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Post by ctvampslayer on Aug 24, 2007 20:36:53 GMT -5
Nothing. He's a fine worker and good in his role as a mid-carder, I wouldn't mind him as US Champ, but he's just not at that Main Event level, despite the recent surge of fans who think otherwise.
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Post by dirtydeeds on Aug 24, 2007 20:51:29 GMT -5
Ok There is nothing special about Matt Hardy, He Will never be known as anything else other than a midcarder for 9 years he has been living in Jeff's Shadow, His matches are boring its like his opponent is carrying him through the match and all of a sudden TWIST OF FATE 1......2........3, People need to understand that Smackdown is Underlooking Some wrestlers such as Kenny (Ok Maybe not better than Matt, But he looks like WHC Material) Finlay (Should have been World Champ Ages Ago) Chris Masters (What is this guy doing here? Nothing, he has talent, Move him up to WHC division), Kane (For a guy thats being in WWE for 10 years you would think he would have the title more than once, well for atleast 2 days anyway)
Smackdown needs Undertaker, Rey, Helms, Edge and MVP Back in action fast
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Post by JM™ on Aug 24, 2007 22:51:57 GMT -5
IMO and sorry to all the Jeff fans but, I think Matt was like the legit wrestler in the Hardy Boyz and still is. They only give Jeff a push because hes a fan favorite and people like his death-defying moves more than the wrestling it self.
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Post by onemoretime on Aug 24, 2007 23:28:22 GMT -5
LOL!I love the immaturity everyone has shown in this thread. pro-Matt Hardy Fans: OUR OPINION IS CORRECT, MATT HARDY=GOD!!!! anti-Matt Hardy FANS: NO!!! OUR OPINION IS CORRECT, HE SUCKS, HE'S DONE NOTHING HE SHOULD DIE!!!!!!  When are you people going to realize that you're arguing opinions and there is nothing that any one of you could ever possibly say that is going change anyone's mind? |
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Post by onemoretime on Aug 24, 2007 23:43:26 GMT -5
Ok There is nothing special about Matt Hardy, He Will never be known as anything else other than a midcarder for 9 years he has been living in Jeff's Shadow, His matches are boring its like his opponent is carrying him through the match and all of a sudden TWIST OF FATE 1......2........3, People need to understand that Smackdown is Underlooking Some wrestlers such as Kenny (Ok Maybe not better than Matt, But he looks like WHC Material) Finlay (Should have been World Champ Ages Ago) Chris Masters (What is this guy doing here? Nothing, he has talent, Move him up to WHC division), Kane (For a guy thats being in WWE for 10 years you would think he would have the title more than once, well for atleast 2 days anyway)Smackdown needs Undertaker, Rey, Helms, Edge and MVP Back in action fastDespite my last post, I would like to pick apart your post and tell you how wrong and full of **** you are. For your convenience, I have color coded everything. 1. How can he be living in Jeff's shadow when Jeff can't even hold a job??? Not only that, but I don't recall Matt Hardy ever being booed out of an arena like Jeff was in RoH. :::waits for all the pointless ROH bashing from WWE marks who have never even seen it before:::2. You say that Matt Hardy sucks and he doesn't deserve a main event spot. You then say that Kenny is not as good as Matt but he deserves to be in the main event. What the  is that? That doesn't even make any sense.3. He's too old and too generic. I remember being a fan of him as Fit Finlay like 20 years ago in WCW when he was doing the exact same thing that he's still doing today. He's kinda like a crappy (i.e: less talented) version of William Regal.4. Why should he be moved up to the WHC division so soon? I'm a fan of his and I would to see him main eventing on either brand, but what has he done in the WWE thus far? Not a damn thing.5. I couldn't possibly agree more. There aren't many more people in the WWE that deserve the World Title more than Kane. Only he held the World Title once and I believe it was something like 12 hours.6. What could Shane Helms and MVP possibly have to offer? I have not ever (and don't think I will ever) see what everyone else sees in MVP. And as far as Sugar Shane goes... he could be a hot commodity if they weren't pissing away the CW division. I'd suggest him going to TNA, but they're pissing away the X Division guys there, so unless he goes to Mexico or Japan he is just ed. |
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Post by TeamExtreme718x on Aug 25, 2007 1:53:19 GMT -5
I think this whole topic is bull crap...Matt does deserve a run and you know it....Hes having a great match after match and yet you guys say he doesnt deserve the belt..AND KHALI DOES!!!! What does he do? Yet no1 bitches about him as champ...
