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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 16, 2007 22:50:52 GMT -5
I have a feeling Summerslam will be a re-match. Personally, I really think they should have saved this match for Wrestlemania. Man, you've gotta be kidding me. They want people to buy the PPV, not drive them away. And trust me, with a sh*tty main event like that, that would drive them all away, especially for a huge event like WrestleMania. I know if that was the main event for WrestleMania, I would NOT order it and I'm sure many others wouldn't either. A crappy main event deserves a crappy PPV and that's exactly what we are getting.
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Post by T R W on Jul 16, 2007 22:57:44 GMT -5
Most people would still order it. I doubt their buyrates would suffer at all, considering some of the main events we have gotten in the past. You don't like them, but a lot of people do. Two of the biggest superstars on the current roster are facing off for the first time, so I could see it being a good match for Wrestlemania. I can't think of anything more interesting in fact that would be better. I just wish they had allowed a little more time to build this match up.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 16, 2007 23:02:39 GMT -5
Lashley vs. Cena @ WrestleMania would be the equivalent of L.T. vs. Bam Bam Bigelow and we all know how great their match was.....Friggin' terrible.
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Post by T R W on Jul 16, 2007 23:05:48 GMT -5
Lashley vs. Cena @ WrestleMania would be the equivalent of L.T. vs. Bam Bam Bigelow and we all know how great their match was.....Friggin' terrible. We get that you don't like Cena and Lashley, but making statements like that is silly. Both of those guys are better than Bam Bam, and obviously better than a coked up LT. The LT thing was a nice gimmick for the WWE, but to say that Cena and Lashley can't have a better match than that just makes you look silly. I don't expect a Flair/Steamboat match from these guys, but it should be a fun, entertaining match.
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Post by taker1 on Jul 16, 2007 23:09:05 GMT -5
Lashley vs. Cena @ WrestleMania would be the equivalent of L.T. vs. Bam Bam Bigelow and we all know how great their match was.....Friggin' terrible. We get that you don't like Cena and Lashley, but making statements like that is silly. Both of those guys are better than Bam Bam, and obviously better than a coked up LT. The LT thing was a nice gimmick for the WWE, but to say that Cena and Lashley can't have a better match than that just makes you look silly. I don't expect a Flair/Steamboat match from these guys, but it should be a fun, entertaining match. I agree. It's not going to be a very good match, but comparing it to LT/Bam Bam is crazy.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 16, 2007 23:11:40 GMT -5
Well, you believe what you want to believe. I guess you have forgotten all about Lashley's atrocious match with Kennedy not too long ago...My God, what a mess that was. Just a train-wreck from start to finish.
If he can't have a good match with Kennedy, then I know for a FACT that his match with Cena will be a friggin' disaster.
Please, open your eyes and realize that both Cena and Lashley are nothing but sh*t. End of story.
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Post by T R W on Jul 16, 2007 23:14:55 GMT -5
Oh I forgot, your opinions are more correct than everybody elses.
I guess I have to hate Cena and Lashley now. Damn.
I've been watching wrestling for over 25 years, and I have seen a lot of crap. I don't think these guys are near the best ever, but they're not nearly the worst ever either, like so many wish to proclaim. It's one thing not to like a wrestler, but to be so irrational about it, well, it's just silly.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 16, 2007 23:28:20 GMT -5
Well, I don't believe my opinions are any more correct than anyone else on here, but I do know that I am right when I say that the match between Lashley & Kennedy was a friggin' disaster and you know it. I don't know how ANYONE could argue that fact.
Ok, maybe I'm letting my temper get the best of me here. So, I'll give them a shot. I hope Cena & Lashley put on a good match at 'The Bash, but judging their track record, it really isn't that good because they always had someone better in there to carry them through it, but this time, they are on their own and we'll see how they do.
There won't be a Kurt Angle or Chris Jericho or Triple H or Shawn Michaels to carry them through it. They are on their own and like I said, we'll see what happens.
If they do bad, which I'm kinda expecting them to do because neither will ever be known for their technical ability or vast array of chain-wrestling, then I'll be there to say I told you so. So, don't be surprised when you hear it.
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Post by Ari Gold on Jul 17, 2007 1:04:12 GMT -5
We get that you don't like Cena and Lashley, but making statements like that is silly. Both of those guys are better than Bam Bam, and obviously better than a coked up LT. The LT thing was a nice gimmick for the WWE, but to say that Cena and Lashley can't have a better match than that just makes you look silly. I don't expect a Flair/Steamboat match from these guys, but it should be a fun, entertaining match. I agree. It's not going to be a very good match, but comparing it to LT/Bam Bam is crazy. i agree.
