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Post by Flyrfn144 on May 19, 2008 19:18:36 GMT -5
Ok, before I get attacked, hear me out. Ever since MCMG became a tag team, they haven't really done anything. Yes they are a tremendous tag team, but I feel Sabin is getting drug down in this situation. For example, Shelley basically sees himself as the leader of the group. He opened his mouth about not blading and probably cost MCMG a shot at the tag team titles, or coming damn near close to it. Case in point, look at Sabin before MCMG started. He had just come off a decent run as X-Division champion, and was putting on great matches. Now don't get me wrong, I love MCMG, but I just feel Sabin could be back to where he used to be and higher, more like Kaz level if he wasn't in a tag team. I love Shelley, but I feel he runs his mouth way too much and I just feel he may be holding Sabin back a little bit. Your opinion?
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Post by tnafan4life on May 19, 2008 19:21:16 GMT -5
I agree. I feel Sabin is the "I'll do whatever you want me to do" type guy while Shelley is the "I'll do ever I want to do" which brings Sabin down with him so I think they do.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2008 19:30:26 GMT -5
I've always liked Sabin alot more than Shelley, honestly, but, if they did break up, where would that leave Shelley?? Now I see Sabin being what he was if not bigger, but what does that do for Shelley?
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Post by MX5 on May 19, 2008 19:36:51 GMT -5
yes, I love both of them, but I have always thought that Sabin is a better singles wrestler. My like for Sabin has went down since becoming basically a full tag wrestler.
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Post by mattoriginal on May 19, 2008 23:06:20 GMT -5
I've always liked Sabin alot more than Shelley, honestly, but, if they did break up, where would that leave Shelley?? Now I see Sabin being what he was if not bigger, but what does that do for Shelley? Maybe Shelley and Nash could reunite...ok that's just false hopes. Maybe with the Angle Alliance dissolving(or looks to be), Angle could try to replace Tomko and Styles with Shelley and ?? ?, putting Shelley in the wacky AJ Styles role, seeing is how it would completely kill his character, letting AJ go back into the 2005/2006 Serious character. |
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Post by James Hetfield on May 19, 2008 23:13:28 GMT -5
They're a great team, so I'd say NO.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on May 19, 2008 23:27:25 GMT -5
No, it's not their fault TNA is ran by retards. They were a very successful team prior to TNA and Shelley did a smart thing. TNA wanted it for one small TV angle that could've done without it.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on May 19, 2008 23:30:13 GMT -5
No, keep them as a tag team right now.
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Post by tnafan4life on May 19, 2008 23:56:42 GMT -5
No, it's not their fault TNA is ran by retards. They were a very successful team prior to TNA and Shelley did a smart thing. TNA wanted it for one small TV angle that could've done without it. It's more than the blade job which has been established many times. Shelley is outspoken on creative decisions - some that aren't even about him. |
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Post by Wato Stan Account on May 20, 2008 0:25:29 GMT -5
No, it's not their fault TNA is ran by retards. They were a very successful team prior to TNA and Shelley did a smart thing. TNA wanted it for one small TV angle that could've done without it. It's more than the blade job which has been established many times. Shelley is outspoken on creative decisions - some that aren't even about him. I'm not gonna lie, he probably did so because things like Super Eric and Stone Cold Shark Boy were brought up. TNA has such awful ideas I'd hate to see what's turned down. Actually no, I'd love to see what's turned down, because it's probably a product worth a damn. |
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Post by Spevo™ on May 20, 2008 0:58:51 GMT -5
Ok, before I get attacked, hear me out. Ever since MCMG became a tag team, they haven't really done anything. Yes they are a tremendous tag team, but I feel Sabin is getting drug down in this situation. For example, Shelley basically sees himself as the leader of the group. He opened his mouth about not blading and probably cost MCMG a shot at the tag team titles, or coming damn near close to it. Case in point, look at Sabin before MCMG started. He had just come off a decent run as X-Division champion, and was putting on great matches. Now don't get me wrong, I love MCMG, but I just feel Sabin could be back to where he used to be and higher, more like Kaz level if he wasn't in a tag team. I love Shelley, but I feel he runs his mouth way too much and I just feel he may be holding Sabin back a little bit. Your opinion? Stop whining that Shelley is bringing the guns down, that couldnt be further from the truth. so he refused to blade, and he complains about tna's shitty creative decisions. GOOD FOR HIM! HES STANDING UP FOR HIMSELF EVEN IF IT IS HOLDING THEM BACK. the mcmg are the best up and coming tag team to date and dont just look at them in tna, look at them in japan, roh, and anywhere else. The two are amazingly talented in the ring as a team and with the current state of the x division both of them would be nothing if they where to split. TNA has no idea what they are passing up, the guns could be an amazing face tag team to hold the belts. I honestly think the bes move tna could do right now is have a fued between the guns and lax that could play out for a while with the belts going back and forth but then again this is tna we are talking about... |
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Post by Master Lewpac on May 20, 2008 1:14:44 GMT -5
Hes his own man. If he didnt agree with Shelley, hed say something.
