Nirvana is Happiness
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Post by Nirvana is Happiness on Sept 15, 2007 18:54:45 GMT -5
Watch Misawa vs. Kawada from either 03 or 04, cant remeber the year, but they had one hell of an awesome match. They went out and wrestled, and in Japan wrestling is wrestling.
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Post by (=wwefan617=) on Sept 16, 2007 12:10:46 GMT -5
this is a good point. im glad someone brought htis up. we need a ppv stealer. wwe needs some1 who will put thier body on the line. i totally agree with this.
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Post by recklessmatten on Sept 16, 2007 13:23:02 GMT -5
i say John Cena needs balls.
example ECW ONS2
Edge Spearing him through table but Edge's shoulder went through not Cena.
Example.....
i could go on
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Post by 1lgith on Sept 16, 2007 13:36:28 GMT -5
Of all the big bumps I've seen in the last few years, the only one I remember that actually made a holy crapmoment was Jeff Hardy at Bound for Glory 2005 in the Monster's Ball Match. That was the most amazing thing I have ever seen as far as bumps but of course Foley's Hell in a Cell one is first that is second in my opinion.
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Post by LeighD on Sept 16, 2007 13:45:17 GMT -5
this is a good point. im glad someone brought htis up. we need a ppv stealer. wwe needs some1 who will put thier body on the line. i totally agree with this. Spoken like a true 13 year-old idiot. Your statement is probably one of the most insane opinions. Wrestlers already put their bodies on the line. They don't need to risk paralysis or even death just so you can have a minute of excitement.
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Post by dangerpeanut on Sept 16, 2007 16:20:34 GMT -5
i say John Cena needs balls. example ECW ONS2 Edge Spearing him through table but Edge's shoulder went through not Cena. Example..... i could go on I completely agree. As an Edge fan I was SO pissed when I saw that. Edge, who has had neck surgery and is not supposed to be taking bumps like that, goes thru the table to protect Cena's pansy *ss.
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flying-shorty
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Joined on: Jul 12, 2005 8:30:30 GMT -5
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Post by flying-shorty on Sept 16, 2007 16:26:52 GMT -5
I kno wot u mean...interestingly u never see guys like HHH takin huge bumps unless theres a matress to fall on! Throughout any of his epic battles with Foley, Mick wud chuck a loud of tacks everywhere ready to slam HHH, sadly u always knew it wud be Foley going head first into them not H. But I dont think wrestling should be about huge bumps. I mean the occasional one fair enough, but if the wrestling is good enough to start off with then that should surpass. I think its easy sometimes to cover up a bad set of wrestling moves by jumping off a ladder into a pile of tables.
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Post by mrchase on Sept 16, 2007 16:43:40 GMT -5
I hate fans like yourself. You feel that wrestlers need to do crazy, insane spot-fests to be entertaining. You need guys to be thrown off of the HIAC like Mankind, or fall off the titan tron like Shane McMahon. But its never enough, is it? Fans like yourself need a bigger and better stunts/spots every time. And People wonder why wrestlers become addicted to painkillers. They need them in order to go out and perform crazy-ass bumps to meet your expectations. No wrestlers don't need to grow a pair a set because why the hell would they risk their lives for you to get your jollies off? hell they risk their lives enough just doing stuff in the ring let alone falling from titan trons, the Cell, or staging. And for those people saying we need these spots, not we don't. WWE needs more intelligent storylines, more intriguing angles, and more diverse matches instead of the crappy cookie cutter matches we see day-in, day-out. I don't think he was saying big bumps all the time, just once in a while during a big match to keep things fresh. You have to admit that summerslam 07' was the worst in the 20 year history of them. That Cena Orton match was pathetic. you most be crazy & not know what real pro-wrestling in suppose to look like .The Cena Orton match was how it is suppose to be done. that match had great story line & had me on the edge of my seat threw the whole match. the told a story during that match .the but on one of show for me.if you think the was the worst summerslam then you have seen all the summerslams. go back to early/mid 90's.
