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Post by Random Hero Est. 2003 on Nov 10, 2007 12:51:55 GMT -5
I sometimes feel like people expect way too much out of TNA. Sure, they kind of kicked themselves in the ass by competing directly with WWE too quickly, but they've been a brand for only 5 years. has been around since the 60's. TNA will continue to flourish into being the solidified number two company and they will stay there for a long time. Just like any company, TNA is in a little bit of a rut, but I believe they will rise out and put out great television. Just give TNA time and let them grow, they will do good.
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Post by denhambrown on Nov 10, 2007 14:15:21 GMT -5
does it have to start in the exact same place another company ended at though?
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Post by alessicustoms2 on Nov 10, 2007 14:41:29 GMT -5
TNA has it's faults thats understandable but they need to change the booking team soon or they will Die ,by the way I enjoy TNA alot I just want them to succeed.
Edit : Or Just Fire Mantell hes the reason why things really suck and Hire Paul F'N Heyman
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2007 16:05:24 GMT -5
I don't see Russo and Heyman meshing well together
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Post by Adam on Nov 10, 2007 16:11:20 GMT -5
Yes, I'm fully aware that TNA has only been in existence for 5 years. But at the same time, they've had plenty of missed opportunities. They dropped the ball on Monty Brown. I personally find him overrated as a wrestler, but he was the most over wrestler in 2004-5 (from what I'm told), yet they wouldn't put the title on him. Two years later, it's Samoa Joe, the most over wrestler in TNA (and more talented than Brown), yet they never put the title on him because he hurt some feelings with an innocent comment.
What about Christopher Daniels? Why is he stuck in the re-hashed XXX instead of main eventing? If I can recall, he tore the house down in the Unbreakable main event with Styles and Joe. Why does managment/creative feel that he 'can't' main event all of a sudden?
On a positive note, TNA's last two impacts have been much better. Hopefully it continues to improve. But the main point I'm trying to make is that TNA can't afford to make the same mistakes that WWE has made because of what you said, they're only 5 years old. WWE can make all the mistakes they want, they've got enough casual viewers and notoriety that will last them a lifetime. In order to succeed, TNA needs to capitalize on opportunities and not blow them.
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Post by CSUMB84 on Nov 10, 2007 22:26:56 GMT -5
Thank you ARR. Finally, someone else agrees with what I have been saying about TNA and them dropping the ball with Brown and Joe.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Nov 10, 2007 22:33:16 GMT -5
I don't see Russo and Heyman meshing well together Then fire Russo too. Say what you want about Vince McMahon, but he generally knows how to put personal feelings aside when there's money to be made. Or at least he did 5 years ago.
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Post by Matt on Nov 10, 2007 23:08:35 GMT -5
They have their pros and cons. I think they are too gimmicky and have some of the dumbest matches ever. Also they have dropped two bigs balls (Monty Brown and more importantly, Samoa Joe). However, they have good talent and a decent booking team. Hopefully, they can get their act together.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Nov 11, 2007 0:32:29 GMT -5
Also they have dropped two bigs balls Goodnight, everybody!
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Post by Overnight Sensation on Nov 11, 2007 0:35:46 GMT -5
Also they have dropped two bigs balls Goodnight, everybody! Zing
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Nov 11, 2007 0:41:05 GMT -5
I don't see Russo and Heyman meshing well together Then fire Russo too. Say what you want about Vince McMahon, but he generally knows how to put personal feelings aside when there's money to be made. Or at least he did 5 years ago. Vince doesn't have to put his feelings aside right now, until someone steps up, scuffs his shoes, and can put a dent in his ratings, he can do what he wants. Only man in the game at his level. TNA CAN do it, for some reason it's choosing not to. Jarrett knows that if his crew stepped aside, let Cornette, Russo(with someone saying yes or no to him, it's hoe he worked in WWE) or Heyman book it, they could kick WWE in the balls and get ready for a fight at the flag pole. BUT JJ seems to think that what he does and letting his friends and all the old talent dominate the show is what will garner HUGE ratings. Sting can't, he's entertaining, but he doesn't even work a full committed schedule for them. Angle wants to put over young guys and help TNA. There's a clash in how the company should run with everyone there it seems like. I say put Cornette and Heyman in a room, tell them to put feeling aside, book a show that will get them enough ratings to where WWE might feel threatened. They could do it.
