking lot chilling with friends and none of us wanted to watch that match bore the **** out of us. Oh that's cute. I'm sure those "friends" all were bored with BJ Whitmer too. What is there to be jealous of? That you set up the ring? Uh, so could I if I wanted to. JAPW is always looking for people to help them set up the ring, work the spotlight or whatever else. If I wanted to get in the business I'd go down to the ACE school over here and get trained but quite frankly I am happy just being a fan. I know people in the business who do the things you do and more. None of which brag as much as you do. I go to shows to hang out with my friends who work for ROH and those who are just fans. I don't go to shows for the matches. If I'm around and they tell me I'm going to get paid, I'd gladly help out because it makes things easier for the students I'm buddies with. It isn't bragging if it's true. Sorry JSWO if Meltzer heard it I'm taking his word for it not some bias fan who wants to be in the business. End Of If I wanted to be in the business I'd already be there. Instead I'm doing what you should do and go to college to earn a degree. That way when I own a business or work for one, I'll actually be able to back up my claim of knowledge. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 28, 2008 19:40:14 GMT -5
When I mentioned that the Briscoes, Hero & Claudio wouldn't be on the NYC show and the fact that the Manhattan center could hold 1200 people you mentioned that if they cut back on fly ins Tornado, Go & Ibushi would be on the show. Yup.
Not so much Whitmer as much as Bobby Fish, Eddie Edwards & Shane Hagadorn but Whitmer wasn't helping matters.
It is bragging when you lie about "working" for the company but hey whatever floats your boat if it makes you feel better about yourself, go for it!
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Post by therealjswo on Jan 28, 2008 20:04:25 GMT -5
When I mentioned that the Briscoes, Hero & Claudio wouldn't be on the NYC show and the fact that the Manhattan center could hold 1200 people you mentioned that if they cut back on fly ins Tornado, Go & Ibushi would be on the show. Yup. That's more or less you being too stupid to understand simple English. Not so much Whitmer as much as Bobby Fish, Eddie Edwards & Shane Hagadorn but Whitmer wasn't helping matters. There's nothing wrong with Edwards or Fish. It is bragging when you lie about "working" for the company but hey whatever floats your boat if it makes you feel better about yourself, go for it! It's not bragging if it's true. I don't need to state anything to feel better about myself. But if being bitter and complaining on the net makes you get a small sparkle in the eye, then kudos to you for finding something good in your life. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 28, 2008 20:21:49 GMT -5
Edwards and Fish both suck. I'd expect you to be one of a few that care about them though.
As far as being bitter goes. Everyone knows nobody could be more bitter than you are. You still are very bitter towards JAPW and the fact that you got banned from their message board and it's something you show in the majority of your posts. Also taking down the ring once or twice and getting a few bucks for it isn't exactly what I'd consider as working for ROH. ROH is always asking for people to help take down the ring at shows but like I said, whatever makes you feel better!
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Jan 28, 2008 20:32:39 GMT -5
ECW was mainstream and made a lot of money which was lost because of poor financial choices by Paul Heyman.
ROH makes enough money to break even and pay the Wrestlers mostly due to DVD sales. ROH however is NOT mainstream because nobody knows about it that much outside the internet, I like ROH but its a glorified indy fed.
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Post by therealjswo on Jan 28, 2008 20:38:09 GMT -5
Edwards and Fish both suck. I'd expect you to be one of a few that care about them though. As far as being bitter goes. Everyone knows nobody could be more bitter than you are. You still are very bitter towards JAPW and the fact that you got banned from their message board and it's something you show in the majority of your posts. Also taking down the ring once or twice and getting a few bucks for it isn't exactly what I'd consider as working for ROH. ROH is always asking for people to help take down the ring at shows but like I said, whatever makes you feel better! I like Edwards because he's bigger and looks credible in the ring. Fish does a lot well but he's still very young and is always improving. I give guys credit for the effort and not looking like generic indy wrestler #4483(I'm looking at you Archadia). I applaud their efforts for their NOAH work and they continue to improve unlike others who seem content to work in one company and companies in which they associate with. Attention idiot, let me spell this out short and sweet for you, I have an account on the JAPW board. I'm not banned now or ever. Lastly, I've done a lot more for ROH then set up the ring a few times. Maybe you should do a little fact checking before thinking that's all I've done. |
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Post by sincityhero on Jan 30, 2008 13:56:47 GMT -5
Stop ARGUEING!
