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Post by thegalaxy on Nov 2, 2007 21:57:06 GMT -5
The promo on Roode by Rikishi was horrible, I even made a post about it. But Lance Storm needs to shut up. He's retired, he shouldn't be bashing TNA all the time for no reason. He's more annoying than 95% of the members on WF.
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Post by Cass on Nov 2, 2007 22:06:07 GMT -5
But...but.... he just wanted to be serious for a moment.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Nov 2, 2007 22:16:54 GMT -5
As somebody else said, the reason he criticizes is because he cares. I respect anyone who is intelligent, insightful and passionate, and he is all of those things. Just because he wasn't great on the mic doesn't mean he can't voice his opinion. I'm sure you guys criticize other athletes and musicians on a somewhat regular basis...just because you can't do what they do doesn't mean you lack the understanding or the ability to voice your concern.
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Post by compton on Nov 3, 2007 2:45:49 GMT -5
As somebody else said, the reason he criticizes is because he cares. I respect anyone who is intelligent, insightful and passionate, and he is all of those things. Just because he wasn't great on the mic doesn't mean he can't voice his opinion. I'm sure you guys criticize other athletes and musicians on a somewhat regular basis...just because you can't do what they do doesn't mean you lack the understanding or the ability to voice your concern. Exactly. Lance Storm is the Henry Rollins of professional wrestling. |
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Nov 3, 2007 8:14:40 GMT -5
As somebody else said, the reason he criticizes is because he cares. I respect anyone who is intelligent, insightful and passionate, and he is all of those things. Just because he wasn't great on the mic doesn't mean he can't voice his opinion. I'm sure you guys criticize other athletes and musicians on a somewhat regular basis...just because you can't do what they do doesn't mean you lack the understanding or the ability to voice your concern. Exactly. Lance Storm is the Henry Rollins of professional wrestling. Literally. |
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Post by taker1 on Nov 4, 2007 8:23:22 GMT -5
I accept Lance Storm was a great wrestler, but what has he actually achieved with regards to running a national wrestling company that gives him the right to slam TNA for every single freaking thing. TNA is not perfect, but neither is WWE, ROH, etc. Why is it always TNA seemingly being singled out by him? How many times must it be said- TNA gets picked on BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T ACHIEVED HUGE SUCCESS in the wrestling world like WWE has. WWE is the biggest wrestling company in the world today. They've established themselves, so they don't need to be picked on. TNA isn't establised. |
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Post by Cammi Oh on Nov 4, 2007 11:01:51 GMT -5
Lance should get hired. He could systematically improve the program
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Post by javon on Nov 4, 2007 19:29:48 GMT -5
Funny how he always Bashes TNA and not the WWE aswell, Ohhh thats Right he's in the Alumni Section on WWE.com how stupid of me! No, it's because the WWE is what it is. TNA, on the other hand, claim to be the "new face of pro-wrestling" when in fact they're the old face of WCW. |
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Post by Too Sweet on Nov 4, 2007 20:43:46 GMT -5
At least we got something OTHER than the WWE, People would get sick of just watching the One Promotion all the time...
And I really think that Lance Storm doesn't want to Cripple his Relationship with the WWE in my opinion, they may want him back.
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Nov 4, 2007 21:40:48 GMT -5
Something other than WWE?
Looks like the same crapto me just less organized and with diffrent people.
