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Post by newfrigginshow on May 12, 2008 13:00:08 GMT -5
Why not do a heel Joe and let AJ chase the belt? Give him a chance at the belt again. If you prolong the fued and really build it up (showing clips of previous matches and educating people about there history) I think you could have a good PPV buy. If not then what do you have to lose? They've got to stop the quick fixes and hot shot booking. Start slow and simple again. You may get some low numbers in the beginning, but if you start making sense and start giving people a reason to tune in with some simple fueds and letting the personalities of the workers and wrestling tell the story instead of the gimmick matches you may have something to actually build on.
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COCK & BLAST
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Post by COCK & BLAST on May 12, 2008 13:55:34 GMT -5
Blame the entire show being **** Yeah seriously. TNA is just awful, I try to like it but I just can't. I can't even watch a full Impact without changing the channel. |
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Post by Eskimo Joe on May 13, 2008 18:26:38 GMT -5
I think it has more to do with the booking than Joe. I mean, he's in a feud with Scott Steiner. Why should anyone care?
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Post by The Funniest Guy in Pants on May 13, 2008 19:40:52 GMT -5
Put Joe back in the x-division, Stop with the curry man gimmick and give us back the fallen angel, lose the goofy school boy gimmick on aj syles, fire shark boy all together, stop with the macho man knock off on lethal, have sting update his look, keep nash out of wrestling matches, stop jobbing mcmg's, put the tag straps on LAX and give them back their gang mentality, stop with the guitar hero gimmick on the rock and rave infection, end the booker t/roode fued, push james storm and Kaz more, stop with the little petey pump gimmick and go back to canadian muscle and put him back in the x-division, stop with the super eric gimmick, go to one entrance ramp instead of two, go to a 4 sided ring, and get some new announcers. There, anyone else on here think that will help fix TNA? You've got some really great ideas, but I disagree with you on a few things. Curryman can stay for awhile. He's way over, why rock the boat? But when the character does run its course, I don't want to see Christopher Daniels come back as the Fallen Angel, I want to see him repackaged like TNA was going to do a year ago. And painting a fake tattoo on his face and having him talk to the ceiling is not repackaging someone. AJ Styles' current gimmick is fine. The only problem with him is that TNA is doing nothing with him. Nash wrestling every now and again would be ok, just keep him away from a full-time wrestling schedule. I wouldn't mind seeing less of him in the backstage segments too. Put the staps on LAX while building MCMG back up to (i.e: repairing the damage that TNA booking did to them) so LAX can put them over. LAX isn't even half as entertaining as they used to be. I think Konnan took my interest in LAX with him when he left TNA. The Guitar Hero gimmick fits The Rock 'N Rave Infection. The gimmick sucks and they suck. Why are they still around? What's wrong with the two entrance ramps and the six sided ring? I like the separate locker rooms for heels and faces. It's kinda like a half assed attempt at kayfabe. They only changes that need to be made to the iMPACT! Arena is that they need to get rid of the LAX entrance. I thought it was pointless back when LAX was the hottest thing in TNA; it's completely useless now. |
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Post by mrchase on May 13, 2008 20:11:32 GMT -5
I think it has more to do with the booking than Joe. I mean, he's in a feud with Scott Steiner. Why should anyone care? because scott steiner was one of the best , scott steiner is a great wrestler & legend.i don't watch tna for Samoa joe . i watch tna for scott steiner , kurt angle ,sting ,aj styles ,& jeff jarrett. you guys have no repsect for such a great as scott steiner. |
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Post by Adam on May 13, 2008 20:15:39 GMT -5
I think it has more to do with the booking than Joe. I mean, he's in a feud with Scott Steiner. Why should anyone care? because scott steiner was one of the best , scott steiner is a great wrestler & legend.i don't watch tna for Samoa joe . i watch tna for scott steiner , kurt angle ,sting ,aj styles ,& jeff jarrett. you guys have no repsect for such a great as scott steiner. Exactly, WAS one of the best. Now in 2008, he's washed up. |
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Post by mrchase on May 13, 2008 20:31:25 GMT -5
because scott steiner was one of the best , scott steiner is a great wrestler & legend.i don't watch tna for Samoa joe . i watch tna for scott steiner , kurt angle ,sting ,aj styles ,& jeff jarrett. you guys have no repsect for such a great as scott steiner. Exactly, WAS one of the best. Now in 2008, he's washed up. there is no such thing as washed up in wrestling. that is what we called a legend .there is no such thing as washed up in wrestling just ignorant clseminded fans who think like that & show nothing but to disrespect to legends like that .they have no clue what they are talking about at all. most of these kids in tna can learn alot from scott steiners. most of tna does not even know how to work a match right unless they are legend like scott steiner. most of the kids & including joe does not know ring pyschology & that is most important part of wrestle not spots & no selling .scott steiner can shows these kids how to wrestle right & that is why he is there.also scott steiner will never be washed up . he will just be a legend |
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Post by jake_317 on May 13, 2008 20:42:37 GMT -5
Just because he's a legend in your opinion, still doesn't take away from the FACT that he isn't even close to being in the same shape he was 10-15 years ago, which was his prime IMO. Just because he's a legend doesn't mean a ton of people watch IMPACT to see him main event. I like him and Petey, because Petey is getting ring time and a push, but he needs to stay out of the main event and contiune to work with the younger talent. He's not half of what he was and needs to end this title feud.
