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Post by carola on Jul 28, 2007 11:40:30 GMT -5
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Post by Adam3s - V1 on Jul 28, 2007 12:28:24 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't think that this was caused by steroids??? His murders and eventual suicide seems to have been cold, calculated and possibly planned. Roid rage does not allow you that kind of control of anything you do. I think Chris Benoit had some deeply seeded mental problems that were never detected until they manifested "themselves" (for lack of a better term) in those horrific acts. Are you on glue? Do you know anything at all about steroid use and roid rage? It`s is a mental condition similar to Psychotism. Extensive steriod use causes deep rooted depression which would allow anyone to calculate a killing spree. Do you think roid rage is a 5 min blackout period that you return to normal after it`s done? No, roid rage is not a blackout period it is depression. So before all you sherlock`s go and say you know, stop because you don`t know ****. All you guys hear is myth`s like they shrink your dink and stuff like that and thats what you believe. take it from a former steriod user. I used steriods for 4 years playing football and i know all about the depression and how steriods usually lead to self destructive behavior and can cause you to be sterile not shrink anything. I agree 100% with billington that benoit over did as soon as he took even one of those pills. and yes i too am glad he`s dead and i wish the same on any other WWE wrestlers that are on steriods. I really wish benoit`s death was due to a heart attack before he had the chance to kill anyone!!! Wait so if the is a wrestler in the WWE that is taking steriods but hasn't harmed anyone except themselves, you wish death upon them? That's just wrong on many levels. |
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Post by Reddevilbigevil on Jul 28, 2007 12:45:39 GMT -5
Are you on glue? Do you know anything at all about steroid use and roid rage? It`s is a mental condition similar to Psychotism. Extensive steriod use causes deep rooted depression which would allow anyone to calculate a killing spree. Do you think roid rage is a 5 min blackout period that you return to normal after it`s done? No, roid rage is not a blackout period it is depression. So before all you sherlock`s go and say you know, stop because you don`t know ****. All you guys hear is myth`s like they shrink your dink and stuff like that and thats what you believe. take it from a former steriod user. I used steriods for 4 years playing football and i know all about the depression and how steriods usually lead to self destructive behavior and can cause you to be sterile not shrink anything. I agree 100% with billington that benoit over did as soon as he took even one of those pills. and yes i too am glad he`s dead and i wish the same on any other WWE wrestlers that are on steriods. I really wish benoit`s death was due to a heart attack before he had the chance to kill anyone!!! Wait so if the is a wrestler in the WWE that is taking steriods but hasn't harmed anyone except themselves, you wish death upon them? That's just wrong on many levels. What I`m saying is I wish death on any superstar who is on the steriods before they have the chance to harm anyone else. The rage is inevitible, theres no stopping it when you use to the extent that these athletes are using. The only way to stop it is to stop doing the drugs before they have a chance to ruin their lives or anyone elses for that matter. So in escense I`m sorry you feel I`m wrong in thinking of the wrestlers families before the wrestlers themselves. Trust me when I say this, steriods affects everyone around the user, in a big way. |
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Post by Adam3s - V1 on Jul 28, 2007 13:07:04 GMT -5
Wait so if the is a wrestler in the WWE that is taking steriods but hasn't harmed anyone except themselves, you wish death upon them? That's just wrong on many levels. What I`m saying is I wish death on any superstar who is on the steriods before they have the chance to harm anyone else. The rage is inevitible, theres no stopping it when you use to the extent that these athletes are using. The only way to stop it is to stop doing the drugs before they have a chance to ruin their lives or anyone elses for that matter. So in escense I`m sorry you feel I`m wrong in thinking of the wrestlers families before the wrestlers themselves. Trust me when I say this, steriods affects everyone around the user, in a big way. I understand that you would prefer the wrestler to die before they have the chance to harm their family like Benoit did but I still think it is wrong to wish death upon someone just for taking steroids. Just hope for them to sort themselves out and get help, not death. If someone is mentally ill and could harm people, I'd want them to seek help not just kill themselves because they have the chance to kill someone later. (Bit like the Minority Report.) |
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Post by Reddevilbigevil on Jul 28, 2007 13:10:15 GMT -5
What I`m saying is I wish death on any superstar who is on the steriods before they have the chance to harm anyone else. The rage is inevitible, theres no stopping it when you use to the extent that these athletes are using. The only way to stop it is to stop doing the drugs before they have a chance to ruin their lives or anyone elses for that matter. So in escense I`m sorry you feel I`m wrong in thinking of the wrestlers families before the wrestlers themselves. Trust me when I say this, steriods affects everyone around the user, in a big way. I understand that you would prefer the wrestler to die before they have the chance to harm their family like Benoit did but I still think it is wrong to wish death upon someone just for taking steroids. Just hope for them to sort themselves out and get help, not death. If someone is mentally ill and could harm people, I'd want them to seek help not just kill themselves because they have the chance to kill someone later. (Bit like the Minority Report.) I understand where you are coming from totally but it`s not like theres a 12 step program for performance enhancing drugs. These wrestlers will not stop doing them they`ll just find new creative ways around the WWE drug programs as they have in the past. All these guys on dope need drug councelling or rehab. it`s that simple. like i said earlier the rage is inevitible, it`s going to manifest itself at some point. Unfortunately Beniot was past that point when he did what he did but my main concerns are the families of these other guys who are still doing it.. |
