Post by WalterF on May 18, 2008 23:24:55 GMT -5
The whole feud seems just sort of off to me.
I feel like they're really running low on ideas for this whole thing.
To be upfront, the world title scene on SD! for the last nearly two years has been Batista/Taker/Edge with some Khali thrown in for some filler space. We've seen Undertaker v.s. Batista about a zillion times as well as Batista v.s. Edge a zillion times.
Now we have just seen Undertaker cleanly defeat Edge two straight PPV's in a row and now they're coming up with these out there ideas to keep the Taker v.s. Edge thing going, but doesn't it seem like they're just trying really hard to buy time?
The feud has had no real dynamic. It's pretty much been Edge gets some cheap shots on SD!, but when it comes to the match, Taker just wins. Then we just have Vickie constantly stripping Undertaker of the title, but in theory it doesn't even make sense, because the way they build the wrestlers characters, it is a GIVE IN that whenever Taker and Edge go one-on-one Taker is going to win, barring some whacko Vicki Guerrero decision.
To me, to make it even a little more stale, there is really no true feud or anything interesting going on from a personal standpoint between Edge and Undertaker. I feel like its basically Vicki Guerrero screwing Undertaker and Edge has become almost a non-entity in the matter, taking second seat to Vicki's decisions, etc.
To me, what also makes it a little stale is that Undertaker's reactions to everything is almost that of apathy or not caring. He basically just does his matches, and if he gets f*cked over, he basically doesn't really do anything about except continue to go along with whatever and keep doing his matches.
I understand this is the whole classic "authority" v.s. lone wrestler angle. it was mostly popularized with Austin v.s. McMahon where McMahon would keep screwing over Austin time after time, but the dynamic that made that whole angle so entertaining where the antics between austin and McMahon. Austin would all this insane stuff to get "revenge" and do all of these creative ways of completely making Vince's life miserable so it was more "shot for shot" and less one sided. Sure, Austin got screwed alot, but he did so much outlandish sh*t to get revenge that it kind of evened out.
The main problem I see with Vicki/Edge v.s. Taker is the apathetic nature of the Undertaker. He doesn't really talk and he doesn't do anything to get back or extract some satisfying revenge (for the fans even) to Vicki/Edge. He just does his matches, plays by the rules and takes whatever happens to him.
At least if he stole the belt and refused to give it back or did some crazy ass attack and put Vicki and Edge in the hospital and tried to kill them or something backstage or in a parking lot, even though Taker would be stripped of the belt the fans would, in a way be able to "get off" because Undertaker would be doing insane sh*t to them to keep the flow more even.
I've been long winded about this, but anyone see where I'm coming from? BTW, i think the actual matches are pretty awesome, but the angle is weird to me.
I feel like they're really running low on ideas for this whole thing.
To be upfront, the world title scene on SD! for the last nearly two years has been Batista/Taker/Edge with some Khali thrown in for some filler space. We've seen Undertaker v.s. Batista about a zillion times as well as Batista v.s. Edge a zillion times.
Now we have just seen Undertaker cleanly defeat Edge two straight PPV's in a row and now they're coming up with these out there ideas to keep the Taker v.s. Edge thing going, but doesn't it seem like they're just trying really hard to buy time?
The feud has had no real dynamic. It's pretty much been Edge gets some cheap shots on SD!, but when it comes to the match, Taker just wins. Then we just have Vickie constantly stripping Undertaker of the title, but in theory it doesn't even make sense, because the way they build the wrestlers characters, it is a GIVE IN that whenever Taker and Edge go one-on-one Taker is going to win, barring some whacko Vicki Guerrero decision.
To me, to make it even a little more stale, there is really no true feud or anything interesting going on from a personal standpoint between Edge and Undertaker. I feel like its basically Vicki Guerrero screwing Undertaker and Edge has become almost a non-entity in the matter, taking second seat to Vicki's decisions, etc.
To me, what also makes it a little stale is that Undertaker's reactions to everything is almost that of apathy or not caring. He basically just does his matches, and if he gets f*cked over, he basically doesn't really do anything about except continue to go along with whatever and keep doing his matches.
I understand this is the whole classic "authority" v.s. lone wrestler angle. it was mostly popularized with Austin v.s. McMahon where McMahon would keep screwing over Austin time after time, but the dynamic that made that whole angle so entertaining where the antics between austin and McMahon. Austin would all this insane stuff to get "revenge" and do all of these creative ways of completely making Vince's life miserable so it was more "shot for shot" and less one sided. Sure, Austin got screwed alot, but he did so much outlandish sh*t to get revenge that it kind of evened out.
The main problem I see with Vicki/Edge v.s. Taker is the apathetic nature of the Undertaker. He doesn't really talk and he doesn't do anything to get back or extract some satisfying revenge (for the fans even) to Vicki/Edge. He just does his matches, plays by the rules and takes whatever happens to him.
At least if he stole the belt and refused to give it back or did some crazy ass attack and put Vicki and Edge in the hospital and tried to kill them or something backstage or in a parking lot, even though Taker would be stripped of the belt the fans would, in a way be able to "get off" because Undertaker would be doing insane sh*t to them to keep the flow more even.
I've been long winded about this, but anyone see where I'm coming from? BTW, i think the actual matches are pretty awesome, but the angle is weird to me.
