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Post by tnafan4life on Sept 19, 2007 8:36:43 GMT -5
Source: F4Wonline.com
- At this point, there are no plans for a Shawn Michaels return. When HBK originally went down with his injury, everyone thought he would be back by November. Sources say HBK is content with his career at this time and is enjoying time at home with his family. Michaels has given indications that he isn't in a hurry to return to action and some believe that Triple H took him down to OVW last week to try and get the business back into his blood again. If Shawn does return this fall, look for him to be thrown into a feud with Randy Orton which make sense because when Shawn had to take time off for knee surgery, the storyline went with Orton putting him out with a concussion.
- Kristal may be moved over to the RAW brand soon as her and Bobby Lashley are really dating off camera.
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Source: F4Wonline.com
- The Great Khali's translator, Dave Kapoor, doesn't want to work a full road schedule for WWE so they're looking for as new handler for Khali. RAW referee Marty Elias used to travel with Khali all the time and help him out with some things, so he may be switched over to the SmackDown brand.
- WWE is working on a new subscription based website which may break sometime in 2008. No word on specific details yet, but they're planning on doing a lot of hiring in the next few months and the company has opened an office twenty miles north of Stamford, CT to focus on the new project, so their are big plans for the new venture.
- Chris Jericho still hasn't signed with WWE or TNA. The belief within WWE is that he will be back sometime in October. A lot of factors surrounding his return is said to depend on how his book sales do.
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Source: F4Wonline.com
- WWE are beginning to discuss people for the 2008 Hall of Fame. The company really wants Ric Flair to participate but the two sides are still on the outs. We posted last week on the proposed storyline that would see Flair flip out on TV and declare he would retire if he lost one more match, then win a series of matches leading up to WrestleMania where he would be inducted into the Hall of Fame the night before. Obviously that would create the problem of having Flair beat some big names on all three brands, so the idea was to say that DQ and COR losses wouldn't count against Flair. Obviously the whole Ric Flair situation is still up in the air so other names being tossed around are the Von Erichs, Bob Uecker, Mae Young, Ted DiBiase, Gordon Solie and Rick Rude. Sources say there is an ongoing joke where every year, Howard Finkle is suggested for the HoF, only to be told by Vince McMahon and Kevin Dunn, "maybe next year" just to mess with him.
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Source - PWInsider
- Earlier it was reported that WWE creative team member Ed Koskey appeared on RAW last night as Hornswoggle’s “would-be” father. This was not the case, but his last name was used in the segment.
- The sixth season of Smallville was released on DVD today. This season includes the episode that included Ashley Massaro and Kane as guest stars.
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Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter
There is still no official word on Ric Flair's situation with World Wrestling Entertainment. Flair is neither back, nor gone. He has avoided talking publicly about the issue, just saying that he hasn't quit. He is telling his close friends that he is not at liberty to talk about the situation until it is worked out. The only people aware of any problems are the top WWE executives, Flair, his wife, and his lawyer. All parties are keeping things quiet until the issues are worked out as if he is saying or going. Right now Flair is really concentrated on getting his finance company started. He has always said that when he does retire from pro wrestling, that's it. Unlike his former Four Horsemen colleagues, Flair has said that he will not return to the company as a road agent or executive as when he is finished as an on-air talent he is walking away from the business for good.
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Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter
WWE has given the O.K. for a developmental territory in the United Kingdom. Right now, plans are to have the territory similar to Ohio Valley Wrestling and Florida Championship Wrestling.
K.C. James recently worked a dark match with Jimmy Wang Yang prior to last week's SmackDown/ECW tapings. James has a brief stint in WWE last year with tag team partner Idol Stevens. He is currently working in Ohio Valley Wrestling as Cassidy O'Reilly's tag team partner.
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I got all this from PWHeadlines who sourced a few of their own sources which I left just like they was. I wanted to put all the news I read together in one big post. So, hope you enjoy all the news. I must say the Hall Of Fame isn't look that amazing in my opinion so far atleast.
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Post by Lebowski on Sept 19, 2007 8:53:22 GMT -5
Nice Post.
What I don't get is why they have to induct so many people every year. Why cant they have three or a maximum of four people per year?
Inducting so many people just means that they'll be scraping the bottom of the barrel in a short time (that is unless of course you consider William Perry a true WWE Hall Of Famer.. and Pete Rose.. Pfft..).
I think Fink should be Inducted.
I hope Shawn Michaels doesn't return. The sooner him and Triple H retire permanently, the sooner we can begin to evolve the wrestling scene.
