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Post by The L.F.C Fan on Jun 27, 2008 13:49:57 GMT -5
of the re-emergence of great WWE. I really feel the draft and supplemental draft were great in re-doing the rosters and after tonight and Night of Champions I think we'll have alot to watch for. Anyone share my opinion or think the complete opposite or anything?
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Post by the nexus on Jun 27, 2008 13:52:59 GMT -5
well alot of the people that are leaving smackdown will probably be on tonight and the people who got drafted to smackdown will probably be on next week, Except HHH who they are saying will be on.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 27, 2008 13:56:32 GMT -5
of the re-emergence of great WWE. I really feel the draft and supplemental draft were great in re-doing the rosters and after tonight and Night of Champions I think we'll have alot to watch for. Anyone share my opinion or think the complete opposite or anything? I don't think it makes a difference. The only way to make WWE "great again" is to cut the dead weight (unneeded wrestlers) and combine the rosters again. What was so great about the WWE back in the Attitude Era was you had Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H, Mankind, Chris Jericho, Undertaker, Kane....on RAW and SMACKDOWN....you could do something on Monday and then continue the storyline 3 days later on Smackdown. NOW, with three shows...the only way to improve one show is by HURTING another show. Clearly WWE has made an effort to improve Smackdown....however, in doing so they have significantly weakened RAW and DESTROYED ECW. So until all three shows are on par with each other, the WWE as a whole can never be truly great again when you have shows that are clearly worse or better than the other shows in comparison. |
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Post by Sami Hazard on Jun 27, 2008 14:00:03 GMT -5
I actually feel that way, Smackdown might not just be the B show anymore.
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Post by T1 on Jun 27, 2008 14:27:11 GMT -5
of the re-emergence of great WWE. I really feel the draft and supplemental draft were great in re-doing the rosters and after tonight and Night of Champions I think we'll have alot to watch for. Anyone share my opinion or think the complete opposite or anything? I don't think it makes a difference. The only way to make WWE "great again" is to cut the dead weight (unneeded wrestlers) and combine the rosters again. What was so great about the WWE back in the Attitude Era was you had Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H, Mankind, Chris Jericho, Undertaker, Kane....on RAW and SMACKDOWN....you could do something on Monday and then continue the storyline 3 days later on Smackdown. NOW, with three shows...the only way to improve one show is by HURTING another show. Clearly WWE has made an effort to improve Smackdown....however, in doing so they have significantly weakened RAW and DESTROYED ECW. So until all three shows are on par with each other, the WWE as a whole can never be truly great again when you have shows that are clearly worse or better than the other shows in comparison. How did they " significantly weaken" Raw? They got Rey Mysterio, Batista, Kane, CM Punk, & Kofi. Combine these guys with John Cena, Randy Orton, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, JBL. Raw still has more star power than the other brands combined, although I personally think Smackdown has the better talent. Triple H is not a draw. He will not magically raise ratings. Rey Mysterio & John Cena are both better sellers than 'H.. |
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Post by Quanthor on Jun 27, 2008 14:34:51 GMT -5
IMO they should make RAW a three hour show and cut out one of their other programs.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 27, 2008 14:36:10 GMT -5
I don't think it makes a difference. The only way to make WWE "great again" is to cut the dead weight (unneeded wrestlers) and combine the rosters again. What was so great about the WWE back in the Attitude Era was you had Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H, Mankind, Chris Jericho, Undertaker, Kane....on RAW and SMACKDOWN....you could do something on Monday and then continue the storyline 3 days later on Smackdown. NOW, with three shows...the only way to improve one show is by HURTING another show. Clearly WWE has made an effort to improve Smackdown....however, in doing so they have significantly weakened RAW and DESTROYED ECW. So until all three shows are on par with each other, the WWE as a whole can never be truly great again when you have shows that are clearly worse or better than the other shows in comparison. How did they " significantly weaken" Raw? They got Rey Mysterio, Batista, Kane, CM Punk, & Kofi. Combine these guys with John Cena, Randy Orton, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, JBL. Raw still has more star power than the other brands combined, although I personally think Smackdown has the better talent. Triple H is not a draw. He will not magically raise ratings. Rey Mysterio & John Cena are both better sellers than 'H.. As shown by Rey Mysterio's embarrassing run as World Champion on Smackdown....he can't draw. He's a nice little mid-card compliment to a roster, but he can't be in the main event and he can't carry a show. Triple H as a heel can CARRY not only ONE SHOW, but back in the day Triple H as a heel carried the entire COMPANY on his back. Batista almost didn't even get a match at Wrestlemania. They had to grasp at straws to even get him on the card. He's not as big as he once was and he can't draw as well as he once did...people don't care about Batista as much as they once did. Kane's career is basically over. He's the biggest joke now. He was a jobber on Smackdown. They made him ECW Champion and I think he's lost every match on Sci-Fi since he won the belt. I don't think he's defended it at all except one PPV re-match against Chavo. He's not going to help RAW. Kofi and CM Punk aren't big enough names to help RAW that much yet. I see CM Punk going after Jericho and the IC title...but that still isn't the main event. John Cena, Batista and Shawn Michaels are your only guys who are main event material and Championship material on RAW. Somebody is going to have to turn heel or this isn't going to work. |
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Post by JCF on Jun 27, 2008 14:37:08 GMT -5
Next week is when I think things will really get better. I'm still excited for tonight shows though.