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Post by Overnight Sensation on Jul 17, 2007 1:08:00 GMT -5
the show has a good theme song
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Post by Barrett on Jul 17, 2007 2:03:26 GMT -5
Cena/Lashley won't be a technical masterpiece, but for the average fan this has got to be considered a dream match. It's two of the WWE's top faces/main eventers wrestling for the first time. I dare say that as far as "drawing power" goes, it could be as big as the Rock/Mankind matches of '98 or '99. Wouldn't go as far to compare it to Austin/Rock, though. But IMO, this is a match many fans have been wanting to see for a while now, and I'm surprised they're giving it up at an event like Great American Bash. It seems to me that this "epic first encounter" would have made a great main event for Summerslam, and they could've easily had a Fatal Four Way at GAB with Kennedy and Booker thrown in to draw out the feud. It's not like they have anything to do on the PPV. But I see Cena retaining. At this point, I'm actually pulling for him to hold the title until Unforgiven, so he can say he held it for one whole year.
As far as hype/storyline/booking/whatever goes, Orton/Rhodes is the only other interesting match on the card. And that's moreso because I believe Cody will cost Dusty the match leading to some sort of Rhodes showdown at Summerslam. Kane/Edge will probably be entertaining enough, but it's the victim of some random booking. That bull **** Mardi Gras segment last week has caused me to lose a lot of interest in this chapter of the Edge/Kane feud. As much as I'd like to, I just don't view either Nitro or Punk as true main eventers yet, and I cannot see Nitro dropping the belt this soon. Perhaps I'll have more interest in this feud by the time Summerslam rolls around. I like both men and think they'll both be major players in the future of WWE, but I just haven't been interested enough to tune into ECW regularly. Like Cena/Lashley, Batista/Khali is a match that probably interests the average fan, but I can't defend this one. I can't stand to watch Khali and Batista doesn't seem like the kind of guy that can pull a good match out of him. Hopefully it'll just be a short "sports entertainment" type of segment. I don't think either of the Hardys' matches will be bad, but I have no reason to believe that either of them will be walking out with gold, so I don't really care. Of the two matches, I'm probably more interested in the Intercontinental Title match. Even though it's the most pointless match on the card, I'm a bigger fan of Umaga than I am of either Hardy or MVP. The women's title match will probably include a lot of interference from Mickie/Beth and perhaps lead to a Fatal Four Way at Summerslam. I see Candice retaining. And thus, I see no titles changing hands at this event. At the most, maybe one Hardy will gain a shiney new belt, but that's about it, IMO. It's not a bad card, I just haven't been given much of a reason to care about much of it. And that's not how you get Barrett to order an event.
Originally I was going to say that while the '05 edition of GAB had the strongest card, this would be the best overall show. However, while I think the card for the '05 event looks best on paper, once I thought back to all the storylines surrounding that event, I retract that statement. This Great American Bash has the best card so far and will no doubt be the best show thus far (excluding all the WCW editions I never saw). Which in all fairness isn't saying much since the first GAB had one of the lousiest, poorly hyped, randomly thrown together cards EVER (If you can list more than 3 matches from this event off the top of your head, you deserve some sort of large ass trophy.) the second one had some terrible storylines (Benoit/Jordan wasn't interesting yet, a babyface Booker hasn't interested Barrett since he was buried at WMXIX, Dominic's inclusion into the Eddie/Rey storyline, Hassan's character went from upset Arab-American to a terrorist, and Batista/JBL wasn't nearly as intriguing as when they teased the feud before WM21), and last year had probably the most cursed card I've ever seen (there was much debate whether Noble/Kash would be able to wrestle, Lashley was pulled from the Triple Threat match, I believe Matt Hardy replaced Super Crazy, Khali was replaced by Big Show, and Kennedy replaced Mark Henry).
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Post by Mark on Jul 17, 2007 2:18:17 GMT -5
whats a good quality about Lashley besides jumping high and his "power"
Is it his charisma?
Im not attacking I'm just asking what YOU see in him because I don't see nothing in him but a whiner. Im just curious.
I still stand by the fact that Lashley isn't the biggest superstar. He doesn't get pops anywhere near Batista who I think is biggest but may have fallen off if judging on crowd cheers. Secondly, I dont see his merchandise flying off the racks nor do I see the crowd eagerly wanting Lashley.. Biggest in the WWE are Cena, HHH, Undertaker and I guess HBK. Thats about it. Lashley? No
Also I would really like to see all these people saying its a dream match Austin mentioned because people I spoke to at work haven't said nothing about them being a dream match they told me they were more interested in MVP.
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Post by szatowski420 on Jul 17, 2007 7:47:50 GMT -5
You know if I was 10 years old, I'd be really looking forward to Lashley vs Cena this Sunday. I'm not 10 and if I did order this ppv(which I'm not because I have dignity), I would shut it off right before this match happened. Oh and I'd ignore the Batista vs Khali match too. These two matches are going to SUCK and everybody that doesn't have the last name McMahon, realizes that.