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Post by vpw2 on Jan 30, 2008 14:46:01 GMT -5
So, JSWO, what exactly HAVE you done for ROH to earn being paid? I think we're all pretty curious.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 30, 2008 16:13:07 GMT -5
Edwards and Fish both suck. I'd expect you to be one of a few that care about them though. As far as being bitter goes. Everyone knows nobody could be more bitter than you are. You still are very bitter towards JAPW and the fact that you got banned from their message board and it's something you show in the majority of your posts. Also taking down the ring once or twice and getting a few bucks for it isn't exactly what I'd consider as working for ROH. ROH is always asking for people to help take down the ring at shows but like I said, whatever makes you feel better! I like Edwards because he's bigger and looks credible in the ring. Fish does a lot well but he's still very young and is always improving. I give guys credit for the effort and not looking like generic indy wrestler #4483(I'm looking at you Archadia). I applaud their efforts for their NOAH work and they continue to improve unlike others who seem content to work in one company and companies in which they associate with. Attention idiot, let me spell this out short and sweet for you, I have an account on the JAPW board. I'm not banned now or ever. Lastly, I've done a lot more for ROH then set up the ring a few times. Maybe you should do a little fact checking before thinking that's all I've done. So look means more than anything to you? I wouldn't say that Bobby Fish and Eddie Edwards have the "look" either. Nor do they have the names to be successful. Bobby Fish? Come on, that's a horrible name and Eddie Edwards sounds like some serial killer. Low Ki and B-Boy have both put over Archadia's talent. Who has put over Fish and Edwards? Gabe? Gabe also has a hard on for Daniel Puder. Oh right, your right you do have an account on the JAPW board even though you tried to pass it off as not being you before Cannon put you in your place. Right, I remember now... Oh yeah? What else do you do? Set up the chairs? Maybe set up the barricades? |
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Post by James Hetfield on Jan 30, 2008 16:34:20 GMT -5
That statement is awesome. "Bobby Fish? Come on, that's a horrible name". hahahaha.
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Post by The Funniest Guy in Pants on Jan 30, 2008 21:44:17 GMT -5
Maybe in terms of wrestling. Isn't that all that matters? |
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Post by CBT on Jan 30, 2008 23:09:39 GMT -5
ECW was mainstream and made a lot of money which was lost because of poor financial choices by Paul Heyman. ROH makes enough money to break even and pay the Wrestlers mostly due to DVD sales. ROH however is NOT mainstream because nobody knows about it that much outside the internet, I like ROH but its a glorified indy fed. Pretty much sums it up. If I mention ROH to an old or new fan, it would go on deaf ears unless I make constant mention of it. Still, it's gonna mean more to me than it would ever mean to a casual or on the fence, fan. Fact is, ROH could be the breeding ground for WWE... but that would never equate recognition or respect. In a nut shell, ROH is great but the internet following is very much a backbone of the company. |
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Post by sincityhero on Jan 31, 2008 0:08:31 GMT -5
Gabe has to be the ugliest person i've ever seen lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2008 0:28:27 GMT -5
Looks like Gabe learned alot of the same business practices as Paul E when he was making programs and serving him coffee.
How the hell do you expect to pull a profit when you are booking 35 wrestlers per show and flying in a ton of those guys to boot.
Signing contracts and medical coverage are great for the wrestlers and is great for moral, but with no PPV's, contracts and medical will go bye bye.
I give Cary credit for trying to be an honorable business man, no pun intended, but Gabe is running ROH into the ground with overspending and overbooking. Does ROH really need a zillion 3 man factions to keep things interesting.
Well it was reported by Meltzer and it was now reported by Mike Johnson on PWInsider, although his story was such a fluff piece that we all could read right through, can a certain fan that flies himself out to ROH to set up chairs and the ring and hang out with the boys at the hotel , can he DENY it ANYMORE !
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