A UK OVW is terrible news for everyone. A this rate, WWE will control the entire world of wrestling. Everyone's style will be the same and storylines everywhere will be similar. If they begin to open these promotions worldwide, wrestling really will turn into a thing thats only for kids.
I quite like the idea of Ric Flair going over on all of the top stars until WrestleMania. He could start at the jobber section, work up to mid card and then progress into the main eventers. In order to make it more credible, they could just avoid putting him in the ring with Lashley and Cena, and have the likes of Undertaker "Injured" or not 100% during his match with Flair, which would give a logical reason as to why Flair got the victory.
The other stories don't really bother or affect me.
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Sept 19, 2007 8:54:18 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels better come back. I'm holding off giving up completely on WWE for the simple fact that he's coming back. If he doesn't return, I may be done with WWE. I hope Shawn Michaels doesn't return. The sooner him and Triple H retire permanently, the sooner we can begin to evolve the wrestling scene. Do you have any idea how completely intellectually- disabled you sound? "Yeah, I don't like HHH and Shawn Michaels. I hope they retire. I don't really care if they've had some of the best feuds since 2002, and that they pretty much carried RAW during Cena's title reign. Doesn't matter that they put on pretty much all five-star matches, with a few small exceptions. I don't like them. I hope they retire." Moron.
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Post by tnafan4life on Sept 19, 2007 8:59:27 GMT -5
I'm a big Shawn Michaels fan but I gotta say I think it's time to hang it up. I mean, he's had so many injurys & I know it happens but Shawn has his knees & back hurt so I think he should just call it a day basically or have a Hogan schedule return for a big match (ala Michaels/Rock). Then you think about his kids who are 7 & 3 I believe you know they want to be able to run away with their dad & play outside stuff like that. I know he knew what he was signing up for but still. I think it's best for him & his family to hang 'em up.
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Post by [MJH] on Sept 19, 2007 9:08:05 GMT -5
I like the idea of a UK OVW because atm in England it's quite hard to get into a well paying wrestling career.
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Post by Lebowski on Sept 19, 2007 9:08:11 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels better come back. I'm holding off giving up completely on WWE for the simple fact that he's coming back. If he doesn't return, I may be done with WWE. I hope Shawn Michaels doesn't return. The sooner him and Triple H retire permanently, the sooner we can begin to evolve the wrestling scene. Do you have any idea how completely intellectually- disabled you sound? "Yeah, I don't like HHH and Shawn Michaels. I hope they retire. I don't really care if they've had some of the best feuds since 2002, and that they pretty much carried RAW during Cena's title reign. Doesn't matter that they put on pretty much all five-star matches, with a few small exceptions. I don't like them. I hope they retire." Moron. When did i say that? Also, burying the roster week in, week out doesn't do anyone any good (except Triple H and Shawn Michaels, of course). Triple H is a has been. Why no one else wants to admit that is beyond me. That goes for Shawn Michaels, too. I don't mind people like Flair or Kane staying around, because they know how the business works. They get jobbed out to the up and coming stars in order to get people over. Triple H doesn't do that. He singlehandedly slaughters everyone that stands in his way. He annihilates his opponents. What good is that for long term wrestling? If he gets another leg injury then he is gone for good, so he doesn't get to job out to people (not like he would anyway). Shawn Michaels is the same. OK, Fair enough, Shawn does to the job every now and again, but when he goes down for the three count, its always a case of I nearly had you, You were lucky and he is always the star of the match. if he is going to lose then he has to get busted open and bleed everywhere, or jump off ladders or through tables or anything to get the attention. Then he stays in the ring after the winner leaves so he can have a standing ovation. Quite frankly, Twenty years of Shawn Michaels is more than enough for me. As for Triple H.. well.. The same match over, and over, and over again, burying people like theres no tomorrow.. well.. it doesn't really appeal to me. The problem with you, and most of this board is that you have become to attached to Triple H and Shawn Michaels. You're too used to seeing him come out of the titantron and start kicking ass... I just find it boring and embarrassing.
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Sept 19, 2007 9:24:47 GMT -5
Sounds like someone's just jealous because Kane isn't Shawn Michaels.
For you to say that HBK and HHH don't know how the business works is laughable. That statement alone was enough for me to not take you seriously.
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Post by Sexy White Chocolate on Sept 19, 2007 9:28:38 GMT -5
you make a lot of good points yet still i liker shawn michaels as a performer. triple h while good has never been anywhere near my top 10
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Post by hardyz on Sept 19, 2007 9:34:55 GMT -5
I knew Michaels would not come back. He is a shoe in HoF man. I could care less about Blaster Lashley and Kristal. Or Marty E for that matter. I hope Jericho returns to WWE. I would stop watching TNA if Chris went there.