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Post by eggman on Aug 25, 2007 4:32:46 GMT -5
I think this whole topic is bull ****...Matt does deserve a run and you know it....Hes having a great match after match and yet you guys say he doesnt deserve the belt..AND KHALI DOES!!!! What does he do? Yet no1 bitches about him as champ... I wonder why you would say that? |
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Post by wwfanatic04 on Aug 25, 2007 4:37:36 GMT -5
There is nothing great about Matt Hardy. Yes, he has worked hard. Yes, he has paid his dues. Does that equal a world title? No. I guess Hardcore Holly should be champion as well seeing as how he's been here for a long time and paid his dues. He has never been more than a mid-carder, and never will be. He gets a good reaction, but people wouldn't buy him as a world champion. But they can buy Rey Mysterio as World Champion? I believe that Matt COULD become World Champion one day. It all depends on how he presents himself. Years ago, I never thought Edge would reach the point where he's at now. Edge isn't amazing either but he presents so much passion when he talks and his look is that of a main-event level superstar. If Matt Hardy become V1 again or 2, and was back to being a major heel, he could become U.S. Champion and then soon enough, World Champion. Edit: Also, Hardcore Holly got a WWE title shot back in 2003 against Lesnar and he's a mid-carder; and Snitsky is nothing but crap, yet he could be WWE Champion in the next year. Lets hope to God that he isn't, but it's possible because of the way WWE is presenting him. It doesn't even matter how big he is, Snitsky was in the ring tagging with Eugene and Goldust a year or so ago and was getting squashed by mid-carders. Now he's suddenly a monster. |
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Post by "The Animal!" on Aug 25, 2007 5:33:09 GMT -5
I think this whole topic is bull ****...Matt does deserve a run and you know it....Hes having a great match after match and yet you guys say he doesnt deserve the belt..AND KHALI DOES!!!! What does he do? Yet no1 bitches about him as champ... You said it man. Well, they do bitch about Khali at times but yeah, Matt Hardy deserves the a title run in many ways that have been said. 'Wats So Great About Matt Hardy?' - Well for starters, his better than you. |
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Post by Too Sweet on Aug 25, 2007 5:59:24 GMT -5
Matt Hardy's whole gimmick is "hey, Edge ed my ex-girlfriend.....please feel sorry for me". Yeah, look at Khali's a Dumbass Tall Indian who can't even Talk English, and your Complaining about Matt's |
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Post by markallenkellner on Aug 25, 2007 6:51:28 GMT -5
I totally agree, Matt's ok in the ring, but horrible on the mic. Jeff is just a glorified stuntman. Well, Ive never really seen him more than a midcarder, yet around half this board think that he deserves a Main Event push, why? I mean he's been with the company for around a decade, and he's not really done anything more than be a 'Hardy Boy'. Plus he's being overrated while others, who have been there just a few years, are being over looked (e.g. Masters, Dykstra, ect.) So can someone please explain to me wat the hell is soooooooo great about him? |
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Post by Adam3s - V1 on Aug 25, 2007 8:29:57 GMT -5
He is having the best match of the night for the past 2 years on Smackdown with only Benoit and Finlay matches beating it some weeks. How has Matt been carried by some when he has gotten the best matches out of some wrestlers such as Kenny and Masters. He is over, however you try and put it he always gets a decent cheer and is the most over mid-carder in the whole WWE. Loyal has never once said anything bad about the WWE even after they fired him. Markable gimmick same as Cena's beating the odds except not being superman and sometimes losing to the odds to come back stronger. Apart from Batista he is the next over face who is on the brand often.
