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Post by HR2X on Mar 29, 2008 1:09:43 GMT -5
Both customs are nicely done.
Gate: I like the texture on the tank top.. it looks like you sculpted it in two separate portions though. That line down either side of the torso is bothering me. Beret/ hair sculpt looks very nice. I would have liked to see the camo pattern continued onto the pant pockets (like they are in the LJN figure)
Scotthall: Nice job, though the DA parts do look odd.. especially around the crotch area (blame Jakks for that) Head sculpting/ skin tone painting are great, I love the tonal range on the chest and head. I wish you would have removed the tape from the bottom of the feet. I also wish you would have shown some non-photoshopped pics. Also, some better angles would have been better as well.. even if they're just closeups of the logos or pant sides. Also, how much of that head did you sculpt?
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Post by austinsc on Mar 29, 2008 1:19:49 GMT -5
Ok.......i will not let this go down
for the people who picked gatecitys custom over scottxxnwo's custom, you must not be able to see very well, scotts haku is very detailed, dead on face, with dead on attire, with dead on skin tone, very nice sculpting, and very smooth painting, only thing i could dig for and find is he has no nipples lol, but a very good job, gatecitys custom is...ok, not to start a fight but.....the sculpting is ok, there are cracks in the body line that are too larg, the hair and beard are very glossy, no detail at all, and he didnt even paint skin tone, his looks more like a fix-up, everyone needs to re-think there votes, scott's haku wins.....notthing else to be said, in my mind he wins by a landslide, and thats the truth
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Post by gatecitysinner on Mar 29, 2008 1:42:28 GMT -5
Tell us how you really feel, it seemed like you held back there.
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Post by hbk on Mar 29, 2008 2:03:16 GMT -5
Ok. Since now I have been updated on the figure "rules" (I put them in quotes only because technically there isn't any rules to this since there is no actual judging.) But here is my official decision. I apologize for any misunderstanding.
So the stipulation was a WWF superstar that was a LJN figure only to be remade into a DA/RA form. First off I commend both of you since there is a competition coming up that you are in and both still took time out to make a figure on the side on such short notice. Not only that but to bring figures to this magnitude shows me that the desire to just create a figure is beyond just competing its a desire to bring the best out of each other. So with that said congrats to both of you on making such great figures. Now on to judging
Gatecitysinner Kirshner: A good figure the painting is smooth as well as the sculpting of the shirt hat and hair. The dog tag was a nice touch. What I liked the most was the fact that you went the extra mile and re-sculpted the pockets on the side. But I don't understand is why if you went that far why not also re-sculpt the belt as well? And I also think that the crack on the side should have been sculpted over as well so that we don't see it.
scottxxnwoxxhall Haku: Again a good figure the painting is smooth I like the fact that the figures head is sculpted it was done really well. However I would have liked to see the side view since the colors and the figure was painted but was quite simple so I could see the design. another thing is that the Haku figure does not have tape on the whole foot as apposed to having them just around the ankles, so that lack of accuracy is also something that should have been looked into.
Final decision: As much as I like both figures and that both also had the same length of minor flaws but really just tiny ones. nothing big at all. But my vote is for scottxxnwoxxhall because even though I did not see the design on the side of the tights the the hair and the sculpting of the head was done quite nicely and the crack on the side of Gatecitysinners figure really is what made this decision for me.
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Post by Gonzo Customs on Mar 29, 2008 2:07:32 GMT -5
Tell us how you really feel, it seemed like you held back there. ...like so easy a caveman can do it? Come on, how do you think that makes me feel... ::phone rings:: it's my mom, I'll put her on speaker... ;D
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Post by hbk on Mar 29, 2008 3:00:05 GMT -5
Ok.......i will not let this go down for the people who picked gatecitys custom over scottxxnwo's custom, you must not be able to see very well, scotts haku is very detailed, dead on face, with dead on attire, with dead on skin tone, very nice sculpting, and very smooth painting, only thing i could dig for and find is he has no nipples lol, but a very good job, gatecitys custom is...ok, not to start a fight but.....the sculpting is ok, there are cracks in the body line that are too larg, the hair and beard are very glossy, no detail at all, and he didnt even paint skin tone, his looks more like a fix-up, everyone needs to re-think there votes, scott's haku wins.....notthing else to be said, in my mind he wins by a landslide, and thats the truth Sorry but the truth is everyone is entitled to an opinion whether or not you agree with that decision is not up to you. Just like you are entitled to express your opinion but to tell others they are wrong based on your opinions you might as well call yourself a communist.