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Post by Adam3s - V1 on Jul 28, 2007 13:17:08 GMT -5
I understand that you would prefer the wrestler to die before they have the chance to harm their family like Benoit did but I still think it is wrong to wish death upon someone just for taking steroids. Just hope for them to sort themselves out and get help, not death. If someone is mentally ill and could harm people, I'd want them to seek help not just kill themselves because they have the chance to kill someone later. (Bit like the Minority Report.) I understand where you are coming from totally but it`s not like theres a 12 step program for performance enhancing drugs. These wrestlers will not stop doing them they`ll just find new creative ways around the WWE I think we can both see were the other is coming from, but niether one of us will fully agree with the other. Lets just hope some wrestlers get their heads in gear and Vince really thightens up after the whole Benoit situation. Anyway, I gotta say I agree with what Dynamtie Kid had to say, I don't know how much of it is true but it really is sad with Benoit, were he wouldn't even listen to his idol. |
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Post by Reddevilbigevil on Jul 28, 2007 13:25:32 GMT -5
I understand where you are coming from totally but it`s not like theres a 12 step program for performance enhancing drugs. These wrestlers will not stop doing them they`ll just find new creative ways around the WWE I think we can both see were the other is coming from, but niether one of us will fully agree with the other. Lets just hope some wrestlers get their heads in gear and Vince really thightens up after the whole Benoit situation. Anyway, I gotta say I agree with what Dynamtie Kid had to say, I don't know how much of it is true but it really is sad with Benoit, were he wouldn't even listen to his idol. OK maybe wishing death is a little harsh, but how do you help someone who doesn`t want to be helped? or can`t be helped because of a grueling wrestling schedule. I`ve been there I`ve seen through my own eyes what it can do to a person. We do agree but my head is just somewhere else right now. |
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Post by Adam3s - V1 on Jul 28, 2007 13:27:38 GMT -5
I think we can both see were the other is coming from, but niether one of us will fully agree with the other. Lets just hope some wrestlers get their heads in gear and Vince really thightens up after the whole Benoit situation. Anyway, I gotta say I agree with what Dynamtie Kid had to say, I don't know how much of it is true but it really is sad with Benoit, were he wouldn't even listen to his idol. OK maybe wishing death is a little harsh, but how do you help someone who doesn`t want to be helped? or can`t be helped because of a grueling wrestling schedule. I`ve been there I`ve seen through my own eyes what it can do to a person. We do agree but my head is just somewhere else right now. Vince could always give them the ultimatum or either going to rehab or being fired, that might help the matter. Now if only TNA and the indies cared about steriod use. |
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Post by Reddevilbigevil on Jul 28, 2007 13:40:43 GMT -5
OK maybe wishing death is a little harsh, but how do you help someone who doesn`t want to be helped? or can`t be helped because of a grueling wrestling schedule. I`ve been there I`ve seen through my own eyes what it can do to a person. We do agree but my head is just somewhere else right now. Vince could always give them the ultimatum or either going to rehab or being fired, that might help the matter. Now if only TNA and the indies cared about steriod use. Vince only seems like he cares because of the U.S. media. If the whole benoit thing didn`t happen and the entire WWE roster was on juice, it`s just another 100 million dollar year to Vince. and yes more promotion need to have drug policies. Even if wrestlers don`t die while working for the company the long term effects will get them in the end. I believe that steriods were a major factor among many wrestlers who commit siucide due to depression from using. I don`t have proof of this but it`s my opinion. what my whole point is that Benoit was mentally sick from depression from doing the drugs and 100% in all likely hood could have been able to calculate and premeditate the murders and then kill himself. Who in their RIGHT MIND would do that??? It`s nice to have a debate with a normal person for a change. Thanks man!!  |
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Post by bleedwrestling on Jul 28, 2007 13:57:31 GMT -5
no body can be sure y benoit did what he did weither because of steroids or an illness of his own but what he did was diffenetly wrong on any level but i would go as far as to say benoit diffently was not himself when this all happened i mean he was drinking a lot also i am in no way justifying his actions but am saying he was not himself and no one really knows what was going except for him and probably his wife and since there both dead everything you hear is peoples opinions on what they think happened there is no evidence to tell what was really going on in his head.But I do agree with billington that he over did it and should have known his limits when taking steroids and knowing when to say enough.