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Post by therichisamazing on Sept 16, 2007 18:29:12 GMT -5
I hate fans like yourself. You feel that wrestlers need to do crazy, insane spot-fests to be entertaining. You need guys to be thrown off of the HIAC like Mankind, or fall off the titan tron like Shane McMahon. But its never enough, is it? Fans like yourself need a bigger and better stunts/spots every time. And People wonder why wrestlers become addicted to painkillers. They need them in order to go out and perform crazy-ass bumps to meet your expectations. No wrestlers don't need to grow a pair a set because why the hell would they risk their lives for you to get your jollies off? hell they risk their lives enough just doing stuff in the ring let alone falling from titan trons, the Cell, or staging. And for those people saying we need these spots, not we don't. WWE needs more intelligent storylines, more intriguing angles, and more diverse matches instead of the crappy cookie cutter matches we see day-in, day-out. I don't think he was saying big bumps all the time, just once in a while during a big match to keep things fresh. You have to admit that summerslam 07' was the worst in the 20 year history of them. That Cena Orton match was pathetic. I'm going to disagree with you on the Summerslam comment. I thought The Cena/Orton match had a big match feel and came off really good with exception of the ending (shoulda been Orton) and if you wanna talk about terrible Summerslams look back at your history before spouting off BS Summerslam 93 was terrible and really the first few are only good to me becuz of the nostaglia of the wrestlers involved not really the wrestling or the storylines
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Sept 16, 2007 20:56:41 GMT -5
I hate fans like yourself. You feel that wrestlers need to do crazy, insane spot-fests to be entertaining. You need guys to be thrown off of the HIAC like Mankind, or fall off the titan tron like Shane McMahon. But its never enough, is it? Fans like yourself need a bigger and better stunts/spots every time. And People wonder why wrestlers become addicted to painkillers. They need them in order to go out and perform crazy-ass bumps to meet your expectations. No wrestlers don't need to grow a pair a set because why the hell would they risk their lives for you to get your jollies off? hell they risk their lives enough just doing stuff in the ring let alone falling from titan trons, the Cell, or staging. And for those people saying we need these spots, not we don't. WWE needs more intelligent storylines, more intriguing angles, and more diverse matches instead of the crappy cookie cutter matches we see day-in, day-out. I don't think he was saying big bumps all the time, just once in a while during a big match to keep things fresh. You have to admit that summerslam 07' was the worst in the 20 year history of them. That Cena Orton match was pathetic. I thought Cena/Orton at this years SummerSlam was a damn good match. That match had me on the edge of my seat.
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Post by mercennario1080 on Sept 16, 2007 21:54:03 GMT -5
Spot wrestling is good occasionally, but expecting them to risk they're lives for your entertainment is crazy. Spot wrestling is extremely over-rated if you ask me. Where would Jeff or Jack Evans be without spot wrestling? Nowhere, because that is the only talent they have. You can't compare Jack Evans with Jeff Hardy. Greatness beats drugs.
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Post by drippy on Sept 16, 2007 22:27:29 GMT -5
HBK still does all the crazy stuff. He is approximately 57 years old and still bumps. So, be happy.
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Sept 17, 2007 1:16:14 GMT -5
i say John Cena needs balls. example ECW ONS2 Edge Spearing him through table but Edge's shoulder went through not Cena. Example..... i could go on I completely agree. As an Edge fan I was SO pissed when I saw that. Edge, who has had neck surgery and is not supposed to be taking bumps like that, goes thru the table to protect Cena's pansy *ss. Blame Edge. Edge speared him in a wrong place. Cena fell straight back, as he should of.
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Post by xbonex80 on Sept 17, 2007 2:06:12 GMT -5
I know what he means...
They want to tone it down and keep the wrestlers safe... But we still get moderate bumps with MITB and some ladder, cage matches... I think this is a part of a plan... They are trying to put credibility back into moves like a DDT , or Powerslam and its the same with spots... The less spots we see now the more special they will seem in a few years.
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Post by xbonex80 on Sept 17, 2007 2:07:44 GMT -5
i say John Cena needs balls. example ECW ONS2 Edge Spearing him through table but Edge's shoulder went through not Cena. Example..... i could go on I completely agree. As an Edge fan I was SO pissed when I saw that. Edge, who has had neck surgery and is not supposed to be taking bumps like that, goes thru the table to protect Cena's pansy *ss. as if we knew Cena told Edge before the match: "oh yeah on the table bump can you take the hit for me? dont wanna get hurt ya know " -_-
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Sept 17, 2007 3:08:09 GMT -5
Spot wrestling is good occasionally, but expecting them to risk they're lives for your entertainment is crazy. Spot wrestling is extremely over-rated if you ask me. Where would Jeff or Jack Evans be without spot wrestling? Nowhere, because that is the only talent they have. You can't compare Jack Evans with Jeff Hardy. Greatness beats drugs. They both get high...
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Post by carly1988 on Sept 17, 2007 6:33:43 GMT -5
you need to watch the X games or something not wrestling....."big bumps" and "spotfests" is what ruined Wrestling. Ill take a 60 min wrestling classic between Flair and Race before id watch 15 mins of J. Hardy vs S. McMahon spotfest
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