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Post by Reddevilbigevil on Mar 21, 2008 14:35:50 GMT -5
In my opinion, he doesn't have a winning streak, but he does have an undefeated streak. The same way Christian was still undefeated in TNA after losing KOTM. It depends on your definition of "defeat" really, but in a lot of peoples' eyes (including mine) he was never pinned or made to submit, therefore he is undefeated. Undertaker has both an undefeated streak and a winning streak. They're not the same thing. Edge only has an undefeated streak. Your logic is flawed there is no technicalities when it comes win/loss you either win or you lose. If you didn`t win you lost which means you ARE defeated even though you werent the one pinned or submitted. So including Edge there are 6 guys who didn`t get defeated last year? Nope! they all lost the match and kennedy won. Simple concept really.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Mar 21, 2008 14:37:27 GMT -5
His undeafted streak ?? Him being 5-0. He`s not undefeated!! he lost the MIB last year!!! I don`t care if he wasn`t pinned or didn`t submit. he didn`t win bottom line!!!! he lost so therefore NO STREAK!!! Wrong. If he didnt win, then he wouldnt get a nod in the win column. However, he didnt lose, thus he doesnt get a mark in the loss column.
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Post by great1 on Mar 21, 2008 14:40:17 GMT -5
Edge was taken out of the match. He wasn't technically in it when the decision was made. So, as far as I'm concerned, he's yet to be defeated at Wrestlemania. Exactly.
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Post by Reddevilbigevil on Mar 21, 2008 14:44:07 GMT -5
He`s not undefeated!! he lost the MIB last year!!! I don`t care if he wasn`t pinned or didn`t submit. he didn`t win bottom line!!!! he lost so therefore NO STREAK!!! Wrong. If he didnt win, then he wouldnt get a nod in the win column. However, he didnt lose, thus he doesnt get a mark in the loss column. If he had a streak the record would read 6-0 but unfortunately it doesn`t, so again the history books say he`s not undefeated.
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Post by Blazer034 on Mar 21, 2008 14:44:14 GMT -5
No, he didn't...because he isn't undefeated. There's really no need to talk about this further, but the logic of the people who claim he's undefeated is intellectually- disabled. When you DON'T WIN in something you're competing in, you LOSE. Why is that concept so hard to grasp? Not winning doesn't mean you lose. So if the TLC match that Edge lost the WWE Title to Cena was at a Wrestlemania, would he be 5-1? Edge did not keep the title, he lost it to Cena. The same thing goes for a Singles or Tag Team Ladder Match or TLC match, or a MITB or a Elimination Chamber match. If you don't win, then you lose.
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Post by chumped on Mar 21, 2008 14:53:55 GMT -5
No, he didn't...because he isn't undefeated. There's really no need to talk about this further, but the logic of the people who claim he's undefeated is intellectually- disabled. When you DON'T WIN in something you're competing in, you LOSE. Why is that concept so hard to grasp? Exactly. There are no opinions to be had on this subject. He did NOT win, therefore he LOST.
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Post by Blazer034 on Mar 21, 2008 14:56:35 GMT -5
Why do I see a poll being started about this sometime in the future?
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Post by captain master talbot on Mar 21, 2008 14:58:26 GMT -5
Why do I see a poll being started about this sometime in the future? Because it is WF, and 50% of them are idiots.
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Post by Reddevilbigevil on Mar 21, 2008 14:59:40 GMT -5
Why do I see a poll being started about this sometime in the future? Because your going to make one? theres no need. it`s pretty cut and dry for people who have the ability to think rationally.
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Post by cenaroxorz123 on Mar 21, 2008 15:04:22 GMT -5
From WWE.com's preview of the match:
So there, he's officially not undefeated.
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Post by CBT on Mar 21, 2008 15:05:52 GMT -5
Edge never lost that match. He didn't even compete all the way through the damn. In alot of people's eyes he is undefeated. Even if you push the fact he left the match due to "injury". It's like saying all the other participants are "undefeated at Wrestlemania", too. Especially Punk, who was competing in his first. He's 1-0.
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Post by Blazer034 on Mar 21, 2008 15:14:27 GMT -5
From WWE.com's preview of the match: So there, he's officially not undefeated. WWE says he is 5-1, end of story.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2008 15:15:05 GMT -5
Who cares? It wouldn't really even consider it a "streak", since it's only 6. WWE never really mentioned The Undertaker's WrestleMania streak, until his 10th win. If thats the case, theres lots of people "undefeated" at WrestleMania:
- The Undertaker - John Cena - Rob Van Dam - Melina - Mickie James - Mr. Kennedy - Bobby Lashley - The Boogeyman - Sabu - Sandman
... just to name a few.
- Triple S
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Mar 21, 2008 15:19:04 GMT -5
It doesn't matter, he's blates going to lose to Undertaker anyway.
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Post by addam on Mar 21, 2008 15:28:57 GMT -5
From WWE.com's preview of the match: So there, he's officially not undefeated. omg, thank you, i'm so sick of people that only climb out of edges ass to argue about his "undefeated" streak. thank god it's official now!!!!!
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Post by Reddevilbigevil on Mar 21, 2008 15:30:17 GMT -5
From WWE.com's preview of the match: So there, he's officially not undefeated. omg, thank you, i'm so sick of people that only climb out of edges ass to argue about his "undefeated" streak. thank god it's official now!!!!! It`s been official since last Wrestlemania! LOL
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Post by HardyHeft on Mar 21, 2008 15:34:36 GMT -5
Doens't matter hes going to lose this year at WM
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Post by sincityhero on Mar 21, 2008 16:53:00 GMT -5
Nope.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Mar 21, 2008 17:03:15 GMT -5
No, he didn't...because he isn't undefeated. There's really no need to talk about this further, but the logic of the people who claim he's undefeated is intellectually- disabled. When you DON'T WIN in something you're competing in, you LOSE. Why is that concept so hard to grasp? Not winning doesn't mean you lose. LOL So if two teams are playing in the Super Bowl and the quarterback on the losing team gets hurt and doesn't finish the game, does that mean he didn't lose? Of course not. I realize it's all kayfabe in wrestling, but how some of you buy into this crap is just unbelievable. How don't you guys understand this?
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Mar 21, 2008 18:46:29 GMT -5
Now I feel like starting an argument about Cena's streak.
Is he 4-0 or 5-0? Oh, the controversy!
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