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Post by therealjswo on Dec 3, 2007 18:49:09 GMT -5
See, it's reasons like this why I think JSWO is full of horse manure. He said Joe was unhappy, and will be leaving TNA once his contract is up. Why didn't he leave now if he was unhappy ? This is where I step in, point and laugh. You do realize that if someone is fired and has a contract they can't go and work anywhere with Pay Per View or TV right? They would have to wait until either their TNA deal is up or until a no-compete clause expires. With TNA deals a wrestler must wait 3 months just as they would with WWE to go on television elsewhere. That means he couldn't work for WWE or ROH for 3 months. On top of that, if Joe were to leave, on his own he'd have to buy out the remainder of his TNA deal, which if you didn't know has a little under a year left and a buyout fee. When you grow up, you'll understand legal contracts a little better. |
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Dec 3, 2007 19:05:06 GMT -5
hopefully that means he'll be back in ROH. Nope. No story for him and realistically Gabe and him probably don't ever want to work together again or at all for that matter. |
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Post by mitok00 on Dec 3, 2007 19:06:13 GMT -5
If you think about it shouldn't be all that surprising that only one wrestler accepted this offer. These wrestlers may love wrestling, but they also have to think about how to do business. This release offer could kill off any potential leverage with other wrestling organizations.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Dec 3, 2007 19:09:20 GMT -5
Well stated Mitok00. Low Ki has burned bridges everywhere now save for PWNoah where he really is the only place he stands to make big money.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 3, 2007 19:10:20 GMT -5
Surprise.......TNA blows it again. Letting Low Ki go is stupid. When he volunteered to leave.......they should have told him no. Good talent has to stay. They should have applied it to their washed up talent like The Steiners, Dudleys and Booker T.
Who knows what will happen with Ki? He has burned a lot of bridges and doesnt have the best of attitudes. I think saying he will NEVER go back to ROH is quite naive. In professional wrestling, you can NEVER say never. And I just did. But.....while it might be unlikely......its certainly possible. I think he has a better chance for ROH than he does for the E. Vince never has an interest in signing real talent.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Dec 3, 2007 19:26:03 GMT -5
Vince never has an interest in signing real talent. Which is why he signed CM Punk, Colt Cabana, Matt Sydal, and Ace Steel? Sucks for TNA, they lost a good talent and didn't fight to keep him. |
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Post by compton on Dec 3, 2007 20:37:42 GMT -5
He asked for more money and refused to put over Strong in a match. Oh yeah.. I completely forgot about that |
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Dec 4, 2007 6:47:37 GMT -5
As I said before:
If Joe was such a man he would have quit earlier. He didn't so he needs to just shut up now and take it.
I don't feel bad for Joe anymore, I got sick of my job and quit. No reason he can't do the same, I'm sure Japan + Indies together would pay well.
Oh well, continue to rot with all the other X-Division stars and still complain.
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Post by Essex James on Dec 4, 2007 8:29:24 GMT -5
Shame I like Senshi although i hope he comes to wwe for some reason i can see him doing wonders on ECW
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Dec 4, 2007 9:43:34 GMT -5
As I said before: If Joe was such a man he would have quit earlier. He didn't so he needs to just shut up now and take it. I don't feel bad for Joe anymore, I got sick of my job and quit. No reason he can't do the same, I'm sure Japan + Indies together would pay well. Oh well, continue to rot with all the other X-Division stars and still complain. Part of Samoa Joe's problem is that a couple of years ago when he first started with TNA from ROH and everyone thought he was hot stuff, he said a bunch of negative crap about WWE and its wrestlers (specifically Batista) in interviews. I don't think he burned any bridges per se (it takes a lot to completely burn a bridge with WWE), but Joe can't exactly make a smooth jump to WWE if he gets sick of TNA. There will be guys in the WWE locker room waiting to teach him "respect" like the crap that happened to CM Punk last year, a bunch of bookers ready to change his gimmick, and some WWE old-timers who will make him prove himself. So if there is any reason why Joe doesn't want to do ROH-Indies-Japan (and I don't know that there would be, but still), then he doesn't exactly have an option besides suffer in TNA or suffer upon entering WWE. Being outspoken is noble, but it's a small world. Even if you're in the right, your words can come back to haunt you. Ask Shane Douglas. |
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Post by CBT on Dec 4, 2007 11:22:59 GMT -5
Vince never has an interest in signing real talent. Which is why he signed CM Punk, Colt Cabana, Matt Sydal, and Ace Steel? Sucks for TNA, they lost a good talent and didn't fight to keep him. Uh, more like Ace... ...oh and any defense for MCMG, Joe, ect... is kind of a moot point, since those guys are getting TV time and being used. They're getting paid, it's a win for them... no where near the same anguist as some former radicals. I hope Senshi has some state-side plans, because I think he deserves success no matter where he goes. Glad I got a figure while I had a chance.  |