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Post by Titantrap: Gold Club Veteran on Mar 29, 2008 3:20:38 GMT -5
The stipulation was to recreate the ljn version faithfully, and while scotthall's Haku is an amazing figure, GCS gets the vote in this case because when it comes down to accuracy, the part choices for Haku do not match up to the ref figure. Now that being said, this fig is a great representation of the real Haku, in the head and torso, but as mentioned, the arms are quite tiny. GCS Corp. is about 85-90% faithful to the ljn version, the only things missing i could see were the pant detail at the bottom and the hair was off a tiny bit. Haku's head was very accurate to the ljn, but the torso, while matching well to the real Haku, didn't remotely match the source figure, nor did the arms and legs, making only abot 70% accurate to source.
vote: GCS
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Post by hbk4champ on Mar 29, 2008 3:27:58 GMT -5
i gotta say scottxxnwoxxhall ftw
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Post by saveus1 on Mar 29, 2008 5:38:42 GMT -5
tough choice but i will have to go with gatecitysinner
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Post by BIGticket5 on Mar 29, 2008 6:13:36 GMT -5
both are amzing, but i prefer the haku
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Post by NYdream™ on Mar 29, 2008 7:02:52 GMT -5
Well...... As I said even though Gate is in a different division he can give anyone a run for their money.........LOL..... Take that deen..... Scotthall-I love the use of DAs since im a huge DA fan...... The Painting looks really smooth...... Looks really good..... Wish i could paint that good....lol.... The head mods look good too..... Overall it is a great custom.... I never doubted that you were a great customizer.... good job...... Gate- I love this custom!!! The parts choice are great....... I love the head and hair mods..... Your sculpting is getting amazing..... Good sculpted shirt...... I know why you didnt talk much during the week..... You were busy working on this great custom..... The painting is good....... I love the headchoice.... I think it is very accurate even though many have said it was a lil off..... Great job gate!!!! Winner-Gatecitysinner Ok.......i will not let this go down for the people who picked gatecitys custom over scottxxnwo's custom, you must not be able to see very well, scotts haku is very detailed, dead on face, with dead on attire, with dead on skin tone, very nice sculpting, and very smooth painting, only thing i could dig for and find is he has no nipples lol, but a very good job, gatecitys custom is...ok, not to start a fight but.....the sculpting is ok, there are cracks in the body line that are too larg, the hair and beard are very glossy, no detail at all, and he didnt even paint skin tone, his looks more like a fix-up, everyone needs to re-think there votes, scott's haku wins.....notthing else to be said, in my mind he wins by a landslide, and thats the truth ok.... i really dont know where your coming from.... Gates custom is a fixup? !!!!! He did more modding and sculpting then Scotthall did!!!!! He sculpted the hair beard hat shirt,etc...... Scott hall moded the head and put it on a DA Umaga body..... It was an amazing skintone and attire paint but Gates was as much of a cutom or more than Halls..... I think its funny how you called a figure more sculpted then its opponent a fix up.... you obviously dont know what your talking about.... And who says how glossy the sealer one uses makes it a worse custom.... Maybe you should rethink your vote......
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Post by plasticsuperstar on Mar 29, 2008 7:48:23 GMT -5
Kirschner - Excellent custom, I love the sculpting on the shirt, it really reminds me of the LJN figure even before looking at the ref pic. The other sculpting is also very well done, the beret looks great and although the head doesn't look perfectly like the real Kirschner it is pretty close and keeps the RA style (it's as close as or closer than than some actual CS sculpts) The painting is all really nice, the only slight flaw is the pink area of the camo look a bit bright. The thing I like best about this figure is the overall finish, it would fit right in with a CS collection which is the thing I look for most in customs and is also the stipulation for the match. Even though a couple of other areas could've been sculpted (trouser bottoms and belt) I don't think it needs it, keeping some familiar RA parts makes it look more like an RA and there is enough sculpting to make it accurate without going over the top with too much sculpting. Overall I can't really fault Gatecitysinner's custom.