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Post by Adam on Nov 11, 2007 11:19:54 GMT -5
Thank you ARR. Finally, someone else agrees with what I have been saying about TNA and them dropping the ball with Brown and Joe. The funny part is that people try to make excuses for the fact that Joe isn't champion. Looks like they'll have to wait until next year to bring back the "They're setting him up to win at BFG" excuse. I wonder what they will use next...
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Post by Ollie on Nov 11, 2007 15:50:21 GMT -5
Also they have dropped two bigs balls. I thought that happened when you were 12, not when you were 5
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Nov 11, 2007 22:03:48 GMT -5
Then fire Russo too. Say what you want about Vince McMahon, but he generally knows how to put personal feelings aside when there's money to be made. Or at least he did 5 years ago. Vince doesn't have to put his feelings aside right now, until someone steps up, scuffs his shoes, and can put a dent in his ratings, he can do what he wants. Only man in the game at his level. I was referring more to when he hired Eric Bischoff, whom he legitimately didn't like, back in 2002. He put personal feelings aside because he saw the opportunity to make money. The TNA bookers should do the same with Heyman.
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Post by The Mania© on Nov 12, 2007 2:57:48 GMT -5
I hate the fact that AJ Styles went from being the "Mr. TNA" top star that he was, to being the idiot sidekick for a former WWE guy. Part of what attracted me to watch TNA in the first place was seeing the smaller guy in the title picture, and being the champion.
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Post by Mark on Nov 12, 2007 3:04:32 GMT -5
Why cant TNA learn from past companies mistake so they survive longer
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Post by deskjet on Nov 12, 2007 11:59:48 GMT -5
I agree with everything you gys said. I was behind this company until about the fiasco of putting the title on pacman jones. No build up whatso ever, the tease of a rejuvinated tag division and you give it to two scrubs, one that cant wrestle in tna and one that doesnt want to wrestle in TNA...great booking
Then, they bring in every old WWE talent under the sun week after week...test, Goldust...ok, thats fine...then rikishi, Nash back in the pciture, Hall, booker T, and insteda having Joe chase Angle for the belt he feuds with Christian, and Sting get the belt? HUH? I like Angle casue he's got character, but drop sting, nash, hall, rikishi, outta my freakin tv. While you're at it, get rid of VKM or change their damn gimmick, its a cheap pop for WWE every time. team 3D? your not scary anymore, your annoying, lose to MCMG and get out. Steiners-eaithe rgive em the straps or get rid of them. Hall and NAsh...FN YAWN!!!! No one cares about the NWO anymore. Ya know why DX is till cool? because they can still go and they can relate to the fans. Their not bloated crippled old men trying to navigate around in the ring.
So yea, TNA has had more than enough opportunities, hell in the past 6 months when WWE is spiriling outta control, this woulda been a perfect time to distinguish themselves, but instead they rehash the same old crap we've seen before. Bischoff was right, they dont get it....this is not W FN C W!
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Post by Jasee on Nov 12, 2007 16:14:02 GMT -5
tna is going to kill themselves much like wcw if they dont push their own talent instead of pre-established stars
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Nov 12, 2007 16:22:49 GMT -5
I love that excuse for TNA getting low ratings and producing bad shows
"Give them more time"
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Post by deskjet on Nov 13, 2007 11:37:55 GMT -5
I love that excuse for TNA getting low ratings and producing bad shows "Give them more time" I agree. And i've oficially jumped off that band wagon. they've had more than enough time
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