I hope Naitch stays away. He should think about himself now. He is close to 60 and that is crazy to still wrestle.
HoF is going to be garbage this year I think.
INDUCT SCOTT HALL!
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Post by STOMWIJF on Sept 19, 2007 9:34:56 GMT -5
I agree with "Kane Killed Vince" for the most part. Both HHH and HBK (and The Undertaker btw) have had stellar careers, but it's really time for them to step out off the stoplight in favor of the younger wrestlers. Both are prone to injury and have been wrestling for two decades or so. They need to job to the up-and-commers more often to get them over. They hog the soptlight too much. In a few years time they'll probably so badly injured that they cannot do that anymore. Right now there is not enough build up for newer talent.
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Post by Lebowski on Sept 19, 2007 9:38:51 GMT -5
But they don't know how the business works.
Well, to correct myself, they do know how it works, but they refuse to be professional, and instead are selfish.
Also, in regards to
Yeah, you nailed it right on there.
If Kane was a glory hog and a selfish attention seeker, then I wouldn't be a Kane fan.
Wow.. you got me there...
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Post by Lebowski on Sept 19, 2007 9:44:42 GMT -5
I agree with "Kane Killed Vince" for the most part. Both HHH and HBK (and The Undertaker btw) have had stellar careers, but it's really time for them to step out off the stoplight in favor of the younger wrestlers. Both are prone to injury and have been wrestling for two decades or so. They need to job to the up-and-commers more often to get them over. They hog the soptlight too much. In a few years time they'll probably so badly injured that they cannot do that anymore. Right now there is not enough build up for newer talent. Yeah I forgot about 'Taker. Although he doesn't bother me too much because he is going over on Khali, Batista, Henry etc. and i don't consider them to be up and coming talents. I reckon in a few years they will all be forgotten about. I Don't mind 'Taker either because he at least jobbed out to Edge, and i hope he does so again in future. His WrestleMania winning streak is getting a little cartoonish though. Although i fully agree with your point, he needs to step down. There are a lot of wrestlers that should strongly consider retirement. Also, just to note, i Havent seen much of taker recently, so i don't know if he has been burying people left right and centre or not. But if so, then what i said about HHH and HBK also would apply to him.
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Post by tnafan4life on Sept 19, 2007 9:52:24 GMT -5
But they don't know how the business works. Well, to correct myself, they do know how it works, but they refuse to be professional, and instead are selfish. Also, in regards to Yeah, you nailed it right on there. If Kane was a glory hog and a selfish attention seeker, then I wouldn't be a Kane fan. Wow.. you got me there... How is Shawn Michaels a "glory hog". You can't say he doesn't put guys over. Here are his PPV records.. 2007: 1 Draw 4 Lose 2 Win 2006: 3 Lose 5 Win (My Note: His wins started going back up when D-X returned..) 2005: 6 Lose (He was in 2 matches in Rumble) 3 Win I'm going to start there. So, saying Michals doesn't put anyone over is just stupid. Since 2005 he's put 13 people on PPV. If he didn't want to put anyone over he sure wouldn't have put them over on PPV. Notice how in '05 he only one 3 PPV matches & then in 2006 in 8 PPV matches he won FIVE of them in the year DX came back.. who's his partner? Triple H. Then in 2007 he had one draw (NYR 2007 when HHH got hurt) & after Triple H left he only one two matches out of 7.. I'm not saying it's Triple H.. but.. the numbers are there.