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Post by The 'Rated R Superstar' Edge on Dec 4, 2007 16:39:26 GMT -5
It's obvious who got all the breifcases now
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Post by mrchase on Dec 4, 2007 18:05:06 GMT -5
As I said before: If Joe was such a man he would have quit earlier. He didn't so he needs to just shut up now and take it. I don't feel bad for Joe anymore, I got sick of my job and quit. No reason he can't do the same, I'm sure Japan + Indies together would pay well. Oh well, continue to rot with all the other X-Division stars and still complain. Part of Samoa Joe's problem is that a couple of years ago when he first started with TNA from ROH and everyone thought he was hot stuff, he said a bunch of negative crap about WWE and its wrestlers (specifically Batista) in interviews. I don't think he burned any bridges per se (it takes a lot to completely burn a bridge with WWE), but Joe can't exactly make a smooth jump to WWE if he gets sick of TNA. There will be guys in the WWE locker room waiting to teach him "respect" like the crap that happened to CM Punk last year, a bunch of bookers ready to change his gimmick, and some WWE old-timers who will make him prove himself. So if there is any reason why Joe doesn't want to do ROH-Indies-Japan (and I don't know that there would be, but still), then he doesn't exactly have an option besides suffer in TNA or suffer upon entering WWE. Being outspoken is noble, but it's a small world. Even if you're in the right, your words can come back to haunt you. Ask Shane Douglas. see you are wrong about how joe will get treated in WWE . joe won't get treated the same as cm punk .joe wil get a big push automaticly when he gets to WWE because he is the best friend of the golden boy of wwe john cena . joe will end up being john cena's sidekick in WWE in the begin.so joe won't suffer upon entering WWE like you think because he has friends in high places in WWE & cm punk never did.also joe is the one who gave john cena the idea for the spinner title. |
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Post by compton on Dec 5, 2007 6:56:39 GMT -5
I just thought of something. Could Senshi quitting possibly be some sort of work? It's a little convenient that he was the only one who took Dixie up on her offer to leave and he was one of the "winners" for that pointless gimmick match. Does anyone else think this could be an angle?
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Dec 5, 2007 8:41:53 GMT -5
I just thought of something. Could Senshi quitting possibly be some sort of work? It's a little convenient that he was the only one who took Dixie up on her offer to leave and he was one of the "winners" for that pointless gimmick match. Does anyone else think this could be an angle? As Gorilla Monsoon would say, "Highly unlikely". |
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Post by compton on Dec 5, 2007 12:43:06 GMT -5
I just thought of something. Could Senshi quitting possibly be some sort of work? It's a little convenient that he was the only one who took Dixie up on her offer to leave and he was one of the "winners" for that pointless gimmick match. Does anyone else think this could be an angle? As Gorilla Monsoon would say, "Highly unlikely". Will you stop?!?!  |
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Post by hardyboyz123 on Dec 5, 2007 13:16:42 GMT -5
I'd like to see him back in the WWE...but of course they wouldnt utilize him. He was in WWE?? when was he there and what was his name there, cause I don't remember him  |
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Post by sincityhero on Dec 5, 2007 15:02:20 GMT -5
He did jobs. He wasnt a regular.
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Post by cccmrkennedy on Dec 5, 2007 15:15:54 GMT -5
See, it's reasons like this why I think JSWO is full of horse manure. He said Joe was unhappy, and will be leaving TNA once his contract is up. Why didn't he leave now if he was unhappy ? This is where I step in, point and laugh. You do realize that if someone is fired and has a contract they can't go and work anywhere with Pay Per View or TV right? They would have to wait until either their TNA deal is up or until a no-compete clause expires. With TNA deals a wrestler must wait 3 months just as they would with WWE to go on television elsewhere. That means he couldn't work for WWE or ROH for 3 months. On top of that, if Joe were to leave, on his own he'd have to buy out the remainder of his TNA deal, which if you didn't know has a little under a year left and a buyout fee. When you grow up, you'll understand legal contracts a little better.I'm sorry I don't read about legal jargen for a living. If he was as deperate to get out of his contract as you say he is, then he would just wait those three months. Why doesn't he do something else for those three months ? Do some acting, sing a song, dance a dance. |
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Post by reallypeevedoff on Dec 5, 2007 18:30:28 GMT -5
i'd hate to compare tna with wcw
but didnt wcw do the same thing while russo was there. ask if anyone wanted their release
and two weeks later the radicals came to the WWE
I blame Russo
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