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Post by No Brokeback on Feb 18, 2008 23:22:28 GMT -5
See, when you guys can't bitch about wrestling anymore, you bitch at people who actually LIKE watching wrestling. Clever, truly, it really is It's sad when you fight people and the moment you get owned you change the subject I didn't change the subject, I posted another comment RIGHT after i previously posted because I thought the page would change. So if you want to continue arguing, then keep going. I don't really mind, since you actually think it's fighting
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Post by Liv Is Life on Feb 18, 2008 23:23:21 GMT -5
I don't think it's a matter of like wrestling or not..I personally LOVE wrestling, but can't stand most of what the WWE does anymore. There are a few things I enjoy, namely Santino/Maria and the occasional undercard guys...however I never miss a TNA show and rarely do I not see the latest ROH show.
I swear, some of you couldn't handle being a TNA fan, they catch tons more crapfor things that imo, are no where near as bad as half the stuff WWE does.
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Post by matwork on Feb 18, 2008 23:26:04 GMT -5
It's sad when you fight people and the moment you get owned you change the subject I didn't change the subject, I posted another comment RIGHT after i previously posted because I thought the page would change. So if you want to continue arguing, then keep going. I don't really mind, since you actually think it's fighting I don't think it's fighting seeing that you didn't care and I didn't see that before and I don't really care I just thought I add that to the you trying to fight the figure mod.
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Post by American Phenom on Feb 18, 2008 23:26:39 GMT -5
Was Kennedy's match a MITB qualifier (I missed it because I was at work)?
On the Wrestlemania site, they updated it, but it only says Jeff Hardy qualified.
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Post by T1 on Feb 18, 2008 23:28:24 GMT -5
You see, this is why JBL is a god. He just did what most wrestling fans have been wanting to see for months..
That was so satisfying to watch.
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Post by Almost Like Flacco on Feb 18, 2008 23:29:39 GMT -5
Was Kennedy's match a MITB qualifier (I missed it because I was at work)? On the Wrestlemania site, they updated it, but it only says Jeff Hardy qualified. Yes, it was.
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Post by v/\v on Feb 18, 2008 23:30:01 GMT -5
Was Kennedy's match a MITB qualifier (I missed it because I was at work)? On the Wrestlemania site, they updated it, but it only says Jeff Hardy qualified. Moore and Wang Yang qualified for the Rumble and they were ousted, the wwe make things up on the fly sometimes.
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Post by No Brokeback on Feb 18, 2008 23:30:54 GMT -5
I didn't change the subject, I posted another comment RIGHT after i previously posted because I thought the page would change. So if you want to continue arguing, then keep going. I don't really mind, since you actually think it's fighting I don't think it's fighting seeing that you didn't care and I didn't see that before and I don't really care I just thought I add that to the you trying to fight the figure mod. I wasn't trying to fight at all. I was just pointing at that I enjoyed the show, and he complained about it the entire time, through the last hour of the show. I think green stars boost his message board 'ego' and think if he says something, people MUST agree, and if they don't see it his way, he bitches more. 'See the 'how not to write a wrestling show' topic
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Post by v/\v on Feb 18, 2008 23:32:18 GMT -5
^^^WTF are you guys talking about, get out of the Raw thread if you just want to burn eachother.
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Post by No Brokeback on Feb 18, 2008 23:34:48 GMT -5
^^^WTF are you guys talking about, get out of the Raw thread if you just want to burn eachother. Well considering your sig, I have a question to anyone that knows Were those punches supposed to be 'real' to the big show? That whole segment tonight had me on the edge of my seat, only because I wasn't sure what was going to happen. Does the boxer know how to 'fake' punches, or do you think he wants to, as he wants a ton a publicity?
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Post by matwork on Feb 18, 2008 23:36:54 GMT -5
I don't think it's fighting seeing that you didn't care and I didn't see that before and I don't really care I just thought I add that to the you trying to fight the figure mod. I wasn't trying to fight at all. I was just pointing at that I enjoyed the show, and he complained about it the entire time, through the last hour of the show. I think green stars boost his message board 'ego' and think if he says something, people MUST agree, and if they don't see it his way, he bitches more. 'See the 'how not to write a wrestling show' topic I understand you better now.
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Post by Suckasays on Feb 18, 2008 23:37:12 GMT -5
Lame ass fights go in the PM box.
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Post by matwork on Feb 18, 2008 23:38:33 GMT -5
OMG we're tottaly fighting, some of you are ignorant. I JUST said I was stating a opionion so shut up unless you know what your talking about. ^^^WTF are you guys talking about, get out of the Raw thread if you just want to burn eachother.
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Post by v/\v on Feb 18, 2008 23:49:43 GMT -5
OMG we're tottaly fighting, some of you are ignorant. I JUST said I was stating a opionion so shut up unless you know what your talking about. ^^^WTF are you guys talking about, get out of the Raw thread if you just want to burn eachother. Well i didn't say you were fighting but all i can see is hell of alot of quoting and then there was the Figure Talk Mod stuff, i was like.......... I think they messed up the brawl last night, Mayweather is a real top-notch fighter so i think he probably doesn't know how to pull his punches, but Show probably wanted him to hit him. Plus Mayweather love media attention so this is like gold to him.
