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Post by newfrigginshow on Jul 1, 2008 13:02:44 GMT -5
Do you like it? Hate it? I haven't seen the last couple of PPV's so I'm just getting caught up watching the video wire. I personally love it. Would be cool if they had a huge faction taking over ROH and taking the belts etc leading to a long fued between some key faces vs. sweet and sour.
Look like that may be the direction they are heading, not sure though.
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Post by Mr. Orange on Jul 1, 2008 13:35:42 GMT -5
I love it, although I liked it more with just Toland, Hero, Dempsey, and Del Ray. I think that's the direction that they're going in. ROH (Strong/Stevens/Claudio/Albright/Pelle) vs. Sweet and Sour Inc.(Richards/Hero/Pearce/Edwards/Shiozaki)
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Post by Flava Dave on Jul 1, 2008 15:37:36 GMT -5
I loved the original lineup (Sweeney, Hero, Tank, Bobby, Sara), but I hate how it's become a safe-haven for shitty dudes like Adam Pearce.
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Post by Heresy on Jul 1, 2008 18:25:42 GMT -5
I haven't watched past 6YA but the stable to me comes off like a bunch of thrown together guys managed by Larry Sweeney. It doesn't have any particular underlying theme or gimmick like the nWO, and it doesn't work like a unit (to my knowledge) which for me is an important aspect of a stable.
Hero, Sweeney, Dempsey, Toland, and Del Ray alone was amazing.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jul 2, 2008 3:52:41 GMT -5
I loved the original. The current one is a complete mess.
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Post by perilloboy123 on Jul 2, 2008 6:39:44 GMT -5
They're one of my favorite stables in all of wrestling, at the moment. Sweeney is an amazing guy to watch. He really is. Davey being added was a huge step for them, IMO.
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Post by AP on Jul 2, 2008 9:54:18 GMT -5
Sweeney helps me wanna like Hero.
Plus to me, Pearce and Sweeney is a godly combo.
Not sure why all you east coasters seem to despise Pearce but I think hes great. He does great things over here with SoCal Pro Wrestling. He wrestled a buddy of mine whos barely in his second year, and they put on one of the best live matches Ive ever seen EVER. I just saw him work Scorpio Sky, and they went the first ten without even a tiny bump and STILL had the crowd in their hands.
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Post by The Raven Effect on Jul 2, 2008 20:32:51 GMT -5
I'm enjoying where it's going. I know it's going to lead to Steel Cage Warfare, where it will be Hero/Richards/Shiozaki/Pearce/and a new member vs. Claudio/Roddy/Albright/Pelle? and of course, the returning BJ Whitmer. It will be great.
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Post by honor123 on Jul 3, 2008 16:03:52 GMT -5
I love it, Sweeney is a god on mic.
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Post by Kick Your Face on Jul 3, 2008 16:35:19 GMT -5
We need a new t-shirt with the faces of Davey Richards, Go Shiozaki, Adam Pearce, Eddie Edwards and Shane Hagadorn added onto it.
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Post by commish13 on Jul 3, 2008 16:42:58 GMT -5
I'm enjoying where it's going. I know it's going to lead to Steel Cage Warfare, where it will be Hero/Richards/Shiozaki/Pearce/ and a new member vs. Claudio/Roddy/Albright/Pelle? and of course, the returning BJ Whitmer. It will be great. Eddie Edwards, friend. I haven't watched past 6YA but the stable to me comes off like a bunch of thrown together guys managed by Larry Sweeney. It doesn't have any particular underlying theme or gimmick like the nWO, and it doesn't work like a unit (to my knowledge) which for me is an important aspect of a stable. Hero, Sweeney, Dempsey, Toland, and Del Ray alone was amazing. The names you mentioned at the end of your post was good for when they were a wrestling comedy troupe. Now, however, Sweeney has assembled a stable of guys in order to take down ROH. So not only does it have an underlying gimmick/theme like the nWo, it basically has the same underlying gimmick/theme as the nWo. It's not a bunch of random guys. Sweeney started with Hero, the main charge and money maker of the stable. Tank Toland and Bobby Dempsey followed