Joe vs. Stenier won't draw money and that's not because of Joe. TNA needs to be different and stop using guys we've seen for 20 years. The only way TNA will make money is to establish it's self as the "cool alternative." If they don't, they are bound to get the same numbers and won't grow.
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Post by Adam on May 13, 2008 20:48:42 GMT -5
Exactly, WAS one of the best. Now in 2008, he's washed up. there is no such thing as washed up in wrestling. that is what we called a legend .there is no such thing as washed up in wrestling just ignorant clseminded fans who think like that & show nothing but to disrespect to legends like that .they have no clue what they are talking about at all. most of these kids in tna can learn alot from scott steiners. most of tna does not even know how to work a match right unless they are legend like scott steiner. most of the kids & including joe does not know ring pyschology & that is most important part of wrestle not spots & no selling .scott steiner can shows these kids how to wrestle right & that is why he is there.also scott steiner will never be washed up . he will just be a legend No, by washed up, I mean their age has caught up to them, thus affecting their ability to perform in the ring. Scott Steiner is nowhere near as great as he was when he was part of the Steiner brothers, and it clearly shows. The guy is slow. Joe is one of the best on TNA's roster. |
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Post by mrchase on May 13, 2008 20:51:29 GMT -5
Just because he's a legend in your opinion, still doesn't take away from the FACT that he isn't even close to being in the same shape he was 10-15 years ago, which was his prime IMO. Just because he's a legend doesn't mean a ton of people watch IMPACT to see him main event. I like him and Petey, because Petey is getting ring time and a push, but he needs to stay out of the main event and contiune to work with the younger talent. He's not half of what he was and needs to end this title feud. Joe vs. Stenier won't draw money and that's not because of Joe. TNA needs to be different and stop using guys we've seen for 20 years. The only way TNA will make money is to establish it's self as the "cool alternative." If they don't, they are bound to get the same numbers and won't grow. scott steiner is not legend because of my opinion. scott steiner is a legend is a fact . scott steiner is part of the greatest tag team ever the steiner brothers & is a former WCW tv champion,WCW US champion,& WCW world heavywieght champion. so Scott steiner being a legend is a fact .the steiner brothers beat every great tag team ever. steiner draws more then joes does & that is fact . scott steiner is a name compared to joe. if Joe vs. Stenier won't draw money & then it is joes fault not soctt steiners. scott steiner has never stop being a draw. Joe vs. Stenier matches have been better then joe vs angle matches & that is a fact. |
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Post by Adam on May 13, 2008 21:07:18 GMT -5
If Steiner's a draw then why aren't TNA's ratings/buyrates increasing? Don't blame TNA's awful booking on Joe. Steiner being a legend is no excuse for how lousy he wrestles now. EDIT: Joe vs. Stenier matches have been better then joe vs angle matches & that is a fact. This must be by far one of the stupidest things I ever heard. |
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Post by DWright on May 13, 2008 21:19:25 GMT -5
Just because he's a legend in your opinion, still doesn't take away from the FACT that he isn't even close to being in the same shape he was 10-15 years ago, which was his prime IMO. Just because he's a legend doesn't mean a ton of people watch IMPACT to see him main event. I like him and Petey, because Petey is getting ring time and a push, but he needs to stay out of the main event and contiune to work with the younger talent. He's not half of what he was and needs to end this title feud. Joe vs. Stenier won't draw money and that's not because of Joe. TNA needs to be different and stop using guys we've seen for 20 years. The only way TNA will make money is to establish it's self as the "cool alternative." If they don't, they are bound to get the same numbers and won't grow. scott steiner is not legend because of my opinion. scott steiner is a legend is a fact . scott steiner is part of the greatest tag team ever the steiner brothers & is a former WCW tv champion,WCW US champion,& WCW world heavywieght champion. so Scott steiner being a legend is a fact .the steiner brothers beat every great tag team ever. steiner draws more then joes does & that is fact . scott steiner is a name compared to joe. if Joe vs. Stenier won't draw money & then it is joes fault not soctt steiners. scott steiner has never stop being a draw. Joe vs. Stenier matches have been better then joe vs angle matches & that is a fact. Scott Steiner...is that you? |
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Post by goddikon on May 13, 2008 21:29:08 GMT -5
steiner MAY be legendary....but so is Pete Rose....
