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Post by Supreme on Jun 18, 2008 22:34:43 GMT -5
Alright, did some Wikipedia searching and found the AAA roster. Not sure if it's up to date. But here it goes.
Abismo Negro Aero Star Alan El Alebrije w/Cuije Billy Boy (wrestler) Brazo de Plata Cassandro Cibernético Chessman Charly Manson Crazy Boy El Cuervo Decniss El Angel El Elegido Escoria Espiritu Extreme Tiger El Gran Apache El Guapito Fuerza Guerrera Juventud Guerrera Halloween Hator Histeria El Intocable Joe Lider La Fiera La Parka (AAA) Laredo Kid Latin Lover El Mesias El Monsther w/Chucky Mr. Niebla Némesis Nicho el Millonario Octagón El Oriental Ozz Pegasso Pimpinela Escarlata Pirata Morgan Polvo de Estrellas Rey Cometa Scorpio Jr. Norman Smiley Alan Stone Chris Stone Super Calo Super Fly Kenzo Suzuki Tinieblas Jr. Sean "X-Pac" Waltman El Zorro Zumbido Teddy Hart Jack Evans
Now I follow AAA on Galavision every week. Do most guys on that list impress you? Would you like to see the likes of Charly Manson and Joe Lider in ROH? How many people on that list would you REALLY go out and REALLY want to see on that list? The list of no's far outweighs the list of yes's. It may be fun to watch on Galavision but are you really going to mark out and go to shows just to see Abismo Negro?
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Jun 18, 2008 22:42:58 GMT -5
I'm more of a CMLL guy, AAA has never interested me.
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jlavaia
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Post by jlavaia on Jun 19, 2008 1:21:17 GMT -5
Alright, did some Wikipedia searching and found the AAA roster. Not sure if it's up to date. But here it goes. Abismo Negro Aero Star Alan El Alebrije w/Cuije Billy Boy (wrestler) Brazo de Plata Cassandro Cibernético Chessman Charly Manson Crazy Boy El Cuervo Decniss El Angel El Elegido Escoria Espiritu Extreme Tiger El Gran Apache El Guapito Fuerza Guerrera Juventud Guerrera Halloween Hator Histeria El Intocable Joe Lider La Fiera La Parka (AAA) Laredo Kid Latin Lover El Mesias El Monsther w/Chucky Mr. Niebla Némesis Nicho el Millonario Octagón El Oriental Ozz Pegasso Pimpinela Escarlata Pirata Morgan Polvo de Estrellas Rey Cometa Scorpio Jr. Norman Smiley Alan Stone Chris Stone Super Calo Super Fly Kenzo Suzuki Tinieblas Jr. Sean "X-Pac" Waltman El Zorro Zumbido Teddy Hart Jack Evans Now I follow AAA on Galavision every week. Do most guys on that list impress you? Would you like to see the likes of Charly Manson and Joe Lider in ROH? How many people on that list would you REALLY go out and REALLY want to see on that list? The list of no's far outweighs the list of yes's. It may be fun to watch on Galavision but are you really going to mark out and go to shows just to see Abismo Negro? that list is way off. Wikipedia is always so wrong when it comes to Mexican wrestling as it's american casual fans who made the pages. - Abismo Negro is set to leave the company - Guapito is not a wrestler and never has been - Fuerza Guerrera and Latin Lover havent been with AAA since early 2007 - Mr. Niebla is no longer with AAA, he's in CMLL - Norman Smiley and La Fiera havent been under contract with AAA in well over 10 years you've misspelled a bunch of names and you're missing the entire Women's division. you're also missing a ton of the low card guys and you're missing some mid-carders. you listed about 5 low carders and no one else. never believe anything you get off Wikipedia containing to Mexican Wrestling as it is wrong about 90% of the time. for someone who follows the promotion every week, i'd think you'd be able to fix the mistakes or see how wrong it was and not even bother posting it. also if you post the ROH roster on a Mexican forum and ask them who they would want to see off of the list, the answer would probaly be no one. hence why this is a complete fabrication. ROH guys cant draw in Mexico and most AAA guys cant draw in the US. it doesnt make any sense for the 2 promotions to exchange wrestlers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2008 11:54:32 GMT -5
Is luchawiki a reliable source?