shortly thereafter. Toland came in as Hero's personal trainer, and he and Sweeney grabbed Dempsey in order to help prove how great of a trainer Toland is by whipping Bobby into shape. Soon after, they grabbed Sara Del Rey, and now the group had the best female wrestler. Then came the additions. Sweeney announced a hostile takeover, and a few weeks later announced a business deal with the Hangmen Three that would sink that group in with Sweet 'n Sour Inc. Pearce, the leader of the Hangmen, had a mutual reason to join with Sweeney -- the contents of the briefcase. Albright became a reluctant member, only around because he wanted to know what was in the briefcase and how it could help him. BJ Whitmer didn't want anything to do with it, so he left. At this point, the group consisted of: Sweeney, Hero, Pearce, Albright, Del Rey, Toland, Dempsey and Hagadorn. And it all made 100% perfect sense. Sweeney then wanted to grab some of the young, hot talent in ROH, so he made an offer to Eddie Edwards, and he accepted. After a few months had gone by and Albright still hadn't learned what was in the briefcase, he felt he was being disrespected, and he didn't like the way Sweeney and Pearce were using him as just hired muscle instead of sharing their information with him and treating him like a member of a group. So he turned on them, and the group lost one member. As all of this was going on, Sweeney had been talking to Roderick Strong, the leader of another of the top factions in ROH. Sweeney already got one faction to sell out to him, and now he was trying to get another, all in his quest to take ROH over for himself. Strong continuously turned him down. However, one member of Strong's group was becoming unhappy. Strong and Romero treated Davey as a bag carrier and a lackey instead of as an equal, and he got fed up with it. So when Roderick refused to join with Sweeney, Davey decided to go where the money and respect was, and that was with Sweet 'n Sour Inc. Also revealed the same night that Davey joined the group was the contents of the briefcase. It was the NWA Title, the belt which Adam Pearce currently holds. It was another step in the quest to tear down Ring of Honor. A couple weeks later, Sweeney got another big coup, as he signed one of the hottest international talents to his group when he brought Go Shiozaki into the fold. And that's where we are now. Sweeney, Pearce, Hero, Richards, Edwards, Shiozaki, Toland, Del Rey, Dempsey and Hagadorn. And to spell it out even more simple: - Larry Sweeney: Leader and deal-maker. He wants to take over Ring of Honor. - Adam Pearce: Has become second in command. He's in it for the money. His status as NWA Champion could help Sweeney take over Ring of Honor, so Larry is paying Pearce to help him. - Chris Hero: The top wrestler of the group. Originally was the best leverage Sweeney had against ROH, as he would hold Hero out from wrestling in order to get more money. Hero is now still the top wrestler, but is not needed as a pawn any more. - Davey Richards: A strong wrestler and a good hand to have on board. If Sweeney intends to take over ROH, he'll need all of the talent he can pay for, and Richards is a prime example. - Eddie Edwards: A young up-and-comer that ROH seemed to be grooming for a top spot down the line. Sweeney offered him more money, and now he's another in the force against ROH. - Go Shiozaki: The newest, hottest talent from Japan who had begun to make his name in ROH. Now, instead of helping ROH to expand its horizons, Shiozaki is being paid by Sweeney to help destroy ROH. - Sara Del Rey: Still the top female wrestler, although no longer the SHIMMER Champion. She is there to take care of the women of ROH. - Tank Toland: Continues to be Hero's trainer, and also takes care of some of the lower card issues that S 'n S Inc may come across. - Bobby Dempsey: The lovable loser who continues to take all the harassment the group can dish out. Pretty much around for some extra cheap heat. - Shane Hagadorn: He's an bunghole and we all hate him. He probably also carries everybody's bags.
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Post by xshawnxwilliamsx on Jul 3, 2008 18:49:00 GMT -5
I ing love it, but I enjoyed it a lot more when they had Dempsey because watching Toland/Sweeney/Hero push him to his limits and just trash him 24/7 was just hillarious.
