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Post by CBT on Mar 10, 2008 0:25:00 GMT -5
They need to unfiy the Raw and Smackdown tag titles and have them defended on all 3 brands!, Womens title too! I've felt that way for a long time. I think there should be some legit explanation made, but one that validates those champions having the freedom to defend freely. Of course, if it was up to me, when you lose I'd have you officially a part of that brand. In example, Morrison & Miz lose on Smackdown, they are labeled Smackdown superstars... they lose on Raw, they'll be Raw branded.
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Post by k5 on Mar 10, 2008 0:54:30 GMT -5
they need 6-man tag championships, and everyone have two alliances for partners.
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Post by HHH316 on Mar 10, 2008 1:42:11 GMT -5
I havent been excited about the tag titles since 2002.
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Post by carly1988 on Mar 10, 2008 5:46:57 GMT -5
I was serious. At least that belt is on a talented individual who defends it against mostly-credible contenders on a semi-regular basis. I can give valid reasons why all the other belts don't mean jack ****. He was being facetious. Somebody brings up the sad state of the tag division on a fairly regular basis around here. Ok, World Title and WWE title? Hell i can answer that quickly, when the WWE title became a spinning hubcap it lost all prestige. And the second the WHC/WCW title was brought into WWE and made to look "2nd tier" to the WWE spinning hubcap it lost all of hits prestige that Flair, Hogan, Sting, Luger, Muta, Chono and Rude gave to it The IC and US titles are crap because they find someone whos hot but just isnt ready to carry the company yet so they put those belts on them and leave it on them forever and a day. The tag titles are obviously crap just by whos carrying them. ECW title isnt worth a damn because its a 3rd Tier world title, which 10 years ago was basically the European Title. CW title is no more, and as long as Beth Phoenix defends regularly against gals like Mickie James, Melina, Victoria and less against Kelly, Ashley, Maria the womens title will keep what little prestige it has
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Post by Fiasco on Mar 10, 2008 5:51:14 GMT -5
The Tag Team division was good last year Rated Rko, Dx, Cade and Murdoch weren't injured all the time Londrick wrestled regularly but now it sucks Morrison and Miz are the only good team.
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Post by Iron Man on Mar 10, 2008 11:04:58 GMT -5
Ok, World Title and WWE title? Hell i can answer that quickly, when the WWE title became a spinning hubcap it lost all prestige. And the second the WHC/WCW title was brought into WWE and made to look "2nd tier" to the WWE spinning hubcap it lost all of hits prestige that Flair, Hogan, Sting, Luger, Muta, Chono and Rude gave to it The IC and US titles are crap because they find someone whos hot but just isnt ready to carry the company yet so they put those belts on them and leave it on them forever and a day. The tag titles are obviously crap just by whos carrying them. ECW title isnt worth a damn because its a 3rd Tier world title, which 10 years ago was basically the European Title. CW title is no more, and as long as Beth Phoenix defends regularly against gals like Mickie James, Melina, Victoria and less against Kelly, Ashley, Maria the womens title will keep what little prestige it has When the World Title was brought in, it was certainly not the 2nd teir title because it was on RAW with Triple H who defended it a few times in the main event of Mania. The only reason it lost presitige is when he was awarded the belt and it eventually went on Smackdown where guyes like Booker T, Khali, and Mysterio held the belt. The excuse you have for the WWE title is stupid. Give me a better reason. Just because you don't like the look of the belt doesn't mean it has no prestige. They have title matches atleast every month and always have long title reigns for the last couple years unlike the attitude era where it changed hands every couple weeks tbh. If anything, the belt gained prestige
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Post by The Boglin on Mar 10, 2008 11:11:06 GMT -5
They need to end the brands thing and combine just about every title.....
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Post by Wago on Mar 10, 2008 11:16:08 GMT -5
Title set up needs to be. One set of tag titles for all shos. (WWE Unify it with the World) RAW - WWE, IC Womens SD - World, US, CW ECW - ECW
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Mar 10, 2008 11:35:53 GMT -5
I was serious. At least that belt is on a talented individual who defends it against mostly-credible contenders on a semi-regular basis. I can give valid reasons why all the other belts don't mean jack ****. He was being facetious. Somebody brings up the sad state of the tag division on a fairly regular basis around here. Ok, World Title and WWE title? While some people might give you the whole "spinner" excuse for the WWE title, or the fact that the World title will never overcome the stigma of having been originally created solely for Triple H, the real reason those two titles have lost their luster is because they both exist. World Titles really don't mean as much when you have 3 of them to choose from. And ironically, the third World Title (That would be the one that reads "ECW World Heavyweight Wrestling Champion" on it) is less prestigious because it's no longer treated like a World title. It's treated like a mid-card title. Which takes away from the prestige of the IC and US titles, not that they needed any help with that, since the people holding them are too busy pursuing World titles to defend the ones they have. Both Jeff and MVP were in their respective #1 Contender's Elimination Chamber matches, and now both are in the Money in the Bank match instead of defending their titles on the biggest show of the year. And don't get me started on Chavo being in the Royal Rumble. As the old saying goes, "crap rolls downhill."
