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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jun 21, 2008 0:43:37 GMT -5
K5, Blade and Undisputed Kid need to all get in a circle and suck each others dicks. I cannot count how many fights I have seen by these guys over the SAME SUBJECT. I know all 3 of you will say something like "I don't start it", but each of you keep the **** stirring. Get in a chat room and argue over whats better: JAPW or ROH. I'd say for you to get down on your knees and suck someones dick but you wouldn't have to. You could do it standing up. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Jun 21, 2008 0:44:27 GMT -5
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jun 21, 2008 0:55:51 GMT -5
I have seen you in person before you were probably about 17 and weren't even 5 foot tall. |
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Post by therealjswo on Jun 21, 2008 17:23:28 GMT -5
JSWO with a JAPW shot, how original. Laughing stock of indy wrestling? Tell Homicide that. He'll slap the ROH out of you. It's very common for you to get upset when someone speaks the truth about ROH when it's negative. Let's see off the top of my head when ROH lied to their fans. 1. General Admission Seating. Way to go ROH! 2. Claiming huge success on PPV when we all know the regular fans are the only buyers and that it has been confirmed ticket and DVD sales haven't changed for the better. 3. Refuses to admit they've pulled talent from other shows and claiming they sold out venues when tons of seats are empty. I've already told Homicide that and he pretty much agreed. He said it's close to home, a solid pay day, and he started there, so he keeps at it. He knows I think the product sucks right now. Hell the guy has said he often works half speed there because the fans don't know the difference. When you sell more tickets then your venue is prepared for that means people must stand. If you're in decent enough shape that's not a big deal. I don't see where they've ever claimed huge success on PPV. Everyone knows it didn't add sales like originally planned. ROH however is on PPV and did get a nice check from G-Funk out of the deal. I don't know about pulling talent, but I do know talent are contracted and by signing a deal you must follow the terms of it. They sold out the Manhattan Center for a streak that ended in December. Please oh please don't tell me they've claimed to sell out the shit-hole in Jersey they run. JSWO's obession with JAPW is a very weird one. A very unhealthy one too. JAPW is the laughing stock of indy wrestling to who? Yourself? Last time I checked they were one of the most well respected indy out there that was the first to recognize and make a name out talent such as Homicide, Low Ki, the Briscoes, Kenny Omega, Jay Lethal, Da Hit Sqaud, Teddy Hart, Jack Evans, Dixie, Insane Dragon, SAT, Red(when he was good), El Generico, Kevin Steen, Trent Acid(when he was one of the best on the indys), Xavier and plenty of others. Today's JAPW is a laughing stock or more specifically TNA-Lite. Prior to 2006, JAPW was an incredible company, just as good, if not better then ROH at its peak. I've never been a big JAPW fan. But they are putting together a much better product than ROH is these days. ROH is being raped of their talent by the E and TNA. They survived this before by replenishing with new stars. ROH isnt or is unable to do so at this point. Their biggest star, they treat like some cheap suit......talkn about Chris Hero. You really need to take off the CHIKARA colored glasses dude. Hero's being booked in a serious manner now that his comedy days are over. Just because he's your favorite or one of your favorites, doesn't mean he has to be pushed at an HHH level. Is he having good to great matches? Yup, that's all that needs to be said. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 21, 2008 17:41:40 GMT -5
JSWO with a JAPW shot, how original. Laughing stock of indy wrestling? Tell Homicide that. He'll slap the ROH out of you. It's very common for you to get upset when someone speaks the truth about ROH when it's negative. Let's see off the top of my head when ROH lied to their fans. 1. General Admission Seating. Way to go ROH! 2. Claiming huge success on PPV when we all know the regular fans are the only buyers and that it has been confirmed ticket and DVD sales haven't changed for the better. 