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Post by Heresy on Jul 3, 2008 19:08:53 GMT -5
I haven't watched past 6YA but the stable to me comes off like a bunch of thrown together guys managed by Larry Sweeney. It doesn't have any particular underlying theme or gimmick like the nWO, and it doesn't work like a unit (to my knowledge) which for me is an important aspect of a stable. Hero, Sweeney, Dempsey, Toland, and Del Ray alone was amazing. The names you mentioned at the end of your post was good for when they were a wrestling comedy troupe. Now, however, Sweeney has assembled a stable of guys in order to take down ROH. So not only does it have an underlying gimmick/theme like the nWo, it basically has the same underlying gimmick/theme as the nWo. It's not a bunch of random guys. Sweeney started with Hero, the main charge and money maker of the stable. Tank Toland and Bobby Dempsey followed shortly thereafter. Toland came in as Hero's personal trainer, and he and Sweeney grabbed Dempsey in order to help prove how great of a trainer Toland is by whipping Bobby into shape. Soon after, they grabbed Sara Del Rey, and now the group had the best female wrestler. Then came the additions. Sweeney announced a hostile takeover, and a few weeks later announced a business deal with the Hangmen Three that would sink that group in with Sweet 'n Sour Inc. Pearce, the leader of the Hangmen, had a mutual reason to join with Sweeney -- the contents of the briefcase. Albright became a reluctant member, only around because he wanted to know what was in the briefcase and how it could help him. BJ Whitmer didn't want anything to do with it, so he left. At this point, the group consisted of: Sweeney, Hero, Pearce, Albright, Del Rey, Toland, Dempsey and Hagadorn. And it all made 100% perfect sense. Sweeney then wanted to grab some of the young, hot talent in ROH, so he made an offer to Eddie Edwards, and he accepted. After a few months had gone by and Albright still hadn't learned what was in the briefcase, he felt he was being disrespected, and he didn't like the way Sweeney and Pearce were using him as just hired muscle instead of sharing their information with him and treating him like a member of a group. So he turned on them, and the group lost one member. As all of this was going on, Sweeney had been talking to Roderick Strong, the leader of another of the top factions in ROH. Sweeney already got one faction to sell out to him, and now he was trying to get another, all in his quest to take ROH over for himself. Strong continuously turned him down. However, one member of Strong's group was becoming unhappy. Strong and Romero treated Davey as a bag carrier and a lackey instead of as an equal, and he got fed up with it. So when Roderick refused to join with Sweeney, Davey decided to go where the money and respect was, and that was with Sweet 'n Sour Inc. Also revealed the same night that Davey joined the group was the contents of the briefcase. It was the NWA Title, the belt which Adam Pearce currently holds. It was another step in the quest to tear down Ring of Honor. A couple weeks later, Sweeney got another big coup, as he signed one of the hottest international talents to his group when he brought Go Shiozaki into the fold. And that's where we are now. Sweeney, Pearce, Hero, Richards, Edwards, Shiozaki, Toland, Del Rey, Dempsey and Hagadorn. And to spell it out even more simple: - Larry Sweeney: Leader and deal-maker. He wants to take over Ring of Honor. - Adam Pearce: Has become second in command. He's in it for the money. His status as NWA Champion could help Sweeney take over Ring of Honor, so Larry is paying Pearce to help him. - Chris Hero: The top wrestler of the group. Originally was the best leverage Sweeney had against ROH, as he would hold Hero out from wrestling in order to get more money. Hero is now still the top wrestler, but is not needed as a pawn any more. - Davey Richards: A strong wrestler and a good hand to have on board. If Sweeney intends to take over ROH, he'll need all of the talent he can pay for, and Richards is a prime example. - Eddie Edwards: A young up-and-comer that ROH seemed to be grooming for a top spot down the line. Sweeney offered him more money, and now he's another in the force against ROH. - Go Shiozaki: The newest, hottest talent from Japan who had begun to make his name in ROH. Now, instead of helping ROH to expand its horizons, Shiozaki is being paid by Sweeney to help destroy ROH. - Sara Del Rey: Still the top female wrestler, although no longer the SHIMMER Champion. She is there to take care of the women of ROH. - Tank Toland: Continues to be Hero's trainer, and also takes care of some of the lower card issues that S 'n S Inc may come across. - Bobby Dempsey: The lovable loser who continues to take all the harassment the group can dish out. Pretty much around for some extra cheap heat. - Shane Hagadorn: He's an bunghole and we all hate him. He probably also carries everybody's bags. Ahhh, thanks for explaining it... good read.
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Post by Kick Your Face on Jul 3, 2008 22:27:27 GMT -5
I love Hero and all. But I honestly think Davey is better. It seems like he's usually having better matches than Hero on shows.
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Post by drdriver on Jul 4, 2008 3:39:40 GMT -5
I heard that they want to add KENTA in, as him and Shiozaki to be Sweeney's Japanese division of SNS Inc. But, the plan was scrapped.
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Post by zombiesx on Jul 4, 2008 7:21:08 GMT -5
I loved the original lineup (Sweeney, Hero, Tank, Bobby, Sara), but I hate how it's become a safe-haven for ****ty dudes like Adam Pearce. Same I loved it then, and still do now, just more at the start.
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Post by Overnight Sensation on Jul 5, 2008 13:20:25 GMT -5
its become like the nWo..every er is in there
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Jul 5, 2008 14:26:12 GMT -5
Is Shiozaki officially in S&S?
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Post by commish13 on Jul 5, 2008 15:16:41 GMT -5
There hasn't been a show since the one he teamed with Pearce, but it seems like he will be. He's on an extended tour of the US.
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Post by Kick Your Face on Jul 5, 2008 17:32:41 GMT -5
Is Shiozaki officially in S&S? Yep.
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