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Post by randyorton9 on Sept 19, 2007 10:07:15 GMT -5
Please come back HBK
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Post by Lebowski on Sept 19, 2007 10:15:41 GMT -5
But they don't know how the business works. Well, to correct myself, they do know how it works, but they refuse to be professional, and instead are selfish. Also, in regards to Yeah, you nailed it right on there. If Kane was a glory hog and a selfish attention seeker, then I wouldn't be a Kane fan. Wow.. you got me there... How is Shawn Michaels a "glory hog". You can't say he doesn't put guys over. Here are his PPV records.. 2007: 1 Draw 4 Lose 2 Win 2006: 3 Lose 5 Win (My Note: His wins started going back up when D-X returned..) 2005: 6 Lose (He was in 2 matches in Rumble) 3 Win I'm going to start there. So, saying Michals doesn't put anyone over is just stupid. Since 2005 he's put 13 people on PPV. If he didn't want to put anyone over he sure wouldn't have put them over on PPV. Notice how in '05 he only one 3 PPV matches & then in 2006 in 8 PPV matches he won FIVE of them in the year DX came back.. who's his partner? Triple H. Then in 2007 he had one draw (NYR 2007 when HHH got hurt) & after Triple H left he only one two matches out of 7.. I'm not saying it's Triple H.. but.. the numbers are there. Understandable and i see your point. But as i said, when he does job out to people, the spotlight is always on him. Anyway, as usual n these forums, everyone has, and is entitled to, their own opinion. I backed up my points with my thoughts. So thats good enough for me. Take care now
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Post by tnafan4life on Sept 19, 2007 10:17:05 GMT -5
How is Shawn Michaels a "glory hog". You can't say he doesn't put guys over. Here are his PPV records.. 2007: 1 Draw 4 Lose 2 Win 2006: 3 Lose 5 Win (My Note: His wins started going back up when D-X returned..) 2005: 6 Lose (He was in 2 matches in Rumble) 3 Win I'm going to start there. So, saying Michals doesn't put anyone over is just stupid. Since 2005 he's put 13 people on PPV. If he didn't want to put anyone over he sure wouldn't have put them over on PPV. Notice how in '05 he only one 3 PPV matches & then in 2006 in 8 PPV matches he won FIVE of them in the year DX came back.. who's his partner? Triple H. Then in 2007 he had one draw (NYR 2007 when HHH got hurt) & after Triple H left he only one two matches out of 7.. I'm not saying it's Triple H.. but.. the numbers are there. Understandable and i see your point. But as i said, when he does job out to people, the spotlight is always on him.Anyway, as usual n these forums, everyone has, and is entitled to, their own opinion. I backed up my points with my thoughts. So thats good enough for me. Take care now How is the spotlight on him? If it is how has he not earned it? The guy is a LEGEND & it's quite obvious you don't even respect him for all he's done because all you're doing is running him down.
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Post by Chip on Sept 19, 2007 11:11:36 GMT -5
I quite like the idea of Ric Flair going over on all of the top stars until WrestleMania. He could start at the jobber section, work up to mid card and then progress into the main eventers. In order to make it more credible, they could just avoid putting him in the ring with Lashley and Cena, and have the likes of Undertaker "Injured" or not 100% during his match with Flair, which would give a logical reason as to why Flair got the victory. quote] Flair does not have to "start from scratch" he is RIC F*ING FLAIR. he is the greatest of all time. he should come back...win the belt from Batista in his return match...and hold it until mania where he passes the torch to the next big star...whoever they may find. and go out on top of the world that HE created. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Sept 19, 2007 11:13:03 GMT -5
Just give Khali back to Daivari so they can reunite the greatest trio of traveling buddies EVER.
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Post by Lebowski on Sept 19, 2007 11:19:46 GMT -5
Of course i respect him. what would make you think i dont?
Having respect for what he done, and commenting on where he is now are two different things. Shawn Michaels' has been hanging around for too long. I've seen too much of him to enjoy him any more.
I mean if they were to have him go over people until wrestlemania he would have to start at the bottom of the roster. its too long until wrestelmania, so if he started going over the main eventers he'd be in the same feud over and over as there aren't that many main eventers on the cards. If he were to start with the main eventers he would have to either get in long drawn out feuds with them and go over on them, or he would have to wrestle each main evennter a few times to fill the gap until Mania. Both of those options would hurt the wrestlers he is beating. If he started going over on a new person every week, and started from the bottom of the roster, then by the time he reached the main eventers, wrestlemania would be pretty close.
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Post by tnafan4life on Sept 19, 2007 11:24:26 GMT -5
Of course i respect him. what would make you think i dont? Having respect for what he done, and commenting on where he is now are two different things. Shawn Michaels' has been hanging around for too long. I've seen too much of him to enjoy him any more.I mean if they were to have him go over people until wrestlemania he would have to start at the bottom of the roster. its too long until wrestelmania, so if he started going over the main eventers he'd be in the same feud over and over as there aren't that many main eventers on the cards. If he were to start with the main eventers he would have to either get in long drawn out feuds with them and go over on them, or he would have to wrestle each main evennter a few times to fill the gap until Mania. Both of those options would hurt the wrestlers he is beating. If he started going over on a new person every week, and started from the bottom of the roster, then by the time he reached the main eventers, wrestlemania would be pretty close. It's quite easy to sit here & so "So & so should retire" when you're a fan isn't it? You didn't make a life out of this business, you didn't feed your family with this business, it's not easy to walk away from which is something I don't think people understand. I think he should hang 'em up to but only if HE is ready.
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