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Post by Mr.GT on Oct 13, 2007 16:23:55 GMT -5
A.) Hogan will bitch about Pay. B.) Nash will get injured. C.) Hall will no-show and Events and will be drunk.
Are those 3 good enough reasons?
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Post by onemoretime on Oct 13, 2007 19:35:09 GMT -5
Why do so many wrestling fans want to live in the past? I would much rather see something new and exciting, as opposed to something that worked 10 years ago.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 13, 2007 19:37:50 GMT -5
Why do so many wrestling fans want to live in the past? I would much rather see something new and exciting, as opposed to something that worked 10 years ago. Name three things created by the WWE that is new, exciting and has drawn money in the last five years. Yeah, exactly.
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Post by Moon Man BBC on Oct 13, 2007 19:54:04 GMT -5
It doesn't have to be for six months just a couple of weeks about 2 or 3 months. that would just show how useless it was to bring it back in the first place. 2 or 3 months? just a waste of time.. plus u want to bring a big faction back and there still talent that needs to be pushed? that would only complicate things
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Post by slappy on Oct 13, 2007 19:58:05 GMT -5
Why do so many wrestling fans want to live in the past? I would much rather see something new and exciting, as opposed to something that worked 10 years ago. Name three things created by the WWE that is new, exciting and has drawn money in the last five years. Yeah, exactly. John Cena. Batista. Can't think of another.
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Post by BTG Motherpunker on Oct 13, 2007 20:04:58 GMT -5
Why do so many wrestling fans want to live in the past? I would much rather see something new and exciting, as opposed to something that worked 10 years ago. Name three things created by the WWE that is new, exciting and has drawn money in the last five years. Yeah, exactly. Elimination Chamber Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero are simultaneous World Champions Randy Orton, John Cena, Batista and Bobby Lashley debut The brand split ECW rebirth ROH stars Paul London, Spanky and CM Punk achieve considerable success Yeah, nothing good ever happens.
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Post by cenaroxorz123 on Oct 13, 2007 20:08:18 GMT -5
Amen #2 Anyway, I remember last year when everyone was clamoring for DX to return. I think they lasted a week, maybe less, before everyone turned on them.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Oct 13, 2007 20:09:08 GMT -5
Why not bring back the nWo?
Well, if the nWo's 2002 run and the new ECW are any indication, it's because WWE has no idea what to do with other people's ideas.
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Post by Kenny Powers on Oct 13, 2007 20:46:08 GMT -5
I wouldn't be against bringing in a new faction with a similar philosophy of the nWo angle but to call it nWo would seem desperate in this period of low ratings.
Thats why I thought Hart Foundation 2.0 was going to rock the casbah.
Maybe someday...
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Oct 13, 2007 20:52:51 GMT -5
Hogan and WWE are on bad terms because Hogan is a greedy bastard and wants bigger pay days than full time talent and refuses to put anybody over.
Scott Hall is in terrible shape and for the rest of his life will be a risk to relapse because he is a recovering alcoholic. He is old and looks terrible.
Kevin Nash....also old and looks it too. He's not in terrible shape, but he doesn't look like the days of Big Daddy cool Diesel anymore,..nor does he even look as good as when he was in WWE in 2002-2003.
Putting HBK and HHH in ANY TYPE OF GROUP is going to just be DX or a form of DX....and even that is reeaaally reaalllly played out.
We can't keep living in the past, we need to move on and create new things.
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Post by leafs911 on Oct 13, 2007 21:01:07 GMT -5
nWo 4 lifeeeeeee
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Post by ecwwill on Oct 13, 2007 21:22:06 GMT -5
NWO vs. DX at Survivor Series
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 13, 2007 21:46:28 GMT -5
Popped one buyrate, didn't do anything after that. The last time it was used, December to Dismember, it was the worst buyrate of the year. Ratings and buyrates remained unchanged during their title reigns. The IWC may have had shared a workrate circlejerk, but it didn't mean anything in any measurable, meaningful way. Only Cena and Batista have meant anything in terms of making the company money. Orton may very well be a company killer, we'll know in for certain with the ratings of the next couple of weeks. Lashley hasn't meant anything as the rating from SmackDown to ECW to RAW were level for a long enough time after his departures from each to say logically that he's not a difference maker. The brand split was a mistake, as proven by the fact that they had to start doing tri-branded PPVs in order to salvage buy rates. roflmao Now you're just sounding like a mark. The rebirth of ECW is a complete flop. They draw TNA level ratings now, they flopped in drawing houses (they canceled ECW house shows after a very short time, co-branding them with SmackDown! instead), the buyrate for their first PPV after the "rebirth" was so abysmal that they killed any plans to do another one... They've got one break out star from the entire roster and they only pushed him because they had to. Two things: First of all, as you pointed out, they are ROH guys. I asked for something WWE created. Second of all, the Hooliganz haven't done anything for business, as the 'E doesn't make use of their tag division unless it's with DX or the Hardyz. Nothing that doesn't rely on the past, no. The only exceptions to this, in my opinion, are Cena and Batista. Everything else has had a neutral to negative impact on the company in the ways that matter: ratings, buyrates, money. And I am not knocking the guys in the ring for this, they're doing the best they can with what they're given. I blame the "Creative" team for being completely and totally UNcreative. They couldn't book a one parade without screwing the pooch.
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Post by PdW2kX on Oct 13, 2007 21:48:08 GMT -5
The nWo has been so heavily bastardized over the years that aside from a small bit of nostalgia, any storyline involving the nWo is pretty much doomed to die a slow, horrible death.
No way should it be brought back. Just let it f'ing die.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 13, 2007 21:51:19 GMT -5
We can't keep living in the past, we need to move on and create new things. The problem is that Princess Stephanie and her band of idiots don't know how to create new things that work. They're given five decent to good young guys and they're made into the Spirit Squad. They're given an in-ring technician and they make him a mentally challenged doughboy. Seriously, "Creative" never fails to simultaneously shoot themselves in the foot as they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Post by BTG Motherpunker on Oct 13, 2007 21:53:46 GMT -5
What do you mean "for the business"? Are you that much of a jaded smark that your views on wrestlers and angles are how much money they make or however many t-shirts are sold and not on personal enjoyment? All I read during your post was "buyrates, buyrates, money, money, ratings, ratings". None of these things mean anything to me as a fan.
If Great Khali boosts buyrates and ratings and makes money well what does that mean to me as a fan?
If Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero cry in the middle of the ring, clutching each other because they've broke through the glass ceiling and overcame their disadvantages, then that means something to me.
You've forgotten what it means to be a wrestling fan.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 13, 2007 22:03:31 GMT -5
No, Bill. I've learned not to get attached to anything that doesn't draw money, buyrates or ratings, because the company will surely move on to something that does.
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Post by BTG Motherpunker on Oct 13, 2007 22:13:10 GMT -5
Why watch wrestling then?
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Post by instant classic on Oct 13, 2007 22:35:23 GMT -5
HHH and HBK start NWO lmao
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 14, 2007 0:24:22 GMT -5
Why watch wrestling then? Because, I have become a fan of that which does draw money, thus will be on television for awhile. This pretty much leads me to despise that which doesn't draw money, as I see it as a waste of valuable time and energy.
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