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Post by szatowski420 on Jul 17, 2007 7:49:10 GMT -5
Lashley vs. Cena @ WrestleMania would be the equivalent of L.T. vs. Bam Bam Bigelow and we all know how great their match was.....Friggin' terrible. Cena vs Lashley at wrestlemanai would be a worse main event than Undertaker vs Sid at WM 13. That match sucked!
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Post by Trypod on Jul 17, 2007 8:47:02 GMT -5
Cena vs. Lashley will be a fun main event to watch. Not based on the quality of the match itself, but the reaction the fans have to it that are in attendance. Even if I'm not 'feeling' the match, if the fans are going wild for two of the biggest stars in the company right now, then I'm naturally being drawn into it. The crowd can make anything fun, and in different ways, too. Like Goldberg/Lesnar. But this isn't an MSG crowd, so it'll be a little bit different than that.
Cena/Lashley won't be a five star classic, but neither was Hogan/Warrior, and that match seems to be on everyone's Top 10 list. This main event (although, obviously not as big) has that same type of 'unreal' clash of two big superstars. Even though it's a cliché to say these days, but Cena/Lashley looks like 'the next' Hogan/Warrior. It actually should be really fun to see.
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Post by The Undertaker on Jul 17, 2007 10:05:43 GMT -5
Cena vs. Lashley will be a fun main event to watch. Not based on the quality of the match itself, but the reaction the fans have to it that are in attendance. Even if I'm not 'feeling' the match, if the fans are going wild for two of the biggest stars in the company right now, then I'm naturally being drawn into it. The crowd can make anything fun, and in different ways, too. Like Goldberg/Lesnar. But this isn't an MSG crowd, so it'll be a little bit different than that. Cena/Lashley won't be a five star classic, but neither was Hogan/Warrior, and that match seems to be on everyone's Top 10 list. This main event (although, obviously not as big) has that same type of 'unreal' clash of two big superstars. Even though it's a cliché to say these days, but Cena/Lashley looks like 'the next' Hogan/Warrior. It actually should be really fun to see. i really like how you explained that. Thats how ive been looking at the match as well, even though it will not be a MOTY candidate, it will be exciting.
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Post by szatowski420 on Jul 17, 2007 10:23:44 GMT -5
Cena vs. Lashley will be a fun main event to watch. Not based on the quality of the match itself, but the reaction the fans have to it that are in attendance. Even if I'm not 'feeling' the match, if the fans are going wild for two of the biggest stars in the company right now, then I'm naturally being drawn into it. The crowd can make anything fun, and in different ways, too. Like Goldberg/Lesnar. But this isn't an MSG crowd, so it'll be a little bit different than that. Cena/Lashley won't be a five star classic, but neither was Hogan/Warrior, and that match seems to be on everyone's Top 10 list. This main event (although, obviously not as big) has that same type of 'unreal' clash of two big superstars. Even though it's a cliché to say these days, but Cena/Lashley looks like 'the next' Hogan/Warrior. It actually should be really fun to see. The only place I'd want to see Cena vs Lashley is in fromt of the Hammerstein Ballroom fans in NYC. No doubt they'd chant "you both suck" at these two guys among other things and it would be entertaining as hell. The chants, not the match
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Post by szatowski420 on Jul 17, 2007 10:25:11 GMT -5
Cena vs. Lashley will be a fun main event to watch. Not based on the quality of the match itself, but the reaction the fans have to it that are in attendance. Even if I'm not 'feeling' the match, if the fans are going wild for two of the biggest stars in the company right now, then I'm naturally being drawn into it. The crowd can make anything fun, and in different ways, too. Like Goldberg/Lesnar. But this isn't an MSG crowd, so it'll be a little bit different than that. Cena/Lashley won't be a five star classic, but neither was Hogan/Warrior, and that match seems to be on everyone's Top 10 list. This main event (although, obviously not as big) has that same type of 'unreal' clash of two big superstars. Even though it's a cliché to say these days, but Cena/Lashley looks like 'the next' Hogan/Warrior. It actually should be really fun to see. Warrior vs Hogan from WM 6 was a good match and Lashley vs Cena won't be anywhere near as good. Count on it!
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Post by The Undertaker on Jul 17, 2007 10:40:20 GMT -5
you guys need to stop whining about this match. I dont like Cena, as i matter of fact i despise him, but i still want to see the match. if you dont like the match, turn the show off when it comes on, or better yet, DONT BUY THE PPV.
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Post by cccmrkennedy on Jul 17, 2007 15:12:56 GMT -5
Just a few things I'd like to say to people badmouthing Lashley & Cena.
1. Mr. Old School was saying about nobody to carry the match, if you knew the first thing about wrestling is that it takes two to tango. It's impossible to carry someone through a match, you should realise that....
2. I guess everybody has time machines now ? Cause your saying how terrible Cena/Lashley is yet the match has never happened, you've never seen it etc. Can I have one of your time machines to see this so called "god-awful match".
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