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Post by saveusaries on Mar 24, 2008 23:30:12 GMT -5
If Orton wins i'll cut my penis off. no lie. cause it isn't happening. he'll probably have his "OMFGZZ RKOOOOOOOO!!!!!11" moment. but he'll get a long 2 count,and maccers you've been watching Cena too long if you think that when a champ looks like trash weeks before the Pay-Per-View he'll retain.
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Post by saveusaries on Mar 24, 2008 23:37:47 GMT -5
I'm not trying to start a fight here at all, but will an Orton fan explain to me why he likes him in a casual no insult throwing manner? i just don't see it.He HAD that "it" factor when he was in Evolution, the same thing Lesnar had when he debuted which is why he got his original championship push,but it died down with Brock and i think it's died down for Orton too.In my eyes he's 'decent' at best on the mic and just pretty boring in the ring other than a flashy "out of nowhere" finisher he doesn't have a whole lot. He doesn't have any matches that stand out to me as 'amazing' with the the only exception being his Backlash match with Foley but even that's a stretch for 'amazing'. i just don't see it anymore.
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Post by Mark on Mar 24, 2008 23:39:25 GMT -5
I was told because he does the RKO
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Mar 25, 2008 0:09:16 GMT -5
Watch The Rock induct via Satellite. Hence my dislike for the guy. He came over to our country for a week and hit 3-5 shows and looked about as interested in Wrestlemania as my dad, couldn't give a ****. I'm sure he will be plugging his next theatrical bomb. He wasn't over here to promote WM or talk about wrestling - he was in England, solely to plug 'The Game Plan'.. So what a stupid thing to say.. Speaking of stupid things to say.. I love it when Punk gets hardly any reaction. I'm guessing you must have some kind of waxy build-up in your ears, or something - because you seem to have some trouble with your hearing.. Punk gets a great reaction, every time he steps through the curtain..
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Post by Quanthor on Mar 25, 2008 0:17:50 GMT -5
You know, Khali is not as bad as everyone makes him out to be. I'm still shocked the majority of the people said that Giant Gonzalez was superior.
He can only do what he can for his size, especially since all of his opponents are a fraction of himself.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Mar 25, 2008 0:32:58 GMT -5
I think this is why i like SD more and more, there is more than 3 matches, the breaks are every quarter hour instead of every 5 minutes and there is quality dip-dabbed throughout the show. The only reason there are less ads in SD is because it's off tape.. We get RAW live - therefore, we have to have ad breaks when they do.. it's annoying, but it's unavoidable - as all US programming is like that.. Orton = weakest looking WWE champion, ever.. He was just booked to tap out to a damn near, 60 year old man.. How can he be seen as a credible champion now?.. Having Orton retain at WM would be the worst thing imaginable - becase the majority of fans are going to be watching WM, to see Orton lose the belt.. It's like a lot of people on here are now starting to come around to Cena - because it's taken having a champ as dull and bland as Orton, for people to appreciate what a good job Cena did, while holding the belt..
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Post by Dan on Mar 25, 2008 4:29:13 GMT -5
Ric Flair stole the show yet again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2008 6:39:14 GMT -5
Did finlay have the HHH logo on his singlet tonight?
It sure looked like it.
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Post by BV on Mar 25, 2008 7:37:27 GMT -5
I lol'ed at how Orton was trying to escape the Figure Four..it looked funny.
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Post by Graze on Mar 25, 2008 8:24:35 GMT -5
You know, Khali is not as bad as everyone makes him out to be. I'm still shocked the majority of the people said that Giant Gonzalez was superior. He can only do what he can for his size, especially since all of his opponents are a fraction of himself. No, he's bad. Hear the reaction he gets when he comes out? oh yeah, there isn't one! The guy is big, slow and useless. WWE already has tons of guys on their roster like that. I understand he's limited to what he can do, but the Big Show, when he was fatter, was so much better in the ring. As for Raw, Ric Flair saved the show. What an awesome promo he and HBK had. My two biggest issues with Raw. The Big Show, he went from heel to face to heel to face again. . WWE make up your mind, do you want him heel or face? He can't be both at the sametime. My other issue is with how Orton was booked. I understand no one believes he's winning at mania, but could you at least make him look credible, make him look like a threat. You have to make it seem like Orton has chance to win the match, much like the other guys have. why is your champ, who I'm guessing is in the main event, jobbing the week before mania? Sometimes I wonder WTF the WWE is doing.