I think they should remain together, for one huge reason, and I say this no matter if I like the team or not.. When a tag team breaks up for no reason, and just starts feuding, its intellectually- disabled. Thats one less tag team to be featured in an already small tag division.
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Post by AP on May 20, 2008 2:14:05 GMT -5
I think they should stop doing a million kick combos in an 8 minute match and sell a little.
I love Sabin, I enjoy Shelley, but as a team IN TNA (note the caps) I dont really care for them.
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Post by Heresy on May 20, 2008 8:19:38 GMT -5
If they went to ROH, I'd say keep them together for a while and have Alex Shelley break out as the next ace in ROH.
But since they're staying in TNA, I'd rather they break up immediately... doesn't even have to be made into a grudge storyline. TNA's tag division is embarrasing and it's not worth keeping them paired beyond a feud with LAX. Once you've seen one MCMG match in TNA you've seen them all anyway. Both guys should start being pushed up the ranks as single guys... both should revert to their prior gimmicks... a heel Sabin with the "Hail Sabin" gimmick and a face Shelley with the "PB and Shelley" gimmick.
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Post by Flyrfn144 on May 20, 2008 10:33:42 GMT -5
Ok, before I get attacked, hear me out. Ever since MCMG became a tag team, they haven't really done anything. Yes they are a tremendous tag team, but I feel Sabin is getting drug down in this situation. For example, Shelley basically sees himself as the leader of the group. He opened his mouth about not blading and probably cost MCMG a shot at the tag team titles, or coming damn near close to it. Case in point, look at Sabin before MCMG started. He had just come off a decent run as X-Division champion, and was putting on great matches. Now don't get me wrong, I love MCMG, but I just feel Sabin could be back to where he used to be and higher, more like Kaz level if he wasn't in a tag team. I love Shelley, but I feel he runs his mouth way too much and I just feel he may be holding Sabin back a little bit. Your opinion? Stop whining that Shelley is bringing the guns down, that couldnt be further from the truth. so he refused to blade, and he complains about tna's ****ty creative decisions. GOOD FOR HIM! HES STANDING UP FOR HIMSELF EVEN IF IT IS HOLDING THEM BACK. the mcmg are the best up and coming tag team to date and dont just look at them in tna, look at them in japan, roh, and anywhere else. The two are amazingly talented in the ring as a team and with the current state of the x division both of them would be nothing if they where to split. TNA has no idea what they are passing up, the guns could be an amazing face tag team to hold the belts. I honestly think the bes move tna could do right now is have a fued between the guns and lax that could play out for a while with the belts going back and forth but then again this is tna we are talking about... Now see, we're talking in TNA, we aren't talking in Japan, or in ROH, we are talking in TNA, you know, the company they currently work for? Who cares what they did in Japan, they are in TNA now. I don't tune into Japanese wrestling every week and see MCMG. I understand they are amazingly talented together, hence why I said I think they are a great tag team. The current state of the X-Division, they would be nobody? Look at the current tag division, you have about three established tag teams, and MCMG is looked at as the least of the teams. And this little feud you talk about with the Guns and LAX, would be great, no doubt, but like I said, if Shelley wants to run his mouth, it'll never happen. So what, he is gonna stand up for himself, go ahead, I applaud that. But he isn't really in a position to do that right now, and really should just kind of roll with the punches. Guys don't get to the big time by arguing with everything they are told to do. Hell, if Shelley ever wants to make it to WWE, he better learn to keep his mouth shut, cause Vince will ask him to do half the craphe is asked now. Shelley isn't a point in his career, where he should be complaining over a small lading job, which could have resulted in much bigger things for the Guns. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2008 17:32:17 GMT -5
I agree. Shelley is holding Sabin back. I truely belive Sabin would be a better singals competitor.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2008 18:03:41 GMT -5
Keep them together, if not... completely get rid of the tag team division in TNA and get rid of the tag straps.