Haku - Another excellent custom, really nice to see a figure of him as he's one of my biggest wants for CS and I've never seen a custom of him before. The sculpting on the head is superb, it captures the likeness really well. The only slight flaw in the face is it's not very smooth. The painting looks amazing from what I can see, I wouldn't mark him down for posting bad pics but maybe I would've given him extra marks for the designs if I'd seen them and if the figure had been shown in multiple poses it may have looked more impressive because the pose that it's shown in emphasizes the strange shape of the body parts (I know that's Jakks' fault but I would've chosen RA parts that look more suitable for Haku or I would've scuplted over some of the parts to try to get them better proportioned). Although the skintone is very nicely done, I'm not a fan of custom skintones at all because it prevents a figure from displaying well with RAs/DAs, if a custom skintone is done really well then I can appreciate the figure in it's own right but as the stipulation is for an RA or DA version etc then I think it's fair to point out that the main thing I don't like about the Haku is the full custom skintone. Scottxxxnwoxxxhall's custom is an awesome piece of work, certain areas are outstanding but other areas let it down.
So overall I would definately have to vote for gatecitysinner because it would fit seemlessly into any CS collection, it has just enough modding to be accurate but not too much keeping it true to the RA style. Scottxxxnwoxxxhall's Haku has certain areas that are more adventurous and original but the overall look of the figure isn't as good and it would look out of place in a CSDA collection.
I would also like to say that I'm in no way biased towards either of the entrants in any way, I don't know either of them personally and I see no reason to consider previous work. If anything I would be slightly drawn to scottxxxnwoxxhall's custom purely because I want a Haku figure so much and this is a very nice version, I just think the Corporal Kirschner is a better custom and fits the stipulation best. Both customs are outstanding though.
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Post by NYdream™ on Mar 29, 2008 7:55:54 GMT -5
i just tallied it up and so far it is
GCS:13
ScottHall:9
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Post by The Warsman on Mar 29, 2008 9:23:08 GMT -5
Sorry to you Gate if got affended.I have notthing against you and you know how much respect i have for you.But some of these votes was just plain awful. How is it 'awful' to say that all things being equal, I didn't like the base choice he picked (the one that looks like 20 lbs. of junk hanging down) so I went with GCS? Now that I know it's a straight-up Umaga, I KNOW it was a poor base choice. Hell, why not just use a Big Show? Or a Rey Misterio? All would be equally bad base choices... Maybe another picture in a different pose would've shown me I was wrong. Maybe not, I'll never know. So presentation matters, as others have pointed out. I don't know why anyone would bash someone for saying a better presentation style is needed, as it obviously is. Stop campaigning for or against people, and like becca said, the contestants aren't bitching about it, why are you? It's an open vote, let the people's voices be heard. The contestants are both big boys, no one has bashed them, so stop trying to sway the voting. WC
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Post by wspaman1313 on Mar 29, 2008 9:27:35 GMT -5
scottxxnwoxxhall takes my vote.
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Post by hbk on Mar 29, 2008 9:45:38 GMT -5
i just tallied it up and so far it is GCS:13 ScottHall:9 you miscounted by 1 vote so the current count is actually Gatecitysinner:13 ScottxxNwoxxHall:12(including the last 2 votes.)
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Post by guster on Mar 29, 2008 13:23:37 GMT -5
This is such a joke. I won't be competing in any events were the "fans" get to vote, that's for sure....
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Post by The Canadian Killer Deen on Mar 29, 2008 13:38:34 GMT -5
it's funny because those who have more knowledge than a simple head switch are voting haku yet those who pretty much never posted a custom in their life are voting gate (sorry if that offends u gate but its the truth)
so im voting scott because it is so accurate and looks really good gate your custom is alright but its not an even match since your in a lower division
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Post by Titantrap: Gold Club Veteran on Mar 29, 2008 13:40:29 GMT -5
I believe those who vote gate are doing so because he followed the stip better, to faithfully recreate the ljn figure.
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Post by The Canadian Killer Deen on Mar 29, 2008 13:46:31 GMT -5
I believe those who vote gate are doing so because he followed the stip better, to faithfully recreate the ljn figure. his custom is different from the ref pic his ref pic didnt have a beard i know there is a varient with a beard but he didnt use that one
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