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Post by Stevo on Jun 24, 2007 13:51:11 GMT -5
I believe Umaga was given the belt, largely to make him look strong to the media and general audience going into the Billionaire vs. Billionaire match because of Lashley holding a title at the time. Right, as if the entire year of feeding wrestlers like Kane and Kamala didn't make him look strong enough. The media can go itself, whatever happened to Vince booking title changes for actual wrestling? If the IC title is used to get the media's attention, then its no wonder why the belt has gone to hell.
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Post by noir on Jun 24, 2007 13:52:02 GMT -5
I have to disagree. I see Nitro, Benjamin, Marella and Carlito as potential main-eventers someday. Maybe it hasn't got as much of a status as it used to but some big names have held it since 2000, there's no denying that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2007 14:29:48 GMT -5
It seemed to have lost a lot of its luster after it was retired in late 2002 for several months.
Why'd they bother doing that, anyway?
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Post by wang4mvp on Jun 24, 2007 14:55:58 GMT -5
You've just noticed that? It has been slowly losing credibility and prestige for the past 2 years. I believe that it has reached the bottom with Santino Marrella right now.
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Post by clarkey1990 on Jun 24, 2007 15:10:23 GMT -5
I have to disagree. I see Nitro, Benjamin, Marella and Carlito as potential main-eventers someday. Maybe it hasn't got as much of a status as it used to but some big names have held it since 2000, there's no denying that. If you can see Marella becoming a main eventer you need you eyes checked.
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Post by Adam3s - V1 on Jun 24, 2007 15:19:06 GMT -5
I have to disagree. I see Nitro, Benjamin, Marella and Carlito as potential main-eventers someday. Maybe it hasn't got as much of a status as it used to but some big names have held it since 2000, there's no denying that. If you can see Marella becoming a main eventer you need you eyes checked. Remember what happened with The Rock when he first came into the then WWF? Marella has some potential just a bad character.
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Post by noir on Jun 24, 2007 15:42:04 GMT -5
I have to disagree. I see Nitro, Benjamin, Marella and Carlito as potential main-eventers someday. Maybe it hasn't got as much of a status as it used to but some big names have held it since 2000, there's no denying that. If you can see Marella becoming a main eventer you need you eyes checked. No, I truly think this guy has potential. His moveset is very diverse and he has a strong natural ability. He's a really quick mover and as much as I like Masters, he seems to have outshined him in every single of their matches. As Adam3s said, he just needs a character change. Whilst all of the names I mentioned may never make it to the main event status, I think they all have the potential to.
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Post by jordandec on Jun 24, 2007 15:48:21 GMT -5
The IC title was better as a classic now it sucks
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Post by CF9™ on Jun 24, 2007 16:19:29 GMT -5
Very, VERY good post. Very well thought out, and soooo true.
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Post by TheBigThing on Jun 24, 2007 18:12:35 GMT -5
I believe Umaga was given the belt, largely to make him look strong to the media and general audience going into the Billionaire vs. Billionaire match because of Lashley holding a title at the time. Right, as if the entire year of feeding wrestlers like Kane and Kamala didn't make him look strong enough. The media can go itself, whatever happened to Vince booking title changes for actual wrestling? If the IC title is used to get the media's attention, then its no wonder why the belt has gone to hell. Very true, but the entertainment world as far as the media goes wouldn't know of that. Any typical person who wasn't familiar with wrestling would look at Umaga vs. Lashley and see that Lashley has a belt, presumably making him the better wrestler. Umaga not once had a prominent defense during his reign. The only real sense of putting the IC belt on Umaga that could come from a wrestling standpoint is that he was a monster and had crushed dozens of wrestlers for over a year, clearly making him look like a credible champion. It was how his reign came across that made it seem useless, as its only real purpose was to put over Santino Marella.
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Post by TeamExtreme718x on Jun 24, 2007 21:37:11 GMT -5
Nitro just won the HW title for ECW... lol
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Post by T R W on Jun 24, 2007 21:39:20 GMT -5
Yes, but it's because the Smackdown and ECW titles are basically IC belts.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Jun 24, 2007 21:43:40 GMT -5
Well, once upon a time I picked Nitro as the half of MNM that would be sucessful. I was ripped for it, realized the error of my ways and dubbed him as a career mid-carder. I confess now that I was wrong to rething my decision and I was right in the first place.
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Post by layzie on Jun 24, 2007 21:52:30 GMT -5
yeah it hasn't been as much of a stepping stone per say since like, 1998. but i think since being ressurected, it's had it's fair share of great runs, most notably Orton and Benjamin's 3.
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Post by taker1 on Jun 24, 2007 21:56:10 GMT -5
All of the WWE championships have lost their prestige except for SmackDown!'s Heavyweight title. The I.C title became nothing when Marrella won it. yeah and the hilarious thing is that that belt was created in 2002. i don't get why people say the wwe title is losing prestige. if anything, it's GAINING even more prestige w/ Cena holding it 24/7. Imagine the rub somebody's gonna get when they win it?
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Post by taker1 on Jun 24, 2007 21:58:03 GMT -5
Yes, but it's because the Smackdown and ECW titles are basically IC belts. i agree that the ECW Title is about on the same level as IC/US, but I still think the WHC has some credibility.
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Post by 49% Motherf**ker, 51% SOB on Jun 24, 2007 22:20:32 GMT -5
I think if Ken Kennedy holds that belt, that is a way it can mean something again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2007 23:56:39 GMT -5
The title has lost it significance.
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Post by hammerhead on Jun 25, 2007 0:03:15 GMT -5
The IC Title has lost its luster and now really means nothing. the Santino experiment is failing and the poor guy is gonna end up falling flat on his face before ending up on WWE.com's HEAT.
The U.S. Title is the title to have. Benoit & MVP have really restored prestige to that title in the past few months.
Even before Santino....Hardy vs. Nitro fued for the title went on FOREVER only to have Hardy crushed by Umaga in minutes....made no sense. Personally, I wasn't into the Hardy/Nitro fued, but at least it was showcasing the title.
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