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Post by shenmue on Mar 25, 2008 8:33:18 GMT -5
Raw was shockingly bad last night, im just glad i dont have to pay for Wrestlemania.
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Post by v/\v on Mar 25, 2008 10:05:50 GMT -5
Hence my dislike for the guy. He came over to our country for a week and hit 3-5 shows and looked about as interested in Wrestlemania as my dad, couldn't give a ****. I'm sure he will be plugging his next theatrical bomb. He wasn't over here to promote WM or talk about wrestling - he was in England, solely to plug 'The Game Plan'.. So what a stupid thing to say.. Speaking of stupid things to say.. I love it when Punk gets hardly any reaction. I'm guessing you must have some kind of waxy build-up in your ears, or something - because you seem to have some trouble with your hearing.. Punk gets a great reaction, every time he steps through the curtain.. That's not my point, he didn't bring it up but when the presenters brought up the subject of wrestling and his time in wwe, he looked like he didn't want to know of its existence. And Punk, he gets the best reaction on ECW but that's not saying much, whenever i have seen him on PPV or Raw, it's not that great of a reaction and then when he says "What's my name?" the tumbleweed blows by.
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Post by v/\v on Mar 25, 2008 10:15:08 GMT -5
I think this is why i like SD more and more, there is more than 3 matches, the breaks are every quarter hour instead of every 5 minutes and there is quality dip-dabbed throughout the show. The only reason there are less ads in SD is because it's off tape.. We get RAW live - therefore, we have to have ad breaks when they do.. it's annoying, but it's unavoidable - as all US programming is like that.. Orton = weakest looking WWE champion, ever.. He was just booked to tap out to a damn near, 60 year old man.. How can he be seen as a credible champion now?.. Having Orton retain at WM would be the worst thing imaginable - becase the majority of fans are going to be watching WM, to see Orton lose the belt.. It's like a lot of people on here are now starting to come around to Cena - because it's taken having a champ as dull and bland as Orton, for people to appreciate what a good job Cena did, while holding the belt.. I know, but that wasn't my main point, the overall quality of the matches and segments vast out weigh what Raw is putting on atm, if you think other wise, frankly you are an idiot. Orton, has been booked wrongly as champ to make Tripper look like the king of the world, it is not Orton's fault, it is Trips just palying his games of subtlely humbling his rivals for the main spot in the company. It makes me sick. They should put Orton over at Mania but won't, that would make him look like a strong champ but they won't do that because Triple H beats all in their opinion. Which is sad considering he has been around for 8 years at the top, they just don't want to make any new top-line Rock/Austin/Trips/Taker, superstars, Oton is more than capable of taking Triple H's place which Trips has held down for 8 years and 2 years too long.
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Post by Quanthor on Mar 25, 2008 13:20:47 GMT -5
You know, Khali is not as bad as everyone makes him out to be. I'm still shocked the majority of the people said that Giant Gonzalez was superior. He can only do what he can for his size, especially since all of his opponents are a fraction of himself. No, he's bad. Hear the reaction he gets when he comes out? oh yeah, there isn't one! The guy is big, slow and useless. WWE already has tons of guys on their roster like that. I understand he's limited to what he can do, but the Big Show, when he was fatter, was so much better in the ring. I'm still mesmerized by his size every time I see him go down to the ring, which is exactly what he is used for. This guy is not a natural wrestler, but he has improved substantially over the last few months as far as his capabilities will allow him to go. Seriously, people today only want fast , athletic new breed wrestlers who do flips and twirls, they seem to forget there is a different element to the show than that. Honestly, Big Show is lousy too, but he has MIC skills and excellent ring psychology and for that he gets a pass. Andre the Giant would get booed out of the building if he performed today, because he lacked a healthy move set and couldn't sell moves very well. People over scrutinize these big guys, but they seem to forget, it's difficult to suspend belief when you are twice the size of your opponent and you have to take shots and somehow make it seem real. Not to mention, as stated before, he can't do many moves on a guy that's a fraction of his size, nor could he possibly pull off the maneuvers that the smaller guys can. I think Khali does quite well utilizing his size into his performance(which is all he's required to do), but again since he can't do a swanton he's garbage
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Mar 25, 2008 13:24:01 GMT -5
That Flair/HBK promo was amazing
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Post by The Best on Mar 25, 2008 13:40:13 GMT -5
I agree that Flair/HBK promo was very good. They gave Flair alot of time on the mic and it really helped the buildup to there match at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2008 13:42:05 GMT -5
And Punk, he gets the best reaction on ECW but that's not saying much, whenever i have seen him on PPV or Raw, it's not that great of a reaction and then when he says "What's my name?" the tumbleweed blows by.lmfao, I was about to say that. I always lol @ it being like "..." when he shouts "WHAT'S MY NAME?!?!?1111~". xD
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Post by J12 on Mar 25, 2008 14:19:50 GMT -5
Great Raw as far as I'm concerned. I was actually intrigued by some of the matches and interested in tuning into the whole thing for the first time in months.