Steiner was awesome pre-steroid OD. Then he was tolerable for awhile...now he can't even talk, or walk. Im a Steiner fan, always have been. I enjoy his work, if you wanna call it that...but to say that Scott Steiner, currently, is a better wrestler than Angle and/or Joe...is just...um...wow.
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Post by The Funniest Guy in Pants on May 13, 2008 22:50:21 GMT -5
I think it has more to do with the booking than Joe. I mean, he's in a feud with Scott Steiner. Why should anyone care? because scott steiner was one of the best , scott steiner is a great wrestler & legend. i don't watch tna for Samoa joe . i watch tna for scott steiner , kurt angle ,sting ,aj styles ,& jeff jarrett. you guys have no repsect for such a great as scott steiner. You're the only one. |
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Post by HHH316 on May 14, 2008 0:51:48 GMT -5
Blame the entire show being **** He might be Asian, but he's right  |
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Too Sweet
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Post by Too Sweet on May 14, 2008 0:57:43 GMT -5
I really think its too late for Joe to have a title reign, all of a sudden he gets beaten and looks weaker as it goes along and all of a sudden becomes champion, look at Joe like 2 years ago, badass unstopable force to be reckoned with had the undefeated streak and pretty much kicked the crap out of everyone, then Angle comes in and completely wrecks his Character.
And plus, you can't always please the hardcore fans you got to let the casuals enjoy it aswell, I reckon since Angle ( Who alot of Casuals know more than Joe ) isn't champion people are pretty much not watching it hence the low ratings, Joe cannot draw in my opinion because they've just held him back for so long.
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Post by jake_317 on May 14, 2008 1:26:57 GMT -5
Steiner never stopped being a draw? Is that why he did sh*t business in WWE and after failing to be an effective main eventer in WWE was stuck in a crappy feud and partnership with Test that was terrible for the remainder of his 2nd WWE run.
Stenier Brothers we're a great tag team, no doubt. But in terms of DRAWING POWER, liek you are talking about, LOD far exceeded anything the Steniers ever did in drawing money. So in your terms, wouldn't that make them the greatest team ever?
But wait...Road Warrior Animal doesn't draw crap and people don't care when he's on TV. Like I said, maybe legendary, but they are DATED and many, many years past their primes.
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Post by Too Sweet on May 14, 2008 1:30:30 GMT -5
Steiner never stopped being a draw? Is that why he did sh*t business in WWE and after failing to be an effective main eventer in WWE was stuck in a crappy feud and partnership with Test that was terrible for the remainder of his 2nd WWE run. Stenier Brothers we're a great tag team, no doubt. But in terms of DRAWING POWER, liek you are talking about, LOD far exceeded anything the Steniers ever did in drawing money. So in your terms, wouldn't that make them the greatest team ever? But wait...Road Warrior Animal doesn't draw crap and people don't care when he's on TV. Like I said, maybe legendary, but they are DATED and many, many years past their primes. Yeah I mean look at Stings effect on the ratings, didn't really help much. |
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Post by Adam on May 14, 2008 13:09:13 GMT -5
I'm not one to say that Angle necessarily ruined TNA, but he definitely ruined Joe.
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Post by RBW on May 15, 2008 7:05:30 GMT -5
They should book him as the killer that he was in RoH
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