3. Refuses to admit they've pulled talent from other shows and claiming they sold out venues when tons of seats are empty. I've already told Homicide that and he pretty much agreed. He said it's close to home, a solid pay day, and he started there, so he keeps at it. He knows I think the product sucks right now. Hell the guy has said he often works half speed there because the fans don't know the difference. When you sell more tickets then your venue is prepared for that means people must stand. If you're in decent enough shape that's not a big deal. I don't see where they've ever claimed huge success on PPV. Everyone knows it didn't add sales like originally planned. ROH however is on PPV and did get a nice check from G-Funk out of the deal. I don't know about pulling talent, but I do know talent are contracted and by signing a deal you must follow the terms of it. They sold out the Manhattan Center for a streak that ended in December. Please oh please don't tell me they've claimed to sell out the ****-hole in Jersey they run. Today's JAPW is a laughing stock or more specifically TNA-Lite. Prior to 2006, JAPW was an incredible company, just as good, if not better then ROH at its peak. I've never been a big JAPW fan. But they are putting together a much better product than ROH is these days. ROH is being raped of their talent by the E and TNA. They survived this before by replenishing with new stars. ROH isnt or is unable to do so at this point. Their biggest star, they treat like some cheap suit......talkn about Chris Hero. You really need to take off the CHIKARA colored glasses dude. Hero's being booked in a serious manner now that his comedy days are over. Just because he's your favorite or one of your favorites, doesn't mean he has to be pushed at an HHH level. Is he having good to great matches? Yup, that's all that needs to be said. HHH level? Hmmm.....isnt that how Danielson is booked or just a shade under? I'm not asking for the guy to be invincible. I'm asking for him not to be jobbed and left to the undercard. I'm tired of Brian Danielson in the main event scene. I'm tired of Aries there too. I'll take Nigel, Claudio, Hero....anyday. Ironic you say I should take off my Chikara colored glasses. Especially considering this is coming from MISTER RING OF HONOR! At least I can admit Chikara's faults. In your eyes, ROH can do NO WRONG! Side Note: Unmaskig Jigsaw was the dumbest thing that could have been done, next to pairing him with Ruckus and Smokes. |
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Post by therealjswo on Jun 21, 2008 23:36:35 GMT -5
HHH level? Hmmm.....isnt that how Danielson is booked or just a shade under? I'm not asking for the guy to be invincible. I'm asking for him not to be jobbed and left to the undercard. I'm tired of Brian Danielson in the main event scene. I'm tired of Aries there too. I'll take Nigel, Claudio, Hero....anyday. You do realize Danielson has jobbed a lot in the last year, losing to everyone from Jimmy Jacobs to Nigel right on down the line to guys like Morishima and Stevens. So your theory of him being booked like HHH is wrong. Aries is hardly a main eventer, and has headlined less then five shows in the last six months. Ironic you say I should take off my Chikara colored glasses. Especially considering this is coming from MISTER RING OF HONOR! At least I can admit Chikara's faults. In your eyes, ROH can do NO WRONG! ROH does plenty wrong, and if you'd pay attention you'd notice I've said that. There's a lot about ROH I don't like, Delirious, the tag title scene, the lack of a focus on guys like Stevens and ALBRIGHT. There's a plethora of stuff that I'd like to see different in ROH, but I don't constantly bitch and moan because that won't change anything. Side Note: Unmaskig Jigsaw was the dumbest thing that could have been done, next to pairing him with Ruckus and Smokes. I'm willing to bet you've not seen how awesome those two are together in the ring. Besides as the resident CHIKARAphile, you should know that Jigsaw took his mask off as a decision made by himself and not Gabe. In fact Gabe had nothing to do with the mask being taken off, it was totally Jig's idea. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jun 21, 2008 23:56:42 GMT -5
Homicide put JAPW over in various interviews as the top indy promotion not long ago. Try again.
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Post by MX5 on Jun 22, 2008 1:16:55 GMT -5
I can't stand to watch Erick Stevens matches. So I'm glad ROH doesn't focus on him or even Albright. They bore me, alot.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jun 22, 2008 1:52:16 GMT -5
Stevens and Albright will end up being part of the new No Remorse Coprs and feud with the new SnS Inc in this faction cluster  . |
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Post by MX5 on Jun 22, 2008 2:33:54 GMT -5
Which is exactly what I'm not interested in...