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jlavaia
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Post by jlavaia on Jun 19, 2008 14:57:46 GMT -5
Is luchawiki a reliable source? more so than regular wikipedia. it's a fan made site as well, but it's made and maintained by more die hard fans. there roster pages are alittle far behind and off, but most of their championship stuff is correct and up to date. luchablog is the best site for lucha news and info. but just a word of advice, dont post comments on that boad unless you're diehard with lucha and know your stuff or most of those guys, myself included, will eat you alive, and alot of them wont ever let up. but if you just want news go there. but they are current as of mexico and stuff is listed as it happens, so if you watch AAA and CMLL on tv in the US which is a month behind, stuff will be revealed, such as results and roster switches and injuries and what not.
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Post by Blehschmidt on Jun 19, 2008 15:36:58 GMT -5
Since it didn't get posted in the last post, here is the link to the Lucha Blog for anyone who wants it. www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/Also, it somehow this deal works out, I really hope it can lead to Fabi and Mari Apache working some Shimmer dates....that would be spectacular!!
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Jun 19, 2008 22:54:58 GMT -5
I think that this is great.
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Post by AndyPeck13 on Jun 20, 2008 10:49:52 GMT -5
for those saying this is fake and stuff...look what was just posted by roh's myspace...
"-ROH's top officials and AAA's top officials recently met face-to-face in Manhattan, NY to discuss talent exchanges and other ventures. Nothing has been confirmed yet, but talks have been very positive. It looks like partnership is developing between ROH, AAA and Pro Wrestling NOAH. ROH also has Dragon Gate, FIP and SHIMMER as partners. The NWA World Heavyweight Title is also now in ROH. This means that ROH has working relationships with NOAH, Dragon Gate, FIP, SHIMMER, NWA and a growing one with AAA."
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Post by jlavaia on Jun 20, 2008 12:11:12 GMT -5
for those saying this is fake and stuff...look what was just posted by roh's myspace... "-ROH's top officials and AAA's top officials recently met face-to-face in Manhattan, NY to discuss talent exchanges and other ventures. Nothing has been confirmed yet, but talks have been very positive. It looks like partnership is developing between ROH, AAA and Pro Wrestling NOAH. ROH also has Dragon Gate, FIP and SHIMMER as partners. The NWA World Heavyweight Title is also now in ROH. This means that ROH has working relationships with NOAH, Dragon Gate, FIP, SHIMMER, NWA and a growing one with AAA." that's funny. Roldan and Konnan havent left Mexico at all recently and they are AAA's top officials. how did they meet with Gabe face to face? also the fact that it says nothing is confirmed should tell you that it's not happening. i'm sure ROH would like it to happen, but for AAA it makes no sense. they are one of the 2 top promotions in Mexico. ROH is a small indy promotion in the US. ROH has no one that can draw in Mexico. this deal is the equivolent of AULL reaching a talent exchange agreement with WWE. it makes no sense. and how can they have a growing relationship with AAA, when there is no relationship. like i continue to tell you all, this is a fabricated story b/c Danielson is working for AAA, so some idiot decided to make up a story about talent exchanges b/c one guy who works for the company is wrestling there. how about i do the same. here it goes: Rocky Romero works for CMLL, so ROH and CMLL are entering into a partnership for talent exchange. that is how it starts, one person posting something stupid.
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Post by therealjswo on Jun 20, 2008 12:40:18 GMT -5
for those saying this is fake and stuff...look what was just posted by roh's myspace... "-ROH's top officials and AAA's top officials recently met face-to-face in Manhattan, NY to discuss talent exchanges and other ventures. Nothing has been confirmed yet, but talks have been very positive. It looks like partnership is developing between ROH, AAA and Pro Wrestling NOAH. ROH also has Dragon Gate, FIP and SHIMMER as partners. The NWA World Heavyweight Title is also now in ROH. This means that ROH has working relationships with NOAH, Dragon Gate, FIP, SHIMMER, NWA and a growing one with AAA." that's funny. Roldan and Konnan havent left Mexico at all recently and they are AAA's top officials. how did they meet with Gabe face to face? also the fact that it says nothing is confirmed should tell you that it's not happening. i'm sure ROH would like it to happen, but for AAA it makes no sense. they are one of the 2 top promotions in Mexico. ROH is a small indy promotion in the US. ROH has no one that can draw in Mexico. this deal is the equivolent of AULL reaching a talent exchange agreement with WWE. it makes no sense. and how can they have a growing relationship with AAA, when there is no relationship. like i continue to tell you all, this is a fabricated story b/c Danielson is working for AAA, so some idiot decided to make up a story about talent exchanges b/c one guy who works for the company is wrestling there. how about i do the same. here it goes: Rocky Romero works for CMLL, so ROH and CMLL are entering into a partnership for talent exchange. that is how it starts, one person posting something stupid. Lol at thinking this guy knows where Konan and Roldan are at all times of day. This guy is clearly becoming one of the most delusional individuals on the net.
