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Post by [MJH] on Mar 25, 2008 8:37:51 GMT -5
Just explain to them that any logical person can see that alot of moves can't be completely worked and alot will hurt, say how the matches are planned to add to the entertainment factor rather than just having two guys basically stalemate each other for hours but the moves are mainly real. Also explain to them how wrestling is like a mix of a television drama and boxing, the fighting is real but the hatred and backstage stuf is written. Basically just explain the way wrestling works as most people just think every part is fake which isn't true.
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Post by Flava Dave on Mar 25, 2008 8:44:52 GMT -5
Get a pic of Jack Evans' broken face.
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Post by AndyPeck13 on Mar 25, 2008 12:33:12 GMT -5
once again, thanks for all your suggestions
so far here is how my speech is being outlined
-Wrestling Rings -Bumping -Blading -Injuries -Darren Drozdoff -Stone Cold -Mick Foley
some videos i'll be showing: Owen piledriving Stone Cold Brock breaking both Hardcore Holly and A-Train's necks Jack Evans falling/being throw off the Cage of Death Clips from Foley/Taker HIAC
i'll be showing some videos....most of wrestlers actually being injured while wrestling, i've decided to not use any death match type stuff out of good taste
if anyone has anymore ideas feel free to reply...the speeches start tomorrow but i doubt i'll be going since there are usually people that like to volunteer to go...so i'll probably be giving my speech friday
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Post by Supreme on Mar 25, 2008 14:35:05 GMT -5
Get some clips of stiff wrestling. Tell about he broken bodies. Tell about interviews of training and the ordeal it is.
Tell then that yes it is fake in terms of punches and kicks and some of the tricks and that the winners are predetermined. Whoops, broke kayfabe there. But you should just show your point of view and address some of the issues as to why people believe it's fake.
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Post by P@ul on Mar 25, 2008 14:44:17 GMT -5
The whole point of a speech is that you don't use visual aids.
I think the best approach would to address that, yes, the winners are pre-determined, so in that respect wrestling is "fake" but the actual actions being performed in the ring are anything but. You could go on to list training, injuries, etc. There is nothing "fake" about the number of wreslters who have broken their necks/legs/arms in the ring.
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Post by AndyPeck13 on Mar 25, 2008 16:01:36 GMT -5
The whole point of a speech is that you don't use visual aids. I think the best approach would to address that, yes, the winners are pre-determined, so in that respect wrestling is "fake" but the actual actions being performed in the ring are anything but. You could go on to list training, injuries, etc. There is nothing "fake" about the number of wreslters who have broken their necks/legs/arms in the ring. that's not true at all, there are times when speeches would require you to use visual aid for example, saying you were trying to show someone how to build a deck, can you do it w/o visual aid...yes, but the use of visual aid helps to drive the point across...also the use of visual aid will help listners stay more focused... maybe i don't really need video clips for this speech...but i think it will help get my point across better
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Post by [MJH] on Mar 25, 2008 16:03:46 GMT -5
if visual aids are used it's more of a presentation.
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Mar 25, 2008 16:35:42 GMT -5
You should use this clip and show the aftermath pic:
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Post by CBT on Mar 25, 2008 16:59:17 GMT -5
Show the clip of Hayabusa's botched springboard... that'll get your class's attention. in' A! (I hope I used that term properly) I was getting ready to say that. As people see wrestling as theatrics, which to a degree it is, but there's skill and a physical demand. There's no strings as some one once said, or should have.
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Post by CBT on Mar 25, 2008 17:03:35 GMT -5
You should use this clip and show the aftermath pic: Sorry for the double-post, but the sound of that kick is sick. Maybe not the sickest to ever be delivered, but sick enough to step back and identify your role as a spectator and not the participant/receiver.
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Post by commish13 on Mar 26, 2008 4:10:09 GMT -5
One of the dumber things you could do is show and/or talk about stuff like Owen's piledriver on Austin or Brock breaking Bob Holly's neck, Hayabusa, etc. Your point is that wrestling is more real than it looks, not that human beings make mistakes. The only thing you'll prove by showing a bunch of botches is that wrestling is fake and the only time guys take any physical punishment is when somebody messes up. That's not the message you're looking to give.
Show pictures/clips of the chops and talk about how even when performed to exact perfection, the guys are still landing on an unforgiving surface when they take bumps. To talk about the mistakes that have lead to injuries would be idiotic.
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Post by Returnal on Mar 26, 2008 5:25:40 GMT -5
Mention that taking 1 bump is like getting hit by a car going 15 MPH...
Jericho said that in an interview and thats what he was told by a doctor.
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Post by Supreme on Mar 26, 2008 8:44:05 GMT -5
Mention that taking 1 bump is like getting hit by a car going 15 MPH... Jericho said that in an interview and thats what he was told by a doctor. That's actually a good point for your interview. If you can find interviews or documentation by professional such as doctors, it'll really add credibility to your presentation.
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Post by P@ul on Mar 26, 2008 13:46:00 GMT -5
if visual aids are used it's more of a presentation. Bingo.
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Post by RBW on Mar 26, 2008 21:58:38 GMT -5
Show them botchamania!
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Post by judasmesias on Mar 26, 2008 22:57:13 GMT -5
Wrestling isnt fake. i dont think it is. its scripted but not fake.
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