Really looking forward to Wrestlemania now.
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Post by Graze on Mar 25, 2008 14:45:33 GMT -5
No, he's bad. Hear the reaction he gets when he comes out? oh yeah, there isn't one! The guy is big, slow and useless. WWE already has tons of guys on their roster like that. I understand he's limited to what he can do, but the Big Show, when he was fatter, was so much better in the ring. I'm still mesmerized by his size every time I see him go down to the ring, which is exactly what he is used for. This guy is not a natural wrestler, but he has improved substantially over the last few months as far as his capabilities will allow him to go. Seriously, people today only want fast , athletic new breed wrestlers who do flips and twirls, they seem to forget there is a different element to the show than that. Honestly, Big Show is lousy too, but he has MIC skills and excellent ring psychology and for that he gets a pass. Andre the Giant would get booed out of the building if he performed today, because he lacked a healthy move set and couldn't sell moves very well. People over scrutinize these big guys, but they seem to forget, it's difficult to suspend belief when you are twice the size of your opponent and you have to take shots and somehow make it seem real. Not to mention, as stated before, he can't do many moves on a guy that's a fraction of his size, nor could he possibly pull off the maneuvers that the smaller guys can. I think Khali does quite well utilizing his size into his performance(which is all he's required to do), but again since he can't do a swanton he's garbage Whats wrong with fast athletic new breed wrestling? I'm not saying every guy on the roster has to do a swanton, but c'mon, they should be able to make a match at least watchable. Khali can't even do that. The guy is useless. Improved in what way? he walks to the ring like a step faster? He's useless. You can't do anything with him. Hell, at one point they were scared to put him on live TV! He should of been let go after his feud with Taker. There is no upside to having Khali on the roster what so ever. You could use the TV on pushing someone or getting behind a heel the crowd gives a damn about.
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Post by Quanthor on Mar 25, 2008 14:58:00 GMT -5
I'm still mesmerized by his size every time I see him go down to the ring, which is exactly what he is used for. This guy is not a natural wrestler, but he has improved substantially over the last few months as far as his capabilities will allow him to go. Seriously, people today only want fast , athletic new breed wrestlers who do flips and twirls, they seem to forget there is a different element to the show than that. Honestly, Big Show is lousy too, but he has MIC skills and excellent ring psychology and for that he gets a pass. Andre the Giant would get booed out of the building if he performed today, because he lacked a healthy move set and couldn't sell moves very well. People over scrutinize these big guys, but they seem to forget, it's difficult to suspend belief when you are twice the size of your opponent and you have to take shots and somehow make it seem real. Not to mention, as stated before, he can't do many moves on a guy that's a fraction of his size, nor could he possibly pull off the maneuvers that the smaller guys can. I think Khali does quite well utilizing his size into his performance(which is all he's required to do), but again since he can't do a swanton he's garbage Whats wrong with fast athletic new breed wrestling? I'm not saying every guy on the roster has to do a swanton, but c'mon, they should be able to make a match at least watchable. Khali can't even do that. The guy is useless. Improved in what way? he walks to the ring like a step faster? He's useless. You can't do anything with him. Hell, at one point they were scared to put him on live TV! He should of been let go after his feud with Taker. There is no upside to having Khali on the roster what so ever. You could use the TV on pushing someone or getting behind a heel the crowd gives a damn about. I never said there was anything wrong with new breed wrestling, but the expectations for big guys to do what the little guys can is asking for too much and that's the reason why people don't get behind him. I already stated what he is used for, obviously the WWE has had guys like him throughout their history and used them all precisely the same and it was successful. It worked back then and if you ask me it still works today. The only issue are the fans who need all of their superstars to be athletic, but like I said, there are different types of performers in professional wrestling because it's a brand of entertainment and you need diversity. To me, if all the wrestlers were the same, it would make for bland television which is why I'm happy to see the likes of Khali in the industry.
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