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Aug 25, 2007 8:56:25 GMT -5
I find him bland when wrestling singles. He is a much better tag wrestler with Jeff.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2007 10:13:34 GMT -5
I think if Matt definately has what it takes to be in he main event. For example, if he went into the main event seen with his version 1 gimmick. Then I would totally buy hhim as a mian eventer.
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Aug 25, 2007 10:30:25 GMT -5
Nothing. He's a fine worker and good in his role as a mid-carder, I wouldn't mind him as US Champ, but he's just not at that Main Event level, despite the recent surge of fans who think otherwise. Exactly what i think. I dont see him as more than a mid-carder no matter how he is pushed. He in my mind isnt what i see as world champion or main event material not even with his current push. |
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Post by TeamExtreme718x on Aug 25, 2007 13:12:40 GMT -5
I think this whole topic is bull ****...Matt does deserve a run and you know it....Hes having a great match after match and yet you guys say he doesnt deserve the belt..AND KHALI DOES!!!! What does he do? Yet no1 bitches about him as champ... I wonder why you would say that? So what dude.. Im a Hardyz fan..Im sure every Orton fan would react the same way if everyone started hating on him.. You know the guy is talented.. You know he payed his due.. Give the man some credit..Dont say hes nothing more then a "Hardy Boy".. Cuz you know damn sure.. he could be more then that.. |
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Post by JTG on Aug 25, 2007 13:44:32 GMT -5
Matt Hardy is a good wrestler, but I'd like to see him as U.S. Champ first to see what he's like as a major singles champion and then I'll decide whether I'd like to see him as World Champion. I'd much rather see him as champion over Khali. Time will tell. Maybe he'll be the new JBL in a year or two from now.
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Post by eggman on Aug 25, 2007 14:31:51 GMT -5
I wonder why you would say that? So what dude.. Im a Hardyz fan..Im sure every Orton fan would react the same way if everyone started hating on him.. You know the guy is talented.. You know he payed his due.. Give the man some credit..Dont say hes nothing more then a "Hardy Boy".. Cuz you know damn sure.. he could be more then that.. Yeah, I admit he's a good wrestler, but he's just not Main Event material  and he never will be. |
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Post by The Hitman on Aug 25, 2007 14:59:40 GMT -5
Besides the fact he usually has match of the night every time he wrestles on Smackdown and is one of the most over guys on the roster, along with being around long enough and paying his dues. Nothing I guess Wat the hell? Match of The Night? The only match that I have liked that had Matt in it is the Cage match he had against Edge at Unforgiven in 2005 (I think) Yeah I mean those TLC matches really sucked huh? BEsides what have him and Jeff done with ladder matches. Give me a break Matt Hardy is a great in ring wrestler. Your probably a Khali fan, oh there s is a great wrestler. |
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Post by cccmrkennedy on Aug 25, 2007 15:28:59 GMT -5
Ok, I've went through this entire thread and have picked out some things that I think need talking about : (I am an independent poster, and neither a Matt lover or a Matt hater) Part One : Plus he's being overrated while others, who have been there just a few years, are being over looked (e.g. Masters, Dykstra, ect.) Masters & Dykstra are no way better wrestlers than Matt. They do deserve a push, but Matt deserves one more. Besides the fact he usually has match of the night every time he wrestles on Smackdown and is one of the most over guys on the roster, along with being around long enough and paying his dues. Nothing I guess Funaki could do the same, if given a good opponent. Should he have a World Title push ? I mean, by your logic, why not ? Loyal, hard working, experienced That 70's Show much ?  