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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Jun 6, 2008 0:25:01 GMT -5
As I have said since the begining with Tito he is only trying to get fighters their fair share. Will he get his (of course) but in the end it will better it for everyone.
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Post by jorge4903 on Jun 6, 2008 13:48:10 GMT -5
It's very simple. UFC fans love to hate Ortiz, which is part of his appeal and why he sells ppv's. Getting his ass kicked or not, the guy entertains like no other fighter and he equals=buyrates. Just look at all the attention he gets just within these forums. I rest my case.
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Post by DWright on Jun 6, 2008 14:42:56 GMT -5
It's very simple. UFC fans love to hate Ortiz, which is part of his appeal and why he sells ppv's. Getting his ass kicked or not, the guy entertains like no other fighter and he equals=buyrates. Just look at all the attention he gets just within these forums. I rest my case. There's MANY more entertaining fighters than Ortiz. Ortiz is hated because many feel his heart isn't in fighting. He'd rather be with his slag, or do TV/Movie spots. I think a lot of people tune in to Tito to see what he'll say next, rather than who he'll fight next. |
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Post by jorge4903 on Jun 6, 2008 19:10:26 GMT -5
Who exactly is more entertaining???, and wanting to do outside projects is nothing new for athletes. The Rock went out and did movies/tv shows while he was still wrestling, and I could have sworn I saw Forrest Griffin on one of those detective shows not too long ago.
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Post by DWright on Jun 6, 2008 19:42:06 GMT -5
Who exactly is more entertaining???, and wanting to do outside projects is nothing new for athletes. The Rock went out and did movies/tv shows while he was still wrestling, and I could have sworn I saw Forrest Griffin on one of those detective shows not too long ago. Who's more entertaining than Tito? Really? Faber Rampage Liddell Torres Fedor Cung Le GSP Penn Gomi Shields Yamamoto Anderson Silva Wandy Melendez Gomi Rua Henderson Fitch Condit JZ Huerta Soko Mayhem Marcus Davis Swick Forrest Griffin Sakurabu Inoue Tamura Noons Diaz Daley Manhoef Thiago Silva ...do I seriously need to continue? Ortiz hasn't been exciting in years. The only time I'm interested in him, as to see what he'll say next. And this isn't wrestling. This is MMA. Tito takes months and months and months off, and then wants a bigger pay out for himself, even though he hasn't beat anyone (or finished) in years. It's ridiculous. I don't care about someone doing TV spots and movies, as long as they are still taking their fighting serious. Tito's just full of ****. |
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 7, 2008 11:40:18 GMT -5
If you're talking about fighting as your entertainment, then yeah, Ortiz really isn't one of the more entertaining fighters...
But he does have probably the best entrances, pre-fight interviews, and trash-talking abilities of any fighter out there.
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Post by Sandy on Jun 7, 2008 14:59:24 GMT -5
^^^
Yup. I love how the UFC even took his entrance music away in his last fight. (Eminem-Mosh)
and for his fight with Rashad Evans he couldn't even take the American Flag/Mexican Flag into the Octagon like he always does.
The UFC knew what his strengths were. So they tried to eliminate those as much as possible. They know Tito loves to trash talk so they give him Lyoto...whom no matter how much trash talking you do he would most likely ignore it as he doesn't seem to be a real tempermental guy. So Tito couldn't get into his head.
I am just rambling though....
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Post by Codesters on Jun 7, 2008 15:05:22 GMT -5
It's very simple. UFC fans love to hate Ortiz, which is part of his appeal and why he sells ppv's. Getting his ass kicked or not, the guy entertains like no other fighter and he equals=buyrates. Just look at all the attention he gets just within these forums. I rest my case. There's MANY more entertaining fighters than Ortiz. Ortiz is hated because many feel his heart isn't in fighting. He'd rather be with his slag, or do TV/Movie spots. I think a lot of people tune in to Tito to see what he'll say next, rather than who he'll fight next. Exactly. The last time I think Tito's heart was in a fight was when he fought Vitor Belfort. He's more interested in doing shitty movies with that herpes sack Jenna Jameson. |
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Post by ajstyles888 on Jun 7, 2008 15:47:59 GMT -5
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Post by shogun on Jun 8, 2008 15:14:50 GMT -5
You can't just start a rumour that Chuck Liddell is on Cocaine. Seriously, that's dumb.
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 8, 2008 15:25:38 GMT -5
You can't just start a rumour that Chuck Liddell is on Cocaine. Seriously, that's dumb. I'm not "starting" that rumor. Seriously, look around the internet. |
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Post by DWright on Jun 8, 2008 15:33:31 GMT -5
You can't just start a rumour that Chuck Liddell is on Cocaine. Seriously, that's dumb. I'm not "starting" that rumor. Seriously, look around the internet. Yeah that rumor started the day he showed up for that interview high out of his mind. Then the cover came that he was "woke up too early after taking sleeping pills," and "He was sick, cold medicine made him like that." 2 different excuses and covers for the fact he was knee deep in blow. |
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Post by shogun on Jun 8, 2008 16:43:07 GMT -5
That stuff would show up on his urine tests, man. I doubt he'd do that stuff. Look at the way they hung Nick Diaz out to dry for smoking marijuana.
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Post by DWright on Jun 8, 2008 16:44:28 GMT -5
That stuff would show up on his urine tests, man. I doubt he'd do that stuff. Look at the way they hung Nick Diaz out to dry for smoking marijuana. That's why Dana and Chuck are such good pals. Dana takes his piss test for him.  |
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 9, 2008 10:06:15 GMT -5
That stuff would show up on his urine tests, man. I doubt he'd do that stuff. Look at the way they hung Nick Diaz out to dry for smoking marijuana. Marijuana could be in Nick Diaz's system for 2 weeks or possibly even longer. Yes, we've all heard those stories about people passing drug tests after smoking just days before the test and taking a "cleaner," but these drug tests are a bit different than the old workplace drug tests that they give. Cocaine generally stays in your system for 2-4 days, for a normal adult. For someone like Chuck Liddell, who is working out every single day; it could stay in his system for even less than that. Being that Liddell fights just a few times per year, and is only drug tested around the time of those fights; how is it at all hard to believe that he could have passed a drug test? |
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Post by shogun on Jun 9, 2008 14:42:31 GMT -5
It's not impossible, no. It just seems wrong to spread that stuff with no hard evidence at all.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Jun 9, 2008 18:11:08 GMT -5
It's not impossible, no. It just seems wrong to spread that stuff with no hard evidence at all. I was down in SLO for about 2 months last year. And met him alot down there I know 2 things about Chuck. 1. He goes to the same bar every morning get's a ginger ale and a few bears. And has 2 security guards with him. By morning I mean about 10 am. 2. At night time he goes to alot of clubs. And the scene he is with DO cocaine. And other drugs. I am not saying he does them at all. Because I never saw him do them. But all the people around him do. |
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