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Post by sonstuds on Dec 7, 2006 16:17:12 GMT -5
Why would you bring the Tag Titles back after getting rid of them a month ago? The tag titles got ed around, they were **** on, and just another belt to shut people up. I'd only bring them back, to reestabish something once great in WFWF, the tag team division. WFWF has had strong tag teams in the past, the only problem was, they were treated as one dimensional. I'd don't wanna throw the straps around, I just want to open up a avenue the once was very powerful in WFWF. That still doesn't really answer my question. If you're gonna get rid of them that's cool, and if you want to bring them back that's cool to, but it wouldn't make any sense to do both in the course of one month. You claim the tag division was weak, so why would it suddenly be stronger 5 weeks later, especially since the last two tag champs, the Anointed and the Revolution, have disbanded? I understand your point about tag teams being one dimensional, and to some extents I agree. I think the real good teams are the ones that aren't just "We joined up because we're the best and everyone else are losers!!!!". The Higher Authority fits that. I think you'd agree that (in storyline) you and Shadow don't really care about the tag titles. So, if the real good teams don't need or want the titles, then why even bother having them anyways? Now, flat out, no clue what you mean by "throwing the straps around". I'd assume multiple tag champs in the course of say, two months? If so, that's a good thing. It means there's competition. In e-feds belts should frequently be changing. Weren't the Revolution tag champs for months because no one was challenging them for it? Frequent champs shows equality in the division. And when it gets to the point someone finally does hold the belt(s) for months, when they're defending them just about every show, then it shows how good they really are.
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Post by tobeornottobe on Dec 7, 2006 17:11:53 GMT -5
New TopicOf these 5, which would you most like to see in WF? 1. Win-Loss Records.- Starting from the 1st FDS, and including all FDS', PPV's, and HS shows under new guidelines. There will be no ranking here, just the win-loss records of anybody whose stepped into a ring since me and Rev took over. 2. Tag Team titles- treated with respect, where potential champions would work both singles and tag team matches. I see the potential in alot of top singles guys pairing, while still focusing on there own direction. The idea would be to have top quality match with 4 individuals, nothing less, nothing more. 3. Monthly Ranking system.- Nothing to stress over, just a top 5 heel/faces and maybe tweeners mixed in. Judged by me and Rev, and just a example of good heel or face representation. Also, I may consider non-wrestling roles. So wrestlers, managers, staff, aswell as guys who come in and take non-wrestling roles. All you gotta do is stand out. 4. Title Rankings- alittle more of a nail biter. This would help us set contenders to both belts. Nobody is forbidden from going after either title, it'll just help us manage it. WFWF Heavyweight title rankings will begin with #1 being the champ. Then the top 4 contenders, #2 being the #1 contender. WFWF International title rankings will begin with #1 being the champ, #2 possibly the WFWF champ unless someone proves to be strong. From there, a total of 10 men or women will be listed. As for the potential tag team titles, the rankings will be any official tag team or faction, with the order being determined by threat or tag team experience. 5. WFWF Newswire- Handled by me and Rev, and possibly Obo aswell. This would be very similar to ROH's newswire. We'd have weekly newswires. every day adding 1 tidbit of important information. Could be hype, could be a match announcement, or a tease. The idea would be, to check for updates. Of the 2-3 most agreeded upon, will more then likely be made. I like the idea of bringing back the tag belts
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Post by electricenigma on Dec 7, 2006 17:16:28 GMT -5
I'm liking the title rankings, since people could try and perdict who would face the champ next, who the next champ might be out of the people up at that point, etc etc. The others can KMA.
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Post by Revvie® on Dec 7, 2006 17:26:37 GMT -5
im against rankings for simple reasons of it would cause disputes and lower the fun value of the fed.