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Post by Blade on Jun 20, 2008 14:10:55 GMT -5
that's funny. Roldan and Konnan havent left Mexico at all recently and they are AAA's top officials. how did they meet with Gabe face to face? also the fact that it says nothing is confirmed should tell you that it's not happening. i'm sure ROH would like it to happen, but for AAA it makes no sense. they are one of the 2 top promotions in Mexico. ROH is a small indy promotion in the US. ROH has no one that can draw in Mexico. this deal is the equivolent of AULL reaching a talent exchange agreement with WWE. it makes no sense. and how can they have a growing relationship with AAA, when there is no relationship. like i continue to tell you all, this is a fabricated story b/c Danielson is working for AAA, so some idiot decided to make up a story about talent exchanges b/c one guy who works for the company is wrestling there. how about i do the same. here it goes: Rocky Romero works for CMLL, so ROH and CMLL are entering into a partnership for talent exchange. that is how it starts, one person posting something stupid. Lol at thinking this guy knows where Konan and Roldan are at all times of day. This guy is clearly becoming one of the most delusional individuals on the net. I thought Jason Powell was a laughable resource? It seems he was pretty accurate here.
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Post by therealjswo on Jun 20, 2008 14:40:38 GMT -5
Lol at thinking this guy knows where Konan and Roldan are at all times of day. This guy is clearly becoming one of the most delusional individuals on the net. I thought Jason Powell was a laughable resource? It seems he was pretty accurate here. Meltzer reported this 2 issues ago and the ROH talent were informed of this during the 6/6 Connecticut pre-show meeting, which was when I found out this was happening. Try again.
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jlavaia
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Post by jlavaia on Jun 20, 2008 18:18:51 GMT -5
that's funny. Roldan and Konnan havent left Mexico at all recently and they are AAA's top officials. how did they meet with Gabe face to face? also the fact that it says nothing is confirmed should tell you that it's not happening. i'm sure ROH would like it to happen, but for AAA it makes no sense. they are one of the 2 top promotions in Mexico. ROH is a small indy promotion in the US. ROH has no one that can draw in Mexico. this deal is the equivolent of AULL reaching a talent exchange agreement with WWE. it makes no sense. and how can they have a growing relationship with AAA, when there is no relationship. like i continue to tell you all, this is a fabricated story b/c Danielson is working for AAA, so some idiot decided to make up a story about talent exchanges b/c one guy who works for the company is wrestling there. how about i do the same. here it goes: Rocky Romero works for CMLL, so ROH and CMLL are entering into a partnership for talent exchange. that is how it starts, one person posting something stupid. Lol at thinking this guy knows where Konan and Roldan are at all times of day. This guy is clearly becoming one of the most delusional individuals on the net. its not all times of the day, the guy who posted said they met in NYC, which would mean it was when ROH was last there. at that same exact time both Konnan and Roldan were doing a tv taping and each appeared on screen during it. they cant be in 2 places at once. i'm willing to bet that you're one of the people who helped to fabricate this story or you just no nothing of Mexican wrestling and how the promotions work. probaly alittle of both.
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Post by Blade on Jun 20, 2008 19:03:14 GMT -5
Lol at thinking this guy knows where Konan and Roldan are at all times of day. This guy is clearly becoming one of the most delusional individuals on the net. its not all times of the day, the guy who posted said they met in NYC, which would mean it was when ROH was last there. at that same exact time both Konnan and Roldan were doing a tv taping and each appeared on screen during it. they cant be in 2 places at once. i'm willing to bet that you're one of the people who helped to fabricate this story or you just no nothing of Mexican wrestling and how the promotions work. probaly alittle of both. Arguing with K5 is a lost cause. It wouldn't be the first time ROH management lied to their fans.