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Post by J12 on Feb 19, 2008 0:04:53 GMT -5
Solid show overall, but where the hell was Jericho? Umaga? Flair?
How did they just conveniently forget three of their top guys?
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Post by Quanthor on Feb 19, 2008 0:15:11 GMT -5
That new Hardy song is atrocious.
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Post by spacejam on Feb 19, 2008 0:23:55 GMT -5
wwe.com has an "Update" on Hornswoggle
ANAHEIM, Calif. – After being brutalized by JBL Monday night during a Steel Cage Match with his father, Mr. McMahon, Hornswoggle is being evaluated at a local medical facility in the Anaheim, Calif., area.
Hornswoggle, sources said, suffered head and internal injuries after being repeatedly slammed into the cage by JBL. Sources close to the situation told WWE.com that he has yet to regain consciousness and was bleeding from the mouth, nose and ears. It was speculated that the bleeding may be related to Hornswoggle’s head and internal injuries.
Other sources also said that shortly after Hornswoggle was transported from the Honda Center, he went into shock. Stay with WWE.com for further updates on Hornswoggle’s condition as they become available
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Post by megs on Feb 19, 2008 0:53:49 GMT -5
who does jeffs new theme?
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Post by miserere on Feb 19, 2008 1:15:14 GMT -5
This was probably the worst episode of RAW I have ever seen. Every match's outcome could have been predicted from two or three weeks ago, the storylines they have going are atrocious, and the build to Wrestle Mania is off to a rocky start (to say the least). Here's what I thought of the show:
Paul Burchill sucks. He has no charisma, his current character has no promise, and whatever talent he has is being left out there to dry in part by horrendous booking. A match against Super Crazy? Are you kidding? Let's not kid ourselves - this match would be destined for Heat if it wasn't for WWE's harebrained scheme to introduce us to Burchill's incest gimmick. I flipped the channel to X-Play during this one, so I didn't see the finish, but does it really take a Rhodes Scholar to know that Burchill won? Bring back the pirate schema, guys, that was at least mildly entertaining. Burchill and his butterface "sister" are going no where fast.
Another Money in the Bank ladder match at Wrestle Mania? This is what, the fourth time they've done this? Fifth? They're beating this match into the ground worse than the steel cage. Remember when the cage was only used to settle the most heated feuds between the top superstars in the company? Yeah... more on that particular match type later; back to the delightful contests to determine the six participants in this year's Money in the Bank match. The first match was Jeff Hardy vs. Snitsky. First off, let me just say that I don't know what the point in having a Snitsky is. The guy is big, pasty, has acne pock marks and yellow teeth. Great? I mean, is he supposed to be a big threat to any championships, or is he just sort of the token big guy they use to lose to the littler performers, so JR can yell out, "How will he defeat Snitsky? He's such a massive athlete!" He's pointless, useless, and most of all, worthless.
For the entire match, Snitsky had the upper hand, not that it really mattered, as we knew Jeff would "overcome" his barrage of "injuries" from the Elimination Chamber and qualify for Wrestle Mania. We knew Jeff would win tonight, and we know he's going to win at 'Mania. He's one of the hottest guys going right now, and they should just give him his title shot right now. I fail to see what the use of giving this guy a title shot even is, as he already has a championship which he never defends, but this is WWE we're talking about.
The second qualifying match was between Ken Kennedy, whose character was funny for maybe two months, Val Venis, who hasn't been culturally relevant since last millennium. Can the writers throw us a bone, here, and at least give us a match between two people we think have a chance at winning? Does anybody honestly expect to see Val Venis competing in a ladder match at the biggest pay per view of the year? Val Venis? Terrible booking, just awful. The match itself was worse than Val's hairline and the crowd was deader than Val's gimmick.
A good thing came from those two matches, however: new theme music! Well, "good" is perhaps too critical a word. Both Hardy and Kennedy had new music; Hardy's was crap rock, the same type of annoyingly over-processed tunes the company's been using for years for their show's theme tunes while Kennedy's was a re-working of his already horrible song. It couldn't get worse than this, could it?
Why, yes it could! I should learn to never question myself so much, as I already know the answers. With new theme music in tow, possibly straight from the Soggy Bottom Boys themselves, comes THE BIG SHOW. Name in all capitals because he's big and he's back! The only thing more boorish than his new them was the promo that followed. Show wanted Floyd "Money" Mayweather to come down to the ring to issue him an apology. I don't know what a giant-sized man who really didn't do anything would apologize for, let alone to the guy that broke his nose the night before, alas, it was happening.
Out comes "Money" Mayweather, posse full of fat black men and men in hooded sweatshirts, fresh nickname, and hilariously awful 50 Cent theme music in check. Wait, you mean to tell me Floyd "The Boxer," err.. "Money" Mayweather, the guy that was on WWE programming for maybe five or so minutes, already has theme music and his own Titantron video? Sure! Why not.
