Greensborohill
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Post by Greensborohill on Jan 2, 2008 10:35:54 GMT -5
i wasnt watching wwf/e at the time so what happened exactly? all i kno is HBK was suppose to lose and he didnt help me out! Obviously you weren't watching it. You were still pooping in your potty pants!!
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jan 2, 2008 12:53:27 GMT -5
Bret was going to wCw and didn't want to drop the belt in Canada, so him and Vince made a plan for him to give the title on RAW, but Vince was scared he would go to nitro with the title and do the same thing Madusa did, so he made a plan with DX, Patterson, Hebner, etc. to screw Bret out of the title by having the ref ring the bell while Bret was in the sharpshooter even though he didn't tap out. I read in Brets book that Neidhart warned him about a screwjob because it had happened to him in Japan or something.
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Post by LeighD on Jan 2, 2008 13:22:12 GMT -5
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Mirror Images
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fan since '92
Joined on: Jun 7, 2005 4:07:40 GMT -5
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Post by Mirror Images on Jan 2, 2008 13:34:50 GMT -5
Vince wanted bret to drop title
Bret wouldnt drop it
Vince agreed to a dq finish in the Bret V Hbk match
Then Vince came out during the match when HBk had a sharpshooter on bret and told the ref to ring the bell even though bret didnt submit
Winner and new champ HBk
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Post by markallenkellner on Jan 2, 2008 13:43:34 GMT -5
Seriously, think about it. Bret dropped the belt to HBK without looking bad since he was "screwed", went to WCW as a super babyface (though WCW obviously screwed that up) and was part of possibly the biggest shocker in wrestling history at that time. As a bonus, Vince became the biggest heel character the WWF at that time. Not only that, most importantly, WWF became the "edgy and shocking" show to watch. I still think it was a work I think that somebody would have cracked by now if it was. The only way it could possibly be a work is if Shawn and Triple H aren't in on it, but still, Bret has turned down opportunities to appear at WrestleMania XX and what-not. It was hard enough to get him to show up at the Hall of Fame. I don't think he would have missed out on that if there really weren't any hard feelings.
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Post by The UndyTaker on Jan 2, 2008 13:54:07 GMT -5
For a long time I thought it was real, but more and more I am starting to believe it was a work.
If it was, no one would necessarily have cracked by now. The only real people to know would have been Bret and Vince. HBK and HHH could have just been told what the finish was going to be, but not that it was planned.
Think about this: WCW is beating WWE in the ratings. WWF needs to get back to the #1 slot, especially since they were supposedly in such dire straits that they almost went out of business. It was becoming more known that Vince owned the WWF. And Bischoff was one of the biggest heels since he made it known he was the President and then aligned with the nWo. What better way to get some exposure than to "screw" Bret, and then become the heel boss? And look how that turned out. PLUS, you "screw" Bret, he goes to WCW for 3 years, then comes back and you have an already set up giant feud that people will want to see.
The only people who would have to know were Bret and Vince. And I think they both can keep secrets.
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