he is well respected and yet no push......he is far more better than jeff...just because jeff has different kinds of hair styles and looks, kids like him.....but Matt, he doesnt have to have all different kinds of crazy looks.....he just goes out and wrestle and gives it his best....and plus he is WAY BETTER than that lame jabroni MVP 1. Stop quoting The Rock. 2. Little kids do not like Jeff Hardy because of his hairstyle. They like him because of his high flying style. 3. MVP is a better wrestler than Matt Hardy, and is not lame. i hope he kicks that stupid lame boring MVPs ass at summerslam Once again, lame & boring ? I can't believe your describing MVP. He is the freshest character the WWE have had in a while. If anything, Matt Hardy is the one who is boring. He needs to go back to V1 or something. Hilarious at the thread starter. You have the nerve to say that Dykstra and Masters is better! You claim Matt has done nothing. Name 3 things special Dykstra or Masters has ever done. I can name 100 things Matt has done. Be appart of the very first Tag Team Tables match, 1st ever TLC match, is a former European champion, has put on many GREAT matches, and lost more. Masters has been caught using steroids. Thats about it. You claim all Hardy has been is a "Hardy Boy". Remember the Spirit Squad. I rest my case. hes prolly a new fan Sorry, but you have to be the dumbest person I've ever seen. 1. Learn to spell 2. Learn how to use grammar properly 3. A new fan ? If anything, it is more likely that you are the new fan. New/Young fans will normally like the faces e.g. Matt Hardy. Wow. You do know that everything the Hardy's do is scripted, right? Yes. But Matt takes falls, and does entertaining things. AKA WM 17, WM 23 etc. Matt has put on many 5 star matches. Name a 5 star match the other tow have had! That doesn't make him a great wrestler because he take bumps. If that's what you think is wrestling, you should watch the Joe/Punk series. That, is wrestling. In response to DESTINY: Kenny has beaten Ric Flair in his first year on TV. Masters has beaten Kurt Angle in his first year on TV. End of. are you saying dykstra is better that ric flair?  are you saying masters is better than kurt angle? HA what a joke Nobody said that. He was making a point that Masters & Dykstra have beaten two of the greatest wrestlers of all time, which is an accomplishment. MVP is leaps and bounds better than Matt Hardy in every single way possible. How the is MVP better because he has a flashy entrance, A chain that has his name on it, He says ballin every match, because he has a heart condition, because he's the highest paid athelete in smackdown history, because he got lit on fire MVP is just an overrated piece of **** that got too big of a push and had a in heart attack and get's washed up boxers to fight for him I apologize to UNKNOWN. You, my friend are the dumbest person I've ever seen. 1. He's better because he's a better wrestler dumbass. 2. Too big of a push ? Getting the US Title after a year of great matches and excellent performances ? Yeah, whatever. 3. That last statement has to be the stupidest thing I've ever read. MVP has a HEART CONDITION, let's see you wrestle a match with a heart condition dickwad. P.S. Also, you know wrestling is scripted right ? Who the hell mentioned TLC? You didn't I did, WWE don't do 3 TLC matches in one year, you said the hardys had been round a year. TLC 1 - SummerSlam 2000 TLC 2 - WrestleMania X-Seven TLC 3 - SmackDown, Summer 2001. That's three TLC's in one year. You! I have been a fan alot longer than alot of the newbes on this board, I have been a fan of WWF/E for the last 8 years, more than half my life, so the only thing for me left to say is: You Just Got Owned! That's not getting owned at all.... You! I have been a fan alot longer than alot of the newbes on this board, I have been a fan of WWF/E for the last 8 years, more than half my life, so the only thing for me left to say is: You Just Got Owned! ur a new fan and you kno it......so the bottom lline is MASTERS SUCKS THAT CHEERLEADER SUCKS MATT HARDY WILL DESTROY BOTH OF THOSE JABRONis anyythime Referring to my earlier reply : 1. Stop quoting The Rock. 2. You don't know him. How can you say he's a new fan ? Moron. 3. MVP is a better wrestler than Matt Hardy, and is not lame. |
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