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Post by CBT on Dec 7, 2006 17:27:26 GMT -5
I'm not bringing them back, per say. I just wanna know if there is interest in them. Me and Rev killed the belts, because there was not a division, 2 teams is not a division. But, a month has passed, and we've had atleast 10 new members join.. some people enjoy RPing, and want more then just "go for the biggest, and bestest belt." The International belt fills that void, and Wayne is a amazing person to hold a secondary belt. But its about opening new avenues.. there may not be interest in a tag team division now, but may be one day it'll be. Its like the women's title, that belt was not a priority, it was to fill a void, even if half of them could go for the guys titles. It wouldn't be strong a month later. I'm just looking at different directions me and Rev could take this place. If you don't tell us, we won't know. But its just a matter of looking to the roster. You mention Higher Authority, and the belts.. yet, in your previous comment put over the Anointed and Revolution, when... last time I checked, both were factions. Sure Revolution was Manny C and Kurt Burton, but the Anointed was 3 men with similar but different goals. That I d consider "we joined up because we're the best and everyone else are losers!!!!" Bottom line, I'm inactive, and me and Rev never claimed to be partners. We didn't form because we're better, but because we have a shared respect. Much like you and Alex. Much like Rupert and Sean. In other words, the belts are in consideration, because everybody wants to make a impact. But not everyone can do so alone. I don't know if I used the words, "throwing the straps around" but if I did, I mean.. we don't wanna bring the belts back when the division is absolutely dismal. I have no problem with the belts be defended every week. Or bi-monthly.. none of that is a concern of mine. I'm mainly saying, when it was Anointed vs Revolution, that was far from WFWF having a strong tag team division. Much like Obo said, it takes many teams, and the belts serve no purpose with out competition for the respective champions. The belts aren't being brought back. I just wanted to know from both the guys who've been here, to new faces, would a tag team division inspire you or interest you more? Believe it or not, but to some it may. Just like a hardcore/deathmatch title, cruiserweight, ect.. I don't want WFWF to be a cluster , with to many useless belts. But to say the tag team titles are useless, is unfair.. unless its not a priority in WFWF. which I could agree with you on, as there is only really 2 factions, and neither with interest in the belts.
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Post by ZMaster on Dec 7, 2006 17:43:08 GMT -5
I'd say bringing back the tag titles would be good although a newswire would be interesting.
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Dec 7, 2006 17:43:09 GMT -5
especially since the last two tag champs, the Anointed and the Revolution, have disbanded? Weren't the Revolution tag champs for months because no one was challenging them for it? 1.)Umm... Revolution ain't disbanded, we're expanded.... 2.) We were tag champ for a period of 5 or six shows, defended on two occasions, and mostly were champions for approximately four months more because Kyzer and Drakz were at least a week late with every set of results. It was like twice the ammount of time we'd have been champs had results come on time....
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Dec 7, 2006 17:46:37 GMT -5
But to say the tag team titles are useless, is unfair.. unless its not a priority in WFWF. which I could agree with you on, as there is only really 2 factions, and neither with interest in the belts.[/quote]
Hey, the Revolution would love a tag team championship, especially as I WANT MY BELT BACK!!!!!!!
Sorry, didn't mean to get pissy.
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Post by Revvie® on Dec 7, 2006 17:48:36 GMT -5
till i see atleast 3 more tag teams, there is no reason to put them back in circulation...i love the tag titles, i started out in that division and held them for a short reign b/c of all the bs that happened with the late results. so yea...
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Post by Almost Like Flacco on Dec 7, 2006 17:49:20 GMT -5
I like the idea of a newswire. That would be pretty cool.
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Post by Yukio Blaze on Dec 7, 2006 18:05:13 GMT -5
I like the tag team titles, only if you have at least 6 or so reliable teams. Also like the idea of title rankings and Newswire.
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Dec 7, 2006 18:06:26 GMT -5
I like the newswire, and I think that it is a good idea, I would suggest however, that we can throw suggestions to the owners about stuff to put in the newswire, for instance, if a new tag team formed, if somebody is joining a stable, if a stable breaks up, or if your character has a huge announcement to make. For instance, let's say we added a fourth member to the Revolution... We let CBT and Rev know, and they say something to that effect on the newswire, in a "tune in this week so you don't miss it" kind of way.
Also, I think title rankings are a bad idea. I have seen people get into arguments about way dumber stuff on here, and I think it would be a huge pot of controversy. And not positive, ratings boosting controversy, but "Lashley is champ?" controversy.
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Post by cureforthesickness on Dec 7, 2006 18:09:24 GMT -5
Also, I think title rankings are a bad idea. I have seen people get into arguments about way dumber stuff on here, and I think it would be a huge pot of controversy. And not positive, ratings boosting controversy, but "Lashley is champ?" controversy. simplified: X-Pac heat
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Dec 7, 2006 18:27:14 GMT -5
^ exactly! Thank you Obo.
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Post by Revvie® on Dec 7, 2006 18:28:30 GMT -5
ok Kurt you changed your pic so please either change your banner or soemthing...im so tired of seeing that ugly micro and sb banner lol
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Dec 7, 2006 18:32:38 GMT -5
I'm working on it... Sanchez's board is locked and I can't get my sig from there.
Edit: Wanna make me a new one?
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Post by Thunder on Dec 7, 2006 18:33:19 GMT -5
I'll get it for you.
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Post by Yukio Blaze on Dec 7, 2006 18:33:21 GMT -5
Give me a moment Burton
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Post by Thunder on Dec 7, 2006 18:34:21 GMT -5
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Post by Revvie® on Dec 7, 2006 18:34:45 GMT -5
well they can get it and I'll make you a new one, chris jericho is so easy to get psd's for so the banner should go pretty quickly
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