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Post by Mirror Images on Jul 28, 2007 14:34:25 GMT -5
I think the anger Dynamite is feeling towards Benoit is the betral of trust and friendship. The fact that Benoit selfishly ended the life of an innocent little boy and his own wife makes it difficult to have any positive thoughts about Benoit.
I think steroids or no steroids Benoit is going to be rememberd as a killer and nothing else. The reason why he was killer wont ever be clear.
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Post by Reddevilbigevil on Jul 28, 2007 14:34:47 GMT -5
no body can be sure y benoit did what he did weither because of steroids or an illness of his own but what he did was diffenetly wrong on any level but i would go as far as to say benoit diffently was not himself when this all happened i mean he was drinking a lot also i am in no way justifying his actions but am saying he was not himself and no one really knows what was going except for him and probably his wife and since there both dead everything you hear is peoples opinions on what they think happened there is no evidence to tell what was really going on in his head.But I do agree with billington that he over did it and should have known his limits when taking steroids and knowing when to say enough. there should be no saying "when" with steriods, it should just not be done in the firt place. LOL Theres no such thing as responsible steroid use. I`m bigger now with proper eating habits and training than I was when i was on juice playing football 10 years ago. If I can do it naturally, so can they. It`s laziness on the wrestlers part, they do roids to keep size and go and party instead of having a proper exercise regimine. To sum it all up it`s bad habits thats causing the deaths in young wrestlers. |
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Post by Boquest on Jul 28, 2007 15:17:01 GMT -5
IMO, nobody has a right to decide who should live or die...
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Post by christian1cage on Jul 28, 2007 15:19:47 GMT -5
"I'M GLAD HE'S DEAD" |
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Post by pstdrk on Jul 28, 2007 16:38:52 GMT -5
a lot of people use tons of drugs, i done almost every "hard" drug known and i never wanted to hurt anyone just wanted to chill.. good words by tom even if the roid rage thing is wrong. i do think there was more then meets the eye(lol). no1 should try to say benoit is a hero,legend,HoFer, he is just a murderer.
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Post by BigDaddyChacon on Jul 28, 2007 17:36:17 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't think that this was caused by steroids??? His murders and eventual suicide seems to have been cold, calculated and possibly planned. Roid rage does not allow you that kind of control of anything you do. I think Chris Benoit had some deeply seeded mental problems that were never detected until they manifested "themselves" (for lack of a better term) in those horrific acts. I feel the same way. |
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Post by hulkhogancollector on Jul 29, 2007 1:20:36 GMT -5
I understand that you would prefer the wrestler to die before they have the chance to harm their family like Benoit did but I still think it is wrong to wish death upon someone just for taking steroids. Just hope for them to sort themselves out and get help, not death. If someone is mentally ill and could harm people, I'd want them to seek help not just kill themselves because they have the chance to kill someone later. (Bit like the Minority Report.) I understand where you are coming from totally but it`s not like theres a 12 step program for performance enhancing drugs. These wrestlers will not stop doing them they`ll just find new creative ways around the WWE drug programs as they have in the past. All these guys on dope need drug councelling or rehab. it`s that simple. like i said earlier the rage is inevitible, it`s going to manifest itself at some point. Unfortunately Beniot was past that point when he did what he did but my main concerns are the families of these other guys who are still doing it.. I agree with what Dynamite said. I have a son, daughter and a wife what Beniot did was just plain disgusting. If he wanted to kill himself fine go ahead but to kill your family?? What is even more warped was seeing many wrestling fans making him out to be a Legend and Hero. He might have been great in the ring, but he is no hero. |
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Post by Great White Shark on Jul 29, 2007 4:07:22 GMT -5
I too am glad he's dead and anyone who thinks different should question their integrity.
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Post by opportunist on Jul 29, 2007 4:13:51 GMT -5
How did 2 drugs become a "a laundry list" and testosterone become steroids? Just what the hell do you think testosterone is but a steroid? |
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Post by The UndyTaker on Jul 29, 2007 5:15:00 GMT -5
How come no one has seen, heard, nor been able to find Dynamite in years, but all of a sudden some tabloid has an interview AND pic of him in his wheelchair?! Doesn't anyone else find that strange?
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