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Post by Jord on May 18, 2008 6:05:38 GMT -5
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Post by B-Radimus Prime on May 18, 2008 12:34:23 GMT -5
Yeah, that is a pretty awesome promo.
Although, I don't like how it seems that so many people act like ALL the WWE Diva's are just fake barbies who don't know how to wrestle. I mean, sure, WWE does have some of the worst women you'll ever see in the squard circle. But they also have some of the best.
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Post by tnafan4life on May 18, 2008 13:09:37 GMT -5
Thank You! I've been looking for that. It's a great promo and it makes sense because it's true.
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Post by thematthardyjr on May 18, 2008 13:33:07 GMT -5
TBH I think the vid is hypocritical because werentalmost all the Knockouts in WWE or WWE devolopment at one point in time like Gail, Christy, ODB, Angel, etc. And some of WWE's Divas were in TNA at one point also, like Mickie and Beth.
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Post by tnafan4life on May 18, 2008 13:54:27 GMT -5
ODB was in OVW on her own and wasn't under a WWE deal. How is it hypocritcal? Angel Williamwas never a "diva" nor was ODB as they never made it to TV as a wrestler. Christy and Gail are the only two women wrestlers in TNA now that was on main TV as wrestlers. Plus, It's talking about here and now. The Knockouts division wasn't around when they was in WWE. Now, it is. They're basically saying that the Knockouts division is about what happens in the ring without using pillow fights to end feud. The promo is really saying "WWE Divas suck" it's more so saying. They (WWE) draws "the line" with their divas with pillowfights, bra & pantie matches, etc while TNA crosses that line with their matches. If that makes sense. So, I don't see how it's hypocritical just because omgz they worked there. Just my opinion.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on May 18, 2008 14:00:19 GMT -5
It's pathetic - they need to focus on their own product, instead of worrying what the WWE is doing.. It's also worth remembering, that Gail Kim, Christy, Talia Madison, Angel Williams, ODB, Jacqueline and Shelly Martinez are all in TNA, BECAUSE THE WWE DIDN'T WANT THEM.. Not to mention the fact, that the Divas are making more money - and getting more worldwide recognition, than the Knockouts, will ever have..
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Post by tnafan4life on May 18, 2008 14:13:39 GMT -5
Why don't you get your facts straight BEFORE you talk about something.
- ODB worked TNA 2003/2004 BEFORE she went to OVW (on her own) in which she was never under a WWE Devlopmental contract.
- Angel Williams never was on main WWE TV so if you ask me she was never a "WWE Diva" she was just a "WWE Devlopment Star" and that's it.
- Talia was never under a WWE contract. She was just used as extras.
Don't blame TNA for picking up good talent WWE didn't want in Gail Kim and Jackie. Hemme/Salinas need to go anyways. They aren't worrying about WWE they just did a video package mentioning how they HAVE used bra and pantie, pillow fights etc for matches for feuds and saying that's not what the Knockouts are about.
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Post by [x] TEXACIDE [x] on May 18, 2008 17:58:52 GMT -5
I liked it, it's true. I love the knockout division.
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Post by perilloboy123 on May 18, 2008 18:03:19 GMT -5
I've never seen that promo before. It was pretty cool. Thanks for posting.
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Post by James St. James on May 18, 2008 18:19:34 GMT -5
It's pathetic - they need to focus on their own product, instead of worrying what the WWE is doing.. It's also worth remembering, that Gail Kim, Christy, Talia Madison, Angel Williams, ODB, Jacqueline and Shelly Martinez are all in TNA, BECAUSE THE WWE DIDN'T WANT THEM.. Not to mention the fact, that the Divas are making more money - and getting more worldwide recognition, than the Knockouts, will ever have.. And really, isn't that what its all about? What's the respect of your fans, colleagues and critics when you have money and name recognition? Ashley may be well known in mainstream media, but she is known as that one trashy looking former escort who can't wrestle to save her life (and does anyone want to be known for that?) I see this as more of an attack on WWE's booking, and not necassarily the divas themselves. ODB and Beth Phoenix are very good friends in real life, and I find it hard to believe she would attack a group of people her friend is a part of. On the other hand, isn't one of Christy Hemme's greatest accomplishments in wrestling being undefeated in lingirie pillow fights?