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jun 22, 2008 2:42:20 GMT -5
Which is exactly what I'm not interested in... Oh, I'm not interested in it either. Just throwing it out there. |
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Post by therealjswo on Jun 22, 2008 11:30:09 GMT -5
Stevens and Albright will end up being part of the new No Remorse Coprs and feud with the new SnS Inc in this faction cluster . As of now that isn't the plan, that could change however. Homicide put JAPW over in various interviews as the top indy promotion not long ago. Try again. ROH isn't an indy, and he's said that before too. |
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Post by Blade on Jun 22, 2008 11:51:03 GMT -5
Stevens and Albright will end up being part of the new No Remorse Coprs and feud with the new SnS Inc in this faction cluster . As of now that isn't the plan, that could change however. Homicide put JAPW over in various interviews as the top indy promotion not long ago. Try again. ROH isn't an indy, and he's said that before too. Homicide's Myspace pretty much tells you he respects JAPW a ton. They're #1 on his Myspace and ROH is no where to be found. |
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Post by the franchise on Jun 22, 2008 12:28:51 GMT -5
When you have to use myspace as a source for your argument you must have nothing left to say.
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Post by Blade on Jun 22, 2008 13:05:13 GMT -5
When you have to use myspace as a source for your argument you must have nothing left to say. So when wrestlers blog on their Myspace about certain situation's immediately means they're false because it's on Myspace. Makes sense.  Let me guess, your one of those anti-myspace kind of people because your anti-social. Or should I assume you have a Myspace but have it loaded with pictures of puro talent that are captioned with "The Best" |
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Post by the franchise on Jun 22, 2008 13:10:42 GMT -5
Since I don't love Myspace I must be anti-social. What else could it be? Nothing beats talking to some person over the internet. I wonder how people talked to each other without myspace. I can only imagine the horrors.
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Post by jlavaia on Jun 22, 2008 13:26:27 GMT -5
ROH isn't an indy, and he's said that before too. then what is it? b/c most people feel that ROH is an indy promotion. what you categorize it as? it's not a big promotion, they're not mainstream, they have no regular tv deal, and their wrestlers wrestle for multiple promotions. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jun 22, 2008 15:41:48 GMT -5
I do think ROH is an indy but for the sake of this argument let's say it's not. He's still putting JAPW over as the top indy promotion out there so he can't be too unhappy with it.
But then again JSWO has been riding this "Homicide doesn't like the JAPW product" since 2006. Maybe in 2006 he was unhappy with the product but he seems pretty happy with the product right now.
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Post by therealjswo on Jun 22, 2008 20:11:40 GMT -5
Since I don't love Myspace I must be anti-social. What else could it be? Nothing beats talking to some person over the internet. I wonder how people talked to each other without myspace. I can only imagine the horrors. Just as you said, using myspace as a justification is absurd. Certainly comparable to using wikipedia. ROH isn't an indy, and he's said that before too. then what is it? b/c most people feel that ROH is an indy promotion. what you categorize it as? it's not a big promotion, they're not mainstream, they have no regular tv deal, and their wrestlers wrestle for multiple promotions. ROH is a national wrestling promotion. Television doesn't stipulate the difference between indy and non-indy. Contracts however do. |
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Post by Blade on Jun 23, 2008 8:48:52 GMT -5
Since I don't love Myspace I must be anti-social. What else could it be? Nothing beats talking to some person over the internet. I wonder how people talked to each other without myspace. I can only imagine the horrors. No friends? I guess Myspace would suck if you didn't have any friends huh? A point I would like to make. Aren't you communicating over the internet using this message board? Why are you discussing wrestling in here if "nothing beats talking on the internet?" Once again you make zero sense. K5, like UK said even if you consider ROH a non independent promotion, Homicide has still put JAPW over CHIKARA, CZW, IWA-MS, and PWG so I'm sure he likes the product. |
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