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Post by chumped on Jun 27, 2008 14:38:54 GMT -5
How did they " significantly weaken" Raw? They got Rey Mysterio, Batista, Kane, CM Punk, & Kofi. Combine these guys with John Cena, Randy Orton, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, JBL. Raw still has more star power than the other brands combined, although I personally think Smackdown has the better talent. Triple H is not a draw. He will not magically raise ratings. Rey Mysterio & John Cena are both better sellers than 'H.. As shown by Rey Mysterio's embarrassing run as World Champion on Smackdown....he can't draw. He's a nice little mid-card compliment to a roster, but he can't be in the main event and he can't carry a show. Triple H as a heel can CARRY not only ONE SHOW, but back in the day Triple H as a heel carried the entire COMPANY on his back. Batista almost didn't even get a match at Wrestlemania. They had to grasp at straws to even get him on the card. He's not as big as he once was and he can't draw as well as he once did...people don't care about Batista as much as they once did. Kane's career is basically over. He's the biggest joke now. He was a jobber on Smackdown. They made him ECW Champion and I think he's lost every match on Sci-Fi since he won the belt. I don't think he's defended it at all except one PPV re-match against Chavo. He's not going to help RAW. Kofi and CM Punk aren't big enough names to help RAW that much yet. I see CM Punk going after Jericho and the IC title...but that still isn't the main event. John Cena, Batista and Shawn Michaels are your only guys who are main event material and Championship material on RAW. Somebody is going to have to turn heel or this isn't going to work. You forgot Randy Orton and Chris Jericho. If you can mention Batista, you can mention those two. |
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Post by Quanthor on Jun 27, 2008 14:39:42 GMT -5
You forgot JBL Lorenzo, he's championship material and plays an awesome heel.
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Post by takingyouout on Jun 27, 2008 14:42:03 GMT -5
IMO, I have read the SD spoilers. Nothing worth tuning in for.
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Post by chumped on Jun 27, 2008 14:43:13 GMT -5
IMO, I have read the SD spoilers. Nothing worth tuning in for. I agree with you. There is absolutely nothing there that serves as a reason to stay in the house on a Friday Night and watch it. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 27, 2008 14:50:12 GMT -5
As shown by Rey Mysterio's embarrassing run as World Champion on Smackdown....he can't draw. He's a nice little mid-card compliment to a roster, but he can't be in the main event and he can't carry a show. Triple H as a heel can CARRY not only ONE SHOW, but back in the day Triple H as a heel carried the entire COMPANY on his back. Batista almost didn't even get a match at Wrestlemania. They had to grasp at straws to even get him on the card. He's not as big as he once was and he can't draw as well as he once did...people don't care about Batista as much as they once did. Kane's career is basically over. He's the biggest joke now. He was a jobber on Smackdown. They made him ECW Champion and I think he's lost every match on Sci-Fi since he won the belt. I don't think he's defended it at all except one PPV re-match against Chavo. He's not going to help RAW. Kofi and CM Punk aren't big enough names to help RAW that much yet. I see CM Punk going after Jericho and the IC title...but that still isn't the main event. John Cena, Batista and Shawn Michaels are your only guys who are main event material and Championship material on RAW. Somebody is going to have to turn heel or this isn't going to work. You forgot Randy Orton and Chris Jericho. If you can mention Batista, you can mention those two. Well kind of like baseball....you can only play with the guys who can actually hit the field. Right now we are unfortunately without Randy Orton for at least the next 4 months...maybe longer. Chris Jericho probably isn't World Title material at this point in his career. He hasn't been a World Champion in 7 years, He's gotten poor reviews every time since then that he's challenged for a World Title. I think his feud with Orton was seen as such a failure that he probably won't get another opportunity. You forgot JBL Lorenzo, he's championship material and plays an awesome heel. JBL injured his back again and may never wrestle again. So much like Orton.....JBL can't help us for a while...if at all. |
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Post by Quanthor on Jun 27, 2008 14:58:30 GMT -5
You forgot JBL Lorenzo, he's championship material and plays an awesome heel. JBL injured his back again and may never wrestle again. So much like Orton.....JBL can't help us for a while...if at all. Really? That sucks, I had no idea that happened. |
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Post by cenaroxorz123 on Jun 27, 2008 15:05:49 GMT -5
It should have an interesting feel to it.
