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Post by American Phenom on Jul 6, 2007 15:27:43 GMT -5
Scarborough Country Notes from Thursday night:
- Dan Abrams brought up a reporter attributed to Dave Meltzer that Nancy Benoit confronted Chris Benoit about a life insurance policy listing his ex-wife and children from his first marriages as the beneficiaries. Abrams also noted the interview with the AP with Chris’s mother. “It’s so late now, too late. You can’t turn the clock back .. we would certainly hope so. We just don’t know.” Mrs. Benoit making the assertion that her son may be alive if DEA would have moved in quicker regarding Chris’s steroid use.
- Abrams points out how everyone is trying to shift the blame in the case. 1) lets blame the DEA; 2) lets blame the doctor, 3) Billy O’Reilly blaming Nancy Benoit and instead of blaming Chris Benoit.
- Defense attorney BJ Bernstein said its not ridiculous to claim the investigation is taking too long when the indictments handed down to Dr. Phil Astin are for alleged improper prescriptions dating back to 2004 and 2005.
- DEA Spokesman Rusty Payne told AP, “We can arrested and prosecute users, but they are not the target or focus of most investigations .. we want to bring charges that are legitimate. Cases take time.”
- Marc Mero said we need to go after the doctors and wrestlers, but realizes the DEA probably doesn’t have the man power to go after every single user.
- Dave Meltzer said it was well known in the Atlanta community that Dr. Astin saw a lot of professional wrestlers and athletes and was liked because he was seen as the “handy man” for what wrestlers needed.
- Meltzer pointed out that Dr. Astin’s was fifty miles away from Benoit, but Mero said that Dave is sugar coating the issue and says wrestlers can get what they need anywhere they want.
- Meltzer was questioned about the life insurance policy he reported on. Meltzer said he isn’t sure if the insurance policy is true or not, but knows the argument over it occurred. Dave said he doesn’t have record of the insurance policy.
- The panel discussed the Benoit murder-suicide theories around this case. Meltzer said the drugs use likely made him more depressed than he already was, but Dave said he can’t come up with any reason he would have killed his son.
- A reporter that talked to the DA said he is confident of a double murder-suicide.
- Abrams mentioned another tidbit reported by Meltzer that the couple fought in front of friends.
- Meltzer was asked about his report that Nancy put a note in a safe deposit box that if anything happened to her, it was Benoit. Meltzer said he doesn’t know for certain the note exists, but knows investigators are investigating a safe deposit box. Abrams said the authorities know of the safe deposit box, but there was nothing in it that suggested she had written such a note.
- Mero said he had thought the Benoit marriage was fine, and never even saw Chris get angry.
- Mero said he had worked with guys that are hard to work with or aggressive, and some guys you could see possibly snapping.
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Jul 6, 2007 15:31:38 GMT -5
It's just Meltzer, the IWC's Messiah, throwing more sh*t at the wall, and watching to see what sticks.
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Post by OverTheEdge on Jul 6, 2007 15:32:12 GMT -5
Looks like it. He reported things, and now that he's confronted about it, he's suddenly unsure.
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Post by Dave Grohl on Jul 6, 2007 15:41:18 GMT -5
Bill O'Reilly squarely put the blame on Chris Benoit himself. He did make mention of the mess this situation is and the complexity of how it came to be. In doing that he did explain the people involved in this and where they all fit in to the story as well as the "hand" they had in this occuring. Never once did Bill O'Reilly blame Nancy Benoit for this tragedy. I'm not sure if you are quoting scarborough in accusing Bill of this or if that was what you inferred from that show. If this is your "view" of the situation I would like to see a quote of these comments. This is how rumors and smearing gets started. Please don't mislead others into thinking he said something he didn't unless you can quote him because as far as I know this just isn't true.
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Post by Stevo on Jul 6, 2007 15:49:51 GMT -5
Yeah, it definitely looks like he jumped the gun and reported things that haven't been proven yet.
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Post by manstration on Jul 6, 2007 15:52:08 GMT -5
First off... eh it's not worth energy. Bill O'Reilly sucks in general.
This should also probably go in the Benoit thread.
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Jul 6, 2007 15:56:04 GMT -5
He makes his living being a liar. What do you expect?
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Post by classicfan on Jul 6, 2007 16:15:56 GMT -5
Some people will do alot for their 15 minutes of fame...