After the two shake hands, Floyd's genius tune kicks back into gear, and he marches up the ramp wiping down his face like he's a dirty kitten. Big Show tells him he's "done exactly what I was asked to do," and taunts him, saying he wants him one on one: good boxer versus overweight, talentless wrestler. Mayweather storms the ring, runs his paw over his face, then takes off his shirt readying to make a decision. "I ACCEPT!" Cool! The dead crowd wakes up when Mayweather feigns a punch to Show, who flinches. Then again, I'd flinch, only my flinch is more toward what is about to happen - a boxing match between a real champion boxer and the guy who used to parade himself around in a shirt that said "chicks dig it big." (For future reference, that phrase isn't safe for work, so don't type it into Google)
When you thought it couldn't get any worse, it does! A steel cage is lowered to house Mr. McMahon and Hornswoggle. A 60+ year-old company owner versus a 21-year-old midget leprechaun. Only in WWE (as TNA has a wrestler convinced he is a shark, so these two companies are treading completely different water). Long story short, Finlay (whom I enjoy) gets handcuffed to the top rope with those handcuffs with the reeeally long chain, JBL, having nothing better to do, comes from under the ring and attacks the midget and Finlay, and Mr. McMahon does absolutely nothing but remove his belt and slap his "son" for a minute before exiting. WWE, as a fan of yours and all you have done, please kill this angle. We're not convinced the midget is Vince's son, we hate the circus you are turning RAW into, and we most certainly are not entertained. Apologies to the three or four of you who enjoyed this charade. Chris Jericho, who if you remember was to "save us," did not make an appearance to further his program with JBL. Typical.
Shawn Michaels came out to introduce Ric Flair as the first of this year's Hall of Fame class. I hate the Hall of Fame. It may be an honor to the wrestlers inducted into it, but it's just further proof WWE wants to be like real, professional sports like the NFL or MLB. They furthered themselves by doing "power rankings" on the WWE site, and offering "fantasy wrestling" not too long ago. Anyhow, HBK comes out to say a word or two about how much he wants to sleep with Flair, we're shown a video package (surely the majority from Flair's DVD), and that is that. It was hard to watch. Shawn is my favorite wrestler by far, and this is what they gave him? Why not have Flair come out and thank him? Start a little respect feud before 'Mania, announce a match, just do SOMETHING! No sir. Instead, Shawn stands there awkwardly, looks off into the crowd, and his music hits several seconds later. Nice going, WWE. Another missed opportunity. Close, if you'd remember, only counts in horseshoes.
The highlight of the night for me was seeing Santino and Maria come out and do their little shtick. Santino is awesome; he has great microphone skill, he's funny, and he's a real bang-up guy in the ring. Maria is, of course, very hot. The Playboy angle is stupid as, if you've read Playboy, you'd already know that Maria is going to be in next month's issue. I did enjoy seeing Beth Phoenix come out and face Maria, however. I like Phoenix; she's the best they have in the ring, and she's not ugly, like other "big women" (Chyna, Nicole Bass, etc.). Didn't care for seeing Candace Michelle, but we all knew Maria had to win. Just never let Phoenix drop that belt and we'll be good. (Which, of course, means she'll drop it at the next pay per view.)
Main event time: John Cena versus Randy "Why don't I 'Orton pose' anymore?" Orton. Here's the twist - HHH is referee! We all knew Cena would win due to Vince's love affair with the guy. Dull match, plenty of Cena antics, and Hunter calls it right down the middle. Nothing at all that exciting or unexpected, as is the standard for this brand. The show ends with HHH giving a pedigree to both competitors. It's funny, because the pedigree isn't even the pedigree anymore. Not a single wrestler can take it like they would maybe six or seven years ago. It's always the 'ol hook both arms, jump, let go of their arms, and push them down routine. The move has taken on new meaning over the years and looks like shit. It's weird, isn't it? How the tombstone was a "banned" move back when HHH was actually giving his opponents a real pedigree where he held their arms the entire time? Now the tombstones looks better than ever, oftentimes with the guy's head actually hitting the mat, and the pedigree looks weak. Sign of the times, I guess.
Anyhoo, awful show. The good was seeing the commercials advertising the No Way Out repeats, watching Big Show get his nose broken, and Santino. The bad was everything else. Randy's going to lose that belt in 41 days, but to who? Cena or HHH? They'll probably call it a tie and the world will explode due to a lack of caring. Yawn.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Feb 19, 2008 1:19:58 GMT -5
That was the only good thing about Kennedy, was his theme. Now that they have done away with that, not he completely sucks lol. How can you say he sucks? Because he does... When it comes to in-ring performance - Kennedy may just possibly be, the most boring and un-inspiring wrestler in the entire company... I really hope they let Burchill have better matches than he had tonight - and those "You're a pirate" chants, won't help him much...
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