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Post by Groundswell on Jun 27, 2008 15:06:40 GMT -5
The Supplemental Draft doesn't go into effect tonight as Smackdown was taped on Tuesday.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Jun 27, 2008 15:07:13 GMT -5
I don't think it makes a difference. The only way to make WWE "great again" is to cut the dead weight (unneeded wrestlers) and combine the rosters again. What was so great about the WWE back in the Attitude Era was you had Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H, Mankind, Chris Jericho, Undertaker, Kane....on RAW and SMACKDOWN....you could do something on Monday and then continue the storyline 3 days later on Smackdown. NOW, with three shows...the only way to improve one show is by HURTING another show. Clearly WWE has made an effort to improve Smackdown....however, in doing so they have significantly weakened RAW and DESTROYED ECW. So until all three shows are on par with each other, the WWE as a whole can never be truly great again when you have shows that are clearly worse or better than the other shows in comparison. How did they " significantly weaken" Raw? They got Rey Mysterio, Batista, Kane, CM Punk, & Kofi. Combine these guys with John Cena, Randy Orton, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, JBL. Raw still has more star power than the other brands combined, although I personally think Smackdown has the better talent. Triple H is not a draw. He will not magically raise ratings. Rey Mysterio & John Cena are both better sellers than 'H.. Jeff Hardy is a better draw than those 3 at this point. And I'm not a Jeff Hardy fan. Also, I have to agree with Lorenzo in this one, the brand extension should end. |
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Post by markallenkellner on Jun 27, 2008 15:08:03 GMT -5
For once, someone one is 100% correct on these boards! of the re-emergence of great WWE. I really feel the draft and supplemental draft were great in re-doing the rosters and after tonight and Night of Champions I think we'll have alot to watch for. Anyone share my opinion or think the complete opposite or anything? I don't think it makes a difference. The only way to make WWE "great again" is to cut the dead weight (unneeded wrestlers) and combine the rosters again. What was so great about the WWE back in the Attitude Era was you had Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H, Mankind, Chris Jericho, Undertaker, Kane....on RAW and SMACKDOWN....you could do something on Monday and then continue the storyline 3 days later on Smackdown. NOW, with three shows...the only way to improve one show is by HURTING another show. Clearly WWE has made an effort to improve Smackdown....however, in doing so they have significantly weakened RAW and DESTROYED ECW. So until all three shows are on par with each other, the WWE as a whole can never be truly great again when you have shows that are clearly worse or better than the other shows in comparison. |
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Post by missedgehead on Jun 27, 2008 16:58:50 GMT -5
We will have to see how it goes. Tonight's show looks ok. Already seeing the Edge burial job already, but I look forward to seeing him anyway so I am gonna watch. I do agree with whomever it was who said that Batista is not the draw he once was, and yeah, Y2J is not World Champ material. I can't wait to see Orton back.....*crosses fingers*
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Post by Mark on Jun 27, 2008 18:02:46 GMT -5
of the re-emergence of great WWE. I really feel the draft and supplemental draft were great in re-doing the rosters and after tonight and Night of Champions I think we'll have alot to watch for. Anyone share my opinion or think the complete opposite or anything? Look at the results? Hahaha! No. |
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