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Post by HooliganZ on Nov 4, 2007 21:54:40 GMT -5
Hey Lance STFU and get back into wrestling insted of critizing everyone else. And talking about someone else's mic skills? I think Lance got the "boring" gimmik for a reason. He kinda broke his neck thanks to everybody's favorite no-talent should be mid-carder Christan Cage. |
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Post by Too Sweet on Nov 4, 2007 23:36:14 GMT -5
I accept Lance Storm was a great wrestler, but what has he actually achieved with regards to running a national wrestling company that gives him the right to slam TNA for every single freaking thing. TNA is not perfect, but neither is WWE, ROH, etc. Why is it always TNA seemingly being singled out by him? How many times must it be said- TNA gets picked on BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T ACHIEVED HUGE SUCCESS in the wrestling world like WWE has. WWE is the biggest wrestling company in the world today. They've established themselves, so they don't need to be picked on. TNA isn't establised. Maybe because the fact that the has been around for like 30+ Years, they were around when Wrestling was on a Rise and No-one had seen it before, Unlike when TNA started and they had to compete with the Company who is basically the Juggernaut of Wrestling, back when the WWWF Started they didn't have sh*t like that going on, What TNA has done in the Past 5 Years is an Achievement, People seem to push things to quick, TNA can't just go from Nothing to the Level the WWE is on in 5 Years, It takes time AND Money to do so. |
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Post by CSUMB84 on Nov 5, 2007 2:53:23 GMT -5
How many times must it be said- TNA gets picked on BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T ACHIEVED HUGE SUCCESS in the wrestling world like WWE has. WWE is the biggest wrestling company in the world today. They've established themselves, so they don't need to be picked on. TNA isn't establised. Maybe because the fact that the has been around for like 30+ Years, they were around when Wrestling was on a Rise and No-one had seen it before, Unlike when TNA started and they had to compete with the Company who is basically the Juggernaut of Wrestling, back when the WWWF Started they didn't have sh*t like that going on, What TNA has done in the Past 5 Years is an Achievement, People seem to push things to quick, TNA can't just go from Nothing to the Level the WWE is on in 5 Years, It takes time AND Money to do so. You sound like a typical TNA fan who wears rose colored glasses, believing everything TNA does is right and anyone who criticises them is picking on them or being a WWE-homer. WWE had no competitors? I don't know if your ignorant of wrestling history or ignorant in general but when WWE first started, you know the WWWF at the time, it was during the territorial days and there were many of those. For example, WWE stayed in the Northeast Region of New York and then you had the following: Harley Race's Kansas territory WCCW in Texas, AWA in Minnestoa/Chicago/Milwaukee San Francisco Region Detroit Region (runned by the Original Shiek) St.Louis Region Championship Wrestling from Florida Georgia Championship Wrestling Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling (Which would go on to become Jim Crockett Promotions which would become WCW) Mid-South Wrestling UWF and many more that I as most likely forgetting, all wanting their promotions to be the best to have the best wrestlers come in to elevate their talent and status. In addition, TNA has had money pumped into them by Panda Energy yet have never turned a profit in all their years of existence. They lost more money in 04 or 05 than the original ECW lost in their seven year existence. At some point, Panda Express and perhaps Spike TV are going to stop throwing money into this black hole unless they start seeing some results and that starts with the company and how they go about their business. Furthermore, TNA has had a plethora of opportunities to be on the same level or close to WWE in the past 5 years but have failed miserably with bonehead decesions and their ability to place the blame on anything they can find. At what point does TNA stop blaming all their failures on petty excuses and take a hard look in the mirror? At first it was because they were only on Wednesday night PPV and needed television time. They got TV time on FSN and then it was they needed a better network so they got onto Spike TV with heavy promotion and a lead in from UFC. Then it was they needed primetime slots and once they got primetime slot, the excuse was they needed a two-hour slot to showcase their talent and guess what? They have their two-hour slot and have done squat with it. With bonehead decesions, where do I start? How bout not putting the title on Monty Brown at Final Resolution 2005 when he was the most over guy in the company and could have put TNA in mainstream attention with his crossover appeal to FSN and ESPN shows where he could have talked about life on the gridiron and in the ring and given casual sports fans who may not have heard about TNA a reason to check it out. Another one has been doing away with the X-Division. Why go away from what brought you to the dance and got people talking about the company in its infant days? Say what you will about WCW but during its dying days and at its peek, it heavily promoted and showcased its cruiser weight division as one of the main attractions and not just as throw-away matches that serve no purpose. For strike 3, how bout not putting the title on Samoa Joe, who has been the most over wrestler in the company the last 2 freaking years, or utilizing homegrown talents such as Christopher Daniels but rather signing ever Tom, Dick and Harry that gets released from WWE and showcasing them. Like Matt Bentley said, if Kurt Angle couldn't help improve ratings, did TNA really think guys like Test, the Bashams, Rikishi, Dustin Rhodes and Matt Morgan would? You talk about dropping the ball with someone....behind Brown and Joe, Daniels is the one TNA should be ashamed of. This man was on the cusp of main-event status with his triple threat match for the X-Division title against Styles and Joe at Unbreakable 2005. And what did TNA do with him after that and where is he now? I rest may case. |
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Post by Too Sweet on Nov 5, 2007 3:13:15 GMT -5
In the Past 5 Years? What the F*ck are you Smoking?
So you think TNA's going to already be on WWE's Level when they had WAY more Known guys like HHH, Austin, The Rock, Undertaker, Brock Lesnar, Goldberg, Big Show ect...?
F*ck no, the Only " Known, Known " guy TNA had was like Jeff Jarrett and Scott Hall, all the Others where mostly Unknown Wrestlers to the General Public, and Trust me, I don't think TNA's done everything right, Every company has its faults, I f*cking hate Black Rein, VKM won't stfu about the WWE and I don't like the Fact that TNA is making Kurt Angle their Saviour.