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Post by Iron Man on Mar 10, 2008 11:39:31 GMT -5
Ok, World Title and WWE title? While some people might give you the whole "spinner" excuse for the WWE title, or the fact that the World title will never overcome the stigma of having been originally created solely for Triple H, the real reason those two titles have lost their luster is because they both exist. World Titles really don't mean as much when you have 3 of them to choose from. And ironically, the third World Title (That would be the one that reads "ECW World Heavyweight Wrestling Champion" on it) is less prestigious because it's no longer treated like a World title. It's treated like a mid-card title. Which takes away from the prestige of the IC and US titles, not that they needed any help with that, since the people holding them are too busy pursuing World titles to defend the ones they have. Both Jeff and MVP were in their respective #1 Contender's Elimination Chamber matches, and now both are in the Money in the Bank match instead of defending their titles on the biggest show of the year. And don't get me started on Chavo being in the Royal Rumble. As the old saying goes, " **** rolls downhill." Its WWE Championship, not WWE World Championship, tbh. Still not a good reason why the WWE title has lost all prestige
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Post by bad guy™ on Mar 10, 2008 11:48:15 GMT -5
Thorn/Cena Dream Team in my book. And the tag division does need help. And maybe get a good faction in there. I am thinking a revival of the Nation?
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Mar 10, 2008 11:54:23 GMT -5
While some people might give you the whole "spinner" excuse for the WWE title, or the fact that the World title will never overcome the stigma of having been originally created solely for Triple H, the real reason those two titles have lost their luster is because they both exist. World Titles really don't mean as much when you have 3 of them to choose from. And ironically, the third World Title (That would be the one that reads "ECW World Heavyweight Wrestling Champion" on it) is less prestigious because it's no longer treated like a World title. It's treated like a mid-card title. Which takes away from the prestige of the IC and US titles, not that they needed any help with that, since the people holding them are too busy pursuing World titles to defend the ones they have. Both Jeff and MVP were in their respective #1 Contender's Elimination Chamber matches, and now both are in the Money in the Bank match instead of defending their titles on the biggest show of the year. And don't get me started on Chavo being in the Royal Rumble. As the old saying goes, " **** rolls downhill." Its WWE Championship, not WWE World Championship, tbh. Still not a good reason why the WWE title has lost all prestige Just because the physical belt doesn't have the word "World" on it anymore doesn't make it any less of a world championship. When Ric Flair calls himself a 16-time World Champion, that includes his 2 WWE titles. When Triple H calls himself a 12-time World Champion, that includes 6 WWE titles (and likewise, he'll refer to himself as a 12-time WWE Champion, which includes 6 World titles). The way you're phrasing it implies that the 2 belts aren't equal (more specifically, that the World title is more important than the WWE title), when in the eyes of WWE, they are equal. Which I feel contributes to the problem.
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Post by Reddevilbigevil on Mar 10, 2008 15:32:14 GMT -5
Ok, World Title and WWE title? Hell i can answer that quickly, when the WWE title became a spinning hubcap it lost all prestige. And the second the WHC/WCW title was brought into WWE and made to look "2nd tier" to the WWE spinning hubcap it lost all of hits prestige that Flair, Hogan, Sting, Luger, Muta, Chono and Rude gave to it The IC and US titles are crap because they find someone whos hot but just isnt ready to carry the company yet so they put those belts on them and leave it on them forever and a day. The tag titles are obviously crap just by whos carrying them. ECW title isnt worth a damn because its a 3rd Tier world title, which 10 years ago was basically the European Title. CW title is no more, and as long as Beth Phoenix defends regularly against gals like Mickie James, Melina, Victoria and less against Kelly, Ashley, Maria the womens title will keep what little prestige it has How has it lost the prestige that WCW gave to when it`s a different title and different belt now?
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Post by BIGticket5 on Mar 10, 2008 16:43:07 GMT -5
They should have one tag division between all three brands. i totally agree
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