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 6, 2007 16:26:15 GMT -5
This will mostly likely make me sound like an apologist, however if you look at it from a logical point of view, there are very, very few people that would have known that much information about what Chris was doing so far as the insurance policy goes. Bearing that in mind, Meltzer couldn't outright confirm it, because he has a source of information and in his mind, was probably protecting that source.
As far as the safety deposit notes are concerned, I wouldn't think that the investigators would be all that eager to reveal anything of what was found piecemeal. I would imagine they will disclose what they found in total once the toxicology reports have been analyzed and the investigation is complete.
And, I just have to know... What the hell would Marc freakin' Mero know about Chris and Nancy's marriage? I guess he knows more than Nancy did, considering she did file a restraining order against him four years ago, huh?
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Post by Dave Grohl on Jul 6, 2007 17:25:33 GMT -5
First off... eh it's not worth energy. Bill O'Reilly sucks in general. This should also probably go in the Benoit thread. Thanks for the insight. Unfortunately sir, that is just your opinion that he sucks. For every person like you that says he sucks, there are far more in the world who say just the opposite. So unless your definition of "sucks" is (v.) "dominating your time slot for insight and information on news and beating all your competition combined in ratings" then you have a point. Other wise, you clearly do not. 616 Got any examples of him lying? Doctor I agree with you. Meltzer has been around for ever and obviously has a connection(s) and is going off what he is told by that person(s) that leaks him all of his info. But no matter who his informant it, unless Benoit was one for him then he ALSO knows nothing about this case I would imagine. Marc Mero being on TV talking about wrestling period is an ABSOLUTE JOKE and shame on Greta Von Frankenstein for having him on at all. After 20 yers a long standing question of mine was answered. "Why doesnt Steve Blackman ever do interviews or promos in wrestling?"
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Post by Mark on Jul 6, 2007 17:33:30 GMT -5
Blackman blinked so many times it was crazy
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Post by manstration on Jul 6, 2007 17:34:24 GMT -5
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Post by Dave Grohl on Jul 6, 2007 17:41:20 GMT -5
Blackman blinked so many times it was crazy You noticed that? I thought it was hilarious to watch him try to get into character for the first time in his life and try to get angry with Mero but it just didn't work. It was like jeez Blackman, what does it take to get some real emotion out of you? You can't even make it look like your mad when someone is basically humilating you on national tv?
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Post by superjswo on Jul 6, 2007 19:57:39 GMT -5
- Meltzer was questioned about the life insurance policy he reported on. Meltzer said he isn’t sure if the insurance policy is true or not, but knows the argument over it occurred. Dave said he doesn’t have record of the insurance policy. Meltzer also reported that the insurrance policy report came from an outside source, a newspaper in Edmondton. - Meltzer was asked about his report that Nancy put a note in a safe deposit box that if anything happened to her, it was Benoit. Meltzer said he doesn’t know for certain the note exists, but knows investigators are investigating a safe deposit box. Abrams said the authorities know of the safe deposit box, but there was nothing in it that suggested she had written such a note.
- Mero said he had thought the Benoit marriage was fine, and never even saw Chris get angry. Again, the note story came from Nancy's friend who she spoke to on a Thursday, the week before the double murder/suicide. You guys want to post the full story before taking a shot a Meltzer.
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Post by Graze on Jul 6, 2007 20:33:43 GMT -5
I find it funny, WWE fans always are attacking Meltzer, indy fans don't, yet WWE fans trip over themselves to attack him
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Jul 6, 2007 21:23:12 GMT -5
*Waits for Asia to come defend Meltzer.*
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Post by VK on Jul 6, 2007 22:03:54 GMT -5
Meltzer's always been full of it, and you act like it's something new.
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Post by goblin22 on Jul 6, 2007 22:13:25 GMT -5
I've been saying that guy was full of it (and himself) for years. He reports absolutely everything he hears then ignores the tons of crap that proves wrong and advertises the things that pan out as stories that he broke. Dude is only interested in Hits and Subscribers. The legitimate media cross paths with him even glancingly and he gets exposed for a punk. Its happened before it will happen again.
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Jul 6, 2007 22:31:01 GMT -5
First off... eh it's not worth energy. Bill O'Reilly sucks in general. This should also probably go in the Benoit thread. 616 Got any examples of him lying? quot; Yea. Ever read his 'news'?
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Post by NotoriusVIG on Jul 6, 2007 22:49:33 GMT -5
Do you guys have proof that he actually reported this from the Observer? Half of y'all probably don't even get it to know.
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