Note the fact that from 2002-2005 most Wrestlers came and went, Most wrestlers that went by in TNA didn't even stay for long and went back to the Indy Scene or left Wrestling altogether, When Christian came in 2005, TNA had like 5 Wrestlers who the Public might have Recognized.
Do you really think that TNA can just go from Nothing to WWE Level in 5 Years? Your talking Nonsense to be Honest also not to mention the fact that Pro Wrestling as a Whole is on a Slump since the WWE bought out WCW and ECW.
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Post by CSUMB84 on Nov 5, 2007 4:09:22 GMT -5
In the Past 5 Years? What the F*ck are you Smoking? So you think TNA's going to already be on WWE's Level when they had WAY more Known guys like HHH, Austin, The Rock, Undertaker, Brock Lesnar, Goldberg, Big Show ect...? F*ck no, the Only " Known, Known " guy TNA had was like Jeff Jarrett and Scott Hall, all the Others where mostly Unknown Wrestlers to the General Public, and Trust me, I don't think TNA's done everything right, Every company has its faults, I f*cking hate Black Rein, VKM won't stfu about the WWE and I don't like the Fact that TNA is making Kurt Angle their Saviour. Note the fact that from 2002-2005 most Wrestlers came and went, Most wrestlers that went by in TNA didn't even stay for long and went back to the Indy Scene or left Wrestling altogether, When Christian came in 2005, TNA had like 5 Wrestlers who the Public might have Recognized. Do you really think that TNA can just go from Nothing to WWE Level in 5 Years? Your talking Nonsense to be Honest also not to mention the fact that Pro Wrestling as a Whole is on a Slump since the WWE bought out WCW and ECW. Pro wrestling in a dry spell....no wrestlers the public would have recognized....from nothing to big time...GEE isn't that what the original ECW did back in 1994 when pro wrestling was in a dry spell? Didn't the original ECW come in and become a breath of fresh air with something original and counter-culture that was different from what WCW and WWE were doing at the time by focusing on the positives and hiding the negatives whereas TNA seems to get that a$$-backwards? TNA had its chance to be something different, they even built themselves as the new generation/foundation of professional wrestling but are now nothing more than WCW 2007. |
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Post by Too Sweet on Nov 5, 2007 8:12:03 GMT -5
Maybe because ECW had a Different Style of Wrestling the US Public never saw before??
And the fact that the 90's is WAYYY Different to our times now seals the deal, Do you honestly think that something new can be done in Wrestling? We've basically seen it all before, at Least TNA gets the Wrestling part right, Which is what most Viewers watch it for.
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Post by CSUMB84 on Nov 5, 2007 17:28:22 GMT -5
Maybe because ECW had a Different Style of Wrestling the US Public never saw before?? And the fact that the 90's is WAYYY Different to our times now seals the deal, Do you honestly think that something new can be done in Wrestling? We've basically seen it all before, at Least TNA gets the Wrestling part right, Which is what most Viewers watch it for. Right there you have made my point for me. Pointing to another excuse for TNA being in the position it is rather than saying its mostly TNA's fault due to their own problems, such as the booking. Yes, something different can be done that hasn't been seen before in pro wrestling and Paul Heyman has that idea, which is some idea he has to cross wrestling with MMA, which is the hottest thing right now. Yes, TNA has great wrestling but they don't utilize it or make that their focal point, which goes back to where ECW made that a point to show it as a positive. But rather, TNA tries to act like WWE with the set-ups, the promo's, the pyro and it just ends up feeling like a bush league rip-off. When a company such as TNA has Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, and up-and-comers like Alex Shelly, Chris Sabin, Petey Williams, Jay Lethal, and LAX, these are the guys TNA should be making MEGA stars out of like how ECW did with Taz, Sabu, Raven, Tommy Dreamer, and 2 Cold Scorpio instead of wasting their money and time putting over a wannabe NFL thug who got a man paralyzed, guys whose best years were a decade ago and every single person WWE releases and it all goes back to the booking. |
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Post by javon on Nov 5, 2007 17:50:29 GMT -5
At least we got something OTHER than the WWE, People would get sick of just watching the One Promotion all the time... And I really think that Lance Storm doesn't want to Cripple his Relationship with the WWE in my opinion, they may want him back. Yeah, and it's called Ring of Honor. |
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Post by Too Sweet on Nov 5, 2007 20:08:36 GMT -5
Don't think the Public wants to buy DVD's all the time to be honest...
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Post by Adam on Nov 5, 2007 20:38:35 GMT -5
Who says they have to?
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