It's bad enough we're probably going to see another LAX vs. Team 3D fued, since theres no other legit tag teams worth a damn in TNA anymore (not saying Team 3D is). The tag division is a damn joke. MCMG and LAX are the only thing interesting in TNA, when it comes to tag team competition and it's not often you see those 2 teams fued... which is a shame.
Sabin and Shelley should EVENTUALLY "break up" and continue some singles action, but for the time being... theres enough mid-carders and X-Divison stars. No need for another 2 to be added and get lost in the group.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on May 20, 2008 22:13:35 GMT -5
Keep them together, if not... completely get rid of the tag team division in TNA and get rid of the tag straps. It's bad enough we're probably going to see another LAX vs. Team 3D fued, since theres no other legit tag teams worth a damn in TNA anymore (not saying Team 3D is). The tag division is a damn joke. MCMG and LAX are the only thing interesting in TNA, when it comes to tag team competition and it's not often you see those 2 teams fued... which is a shame. Sabin and Shelley should EVENTUALLY "break up" and continue some singles action, but for the time being... theres enough mid-carders and X-Divison stars. No need for another 2 to be added and get lost in the group. - Triple S And yet, it's still miles ahead of either of WWE's tag divisions. |
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Post by CBT on May 21, 2008 0:07:14 GMT -5
In a perfect world, both would be the next in line to hold the Tag Team titles.
At some point Sabin would capture the X-Division title while they are holding the Tag belts, maybe Sabin would win the belt without build.
Shelley would pull a massive turn, that creates a feud over the belt and jealousy, resulting in Shelley winning the X-Division title in Rocker Shawn Michaels-style.
It's get two long awaited titles around Shelley's magnificent waist, and also put both men in a valuable role as individuals.
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Post by The Funniest Guy in Pants on May 21, 2008 1:21:16 GMT -5
Ok, before I get attacked, hear me out. Ever since MCMG became a tag team, they haven't really done anything. Yes they are a tremendous tag team, but I feel Sabin is getting drug down in this situation. For example, Shelley basically sees himself as the leader of the group. He opened his mouth about not blading and probably cost MCMG a shot at the tag team titles, or coming damn near close to it. Case in point, look at Sabin before MCMG started. He had just come off a decent run as X-Division champion, and was putting on great matches. Now don't get me wrong, I love MCMG, but I just feel Sabin could be back to where he used to be and higher, more like Kaz level if he wasn't in a tag team. I love Shelley, but I feel he runs his mouth way too much and I just feel he may be holding Sabin back a little bit. Your opinion? Stop whining that Shelley is bringing the guns down, that couldnt be further from the truth. so he refused to blade, and he complains about tna's ****ty creative decisions. GOOD FOR HIM! HES STANDING UP FOR HIMSELF EVEN IF IT IS HOLDING THEM BACK. the mcmg are the best up and coming tag team to date and dont just look at them in tna, look at them in japan, roh, and anywhere else. The two are amazingly talented in the ring as a team and with the current state of the x division both of them would be nothing if they where to split. TNA has no idea what they are passing up, the guns could be an amazing face tag team to hold the belts. I honestly think the bes move tna could do right now is have a fued between the guns and lax that could play out for a while with the belts going back and forth but then again this is tna we are talking about... Have you not had a job before? You don't say bad things about the company you are working for. Because if you do.... well, you end up like MCMG. |
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