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Post by AndyPeck13 on Jun 20, 2008 20:28:27 GMT -5
Lol at thinking this guy knows where Konan and Roldan are at all times of day. This guy is clearly becoming one of the most delusional individuals on the net. its not all times of the day, the guy who posted said they met in NYC, which would mean it was when ROH was last there. at that same exact time both Konnan and Roldan were doing a tv taping and each appeared on screen during it. they cant be in 2 places at once. i'm willing to bet that you're one of the people who helped to fabricate this story or you just no nothing of Mexican wrestling and how the promotions work. probaly alittle of both. i'm in no way saying it's true...BUT...just b/c it says they met in NYC doesn't mean that it had to take place the last time ROH was there
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Post by therealjswo on Jun 20, 2008 21:59:47 GMT -5
Lol at thinking this guy knows where Konan and Roldan are at all times of day. This guy is clearly becoming one of the most delusional individuals on the net. its not all times of the day, the guy who posted said they met in NYC, which would mean it was when ROH was last there. at that same exact time both Konnan and Roldan were doing a tv taping and each appeared on screen during it. they cant be in 2 places at once. i'm willing to bet that you're one of the people who helped to fabricate this story or you just no nothing of Mexican wrestling and how the promotions work. probaly alittle of both. You do know ROH is based in Philadelphia and it's a quick couple hour or less drive to NYC from Philadelphia and a slightly longer train ride right? You are right on one thing(which is a first), I don't know much about lucha, other then what Jack Evans has told me. I don't speak Spanish fluently so I don't understand the announcing nor do I care for the style. In short, you're little gimmick isn't working, keep it up and you won't be here much longer. its not all times of the day, the guy who posted said they met in NYC, which would mean it was when ROH was last there. at that same exact time both Konnan and Roldan were doing a tv taping and each appeared on screen during it. they cant be in 2 places at once. i'm willing to bet that you're one of the people who helped to fabricate this story or you just no nothing of Mexican wrestling and how the promotions work. probaly alittle of both. Arguing with K5 is a lost cause. It wouldn't be the first time ROH management lied to their fans. This complaint coming from someone who supports JAPW, a company that is viewed as the laughing stock of indy wrestling. Good work.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 20, 2008 22:06:01 GMT -5
its not all times of the day, the guy who posted said they met in NYC, which would mean it was when ROH was last there. at that same exact time both Konnan and Roldan were doing a tv taping and each appeared on screen during it. they cant be in 2 places at once. i'm willing to bet that you're one of the people who helped to fabricate this story or you just no nothing of Mexican wrestling and how the promotions work. probaly alittle of both. You do know ROH is based in Philadelphia and it's a quick couple hour or less drive to NYC from Philadelphia and a slightly longer train ride right? You are right on one thing(which is a first), I don't know much about lucha, other then what Jack Evans has told me. I don't speak Spanish fluently so I don't understand the announcing nor do I care for the style. In short, you're little gimmick isn't working, keep it up and you won't be here much longer. Arguing with K5 is a lost cause. It wouldn't be the first time ROH management lied to their fans. This complaint coming from someone who supports JAPW, a company that is viewed as the laughing stock of indy wrestling. Good work. I've never been a big JAPW fan. But they are putting together a much better product than ROH is these days. ROH is being raped of their talent by the E and TNA. They survived this before by replenishing with new stars. ROH isnt or is unable to do so at this point. Their biggest star, they treat like some cheap suit......talkn about Chris Hero.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jun 20, 2008 23:59:23 GMT -5
JSWO's obession with JAPW is a very weird one. A very unhealthy one too.
JAPW is the laughing stock of indy wrestling to who? Yourself? Last time I checked they were one of the most well respected indy out there that was the first to recognize and make a name out talent such as Homicide, Low Ki, the Briscoes, Kenny Omega, Jay Lethal, Da Hit Sqaud, Teddy Hart, Jack Evans, Dixie, Insane Dragon, SAT, Red(when he was good), El Generico, Kevin Steen, Trent Acid(when he was one of the best on the indys), Xavier and plenty of others.
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Post by Blade on Jun 21, 2008 0:17:47 GMT -5
JSWO with a JAPW shot, how original. Laughing stock of indy wrestling? Tell Homicide that. He'll slap the ROH out of you.
It's very common for you to get upset when someone speaks the truth about ROH when it's negative. Let's see off the top of my head when ROH lied to their fans.
1. General Admission Seating. Way to go ROH! 2. Claiming huge success on PPV when we all know the regular fans are the only buyers and that it has been confirmed ticket and DVD sales haven't changed for the better. 3. Refuses to admit they've pulled talent from other shows and claiming they sold out venues when tons of seats are empty.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jun 21, 2008 0:29:26 GMT -5
K5, Blade and Undisputed Kid need to all get in a circle and suck each others dicks. I cannot count how many fights I have seen by these guys over the SAME SUBJECT. I know all 3 of you will say something like "I don't start it", but each of you keep the crapstirring. Get in a chat room and argue over whats better: JAPW or ROH.
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