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Post by hammerzeit on May 18, 2008 22:59:04 GMT -5
It's all irrelevent anyways, other then Awesome Kong and maybe Gail Kim, TNA's women are every bit as untalanted as WWE's. At least WWE has some better looking women.
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Post by tnafan4life on May 18, 2008 23:12:26 GMT -5
Did you SERIOUSLY just say ODB, Jackie, Madision, Williams are "every bit as untalented as WWE's"?
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Post by hammerzeit on May 18, 2008 23:31:17 GMT -5
Did you SERIOUSLY just say ODB, Jackie, Madision, Williams are "every bit as untalented as WWE's"? Talia Madison is horrible, she is barely a wrestler and can't work at all. I've seen her wrestle on the Northeast Indy scene almost since she's started, and she's never really improved as a wrestler. She never really even seemed interested in wrestling anyways, she always seemed to want to use is as a springboard for a modeling career. I've never seen ODB impress me, she's just a heavy set with with massive fake knockers. Jaquiline has sucked ever since she used to stink up the ring with Sable in WWE
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Post by Iron Man on May 18, 2008 23:55:34 GMT -5
Did you SERIOUSLY just say ODB, Jackie, Madision, Williams are "every bit as untalented as WWE's"? Wow....
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Post by Mark on May 18, 2008 23:58:27 GMT -5
A lot of women were never really good. Jackie seemed to have good matches here and there which paired and we all know sable was shit.
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Post by tnafan4life on May 19, 2008 0:35:38 GMT -5
Did you SERIOUSLY just say ODB, Jackie, Madision, Williams are "every bit as untalented as WWE's"? Wow.... What? Are you pointing out that I spelt Madison wrong? Yeah, I know I spelt it wrong. Or are you pointing out that I said Madison was talented?
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on May 19, 2008 0:39:47 GMT -5
What? Are you pointing out that I spelt Madison wrong? Yeah, I know I spelt it wrong. Or are you pointing out that I said Madison was talented? Probably the latter - because she's awful..
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Post by tnafan4life on May 19, 2008 0:41:43 GMT -5
What? Are you pointing out that I spelt Madison wrong? Yeah, I know I spelt it wrong. Or are you pointing out that I said Madison was talented? Probably the latter - because she's awful.. I never said she was the greatest. But, she's better than some girls in WWE (remember - "every bit as untalented as WWE's"). I'm just saying she's better than some of WWE's (Cherry, Maria, Kelly etc).
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Post by James St. James on May 19, 2008 1:01:29 GMT -5
WWE
Mickie James Beth Phoenix Maria Candice Michelle Ashley Jillian Hall Victoria Layla Kelly Kelly Eve Maryse Cherry Natalia Melina Michelle McCool
TNA
Awesome Kong Gail Kim ODB Angelina Love Velvet Sky Roxxi Leveaux Salinas Christy Hemme Rhaka Khan Jacqueline Traci Brooks Karen Angle
The amount of fluff on WWE's roster in comparison to TNAs is undeniable. I also feel that TNA is using top talent females in the correct way, and letting the best in ring workers have the spotlight. Sure, Velvet Sky is only about as good as Candice Michelle in the ring, but she isn't anywhere near the title. She is predominantly featured, but she is letting the much more talented Angelina Love carry most of the wrestling parts of it.
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Post by Flyrfn144 on May 19, 2008 13:06:19 GMT -5
It's pathetic - they need to focus on their own product, instead of worrying what the WWE is doing.. It's also worth remembering, that Gail Kim, Christy, Talia Madison, Angel Williams, ODB, Jacqueline and Shelly Martinez are all in TNA, BECAUSE THE WWE DIDN'T WANT THEM.. Not to mention the fact, that the Divas are making more money - and getting more worldwide recognition, than the Knockouts, will ever have.. It's not like they used them/would have used them right anyway. The only one remotely used right was Gail Kim, and what, she was with the WWE a year? Jackie was used right a few times. And why does money matter? At least they are doing what they are in the business to do. Until recently, WWE hasn't done anything with their women's division, and honestly, if you look at it, didn't really do anything with their women until TNA started with theirs
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