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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2008 16:41:11 GMT -5
People always say WWE Style, TNA Style, ROH Style, Japan, Mexico, Memphis 101, etc.. But when will people realize it’s all the same?? Think of wrestling as a tire.. You can put spinners on it, you can put jack it up to 15”, you can do whatever, the  ing thing is still round, and is still a tire.. It’s like wrestling.. You can ground, fly, pull hair, or stiff, aka put different spinners on it, dress it up nice, but it’s still round, still wrestling.. It’s still shine, heat, comeback, and finish.. One thing I hate is when someone says they are “Reinventing Wrestling” Well, the reason that wrestling is one of the 2 original American art forms still around, and has been since the 1800’s, is because it’s stayed the same.. And if you reinvent the wheel, you’re gonna kill it, because it’s not the same.. So when will people realize all wrestling is wrestling? |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jul 20, 2008 16:52:33 GMT -5
There is a such thing as WWE style, ROH style, Japanese style, and indy style. Yes wrestling is wrestling but even wrestlers will tell you their is a huge difference in style. Why do you think when a ROH guy goes to WWE he has to adapt?
The WWE style is usually a slower pace match, with more psychology depending on the wrestler and the moves meaning more.
The Japanese style is a strong style with lots of chops, kicks, and head drops.
The ROH style no of days is much like the Japanese style but without any psychology in a lot of it's matches. You have a few like Danielson/Nigel, Nigel/Black and Danielson/Aries that always has psychology but for the part a ROH style is a bunch of head drops with big moves always being kicked out of.
The indy style is kind of hard to explain as it can mean different things as all indy guys are different but the indy style is usually a lot of flippy moves.
Mexico's style is lucha libre. Not much more to say.
So yes, there is a style for each promotion pretty much. Except for TNA, as there really is no "TNA style".
This post is an epic fail.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2008 16:53:37 GMT -5
Each promotion might have their own spinners on the tire, but it's all the same
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2008 16:54:46 GMT -5
You can tell the world is ending when someone compares wrestling to tires. Anyways, there is different styles of wrestling. Puro, Lucha, American, Catch, etc.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jul 20, 2008 16:54:49 GMT -5
Each promotion might have their own spinners on the tire, but it's all the same I don't see what you're trying to say here. The WWE style is different than the ROH style. The Puro style is different than lucha libre. Their ARE different styles in wrestling. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2008 17:01:44 GMT -5
There might be different add ons to it, but it's no different..
There is no difference in the wrestling, it might have different spinners on it, but all wrestling is the same, all of it is shine, heat, comeback, and finish..
No one country or person has revented wrestling, it's still wrestling, while maybe people in Tennessee may perfer someone getting their hair pulled than someone doing a 3r35205743049 Super Mecha Death Christ 2000 B.C 4.0 Beta Spin, but it's still all the same, from one country to another..
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jul 20, 2008 17:09:10 GMT -5
There might be different add ons to it, but it's no different.. There is no difference in the wrestling, it might have different spinners on it, but all wrestling is the same, all of it is shine, heat, comeback, and finish.. No one country or person has revented wrestling, it's still wrestling, while maybe people in Tennessee may perfer someone getting their hair pulled than someone doing a 3r35205743049 Super Mecha Death Christ 2000 B.C 4.0 Beta Spin, but it's still all the same, from one country to another..  |
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 20, 2008 18:32:52 GMT -5
Japanese style is all chops, kicks and head drops? What the hell?
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Post by commish13 on Jul 20, 2008 18:32:54 GMT -5
Here's the problem with your logic. Yes, at the very base and foundation, wrestling is pretty much all the same. The thing is, it's ing BEYOND stupid to try to go any further than that. Mexican lucha is different from WWE style, which is different from Memphis, which is different from the style in a place like NOAH, which is different from ultraviolent and so on and so forth. But that's what makes them different. Just because they're the same at the core doesn't mean they're the same otherwise. You made a completely worthless and unnecessary new thread. Good job. |
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Post by CBT on Jul 20, 2008 18:51:41 GMT -5
Why do I have a feel, knowing Tyger, a part of his "all the same" argument is that they all involve a wrestling ring. For starters.
This should be entertaining though, because I for one don't travel 4-5 hours to see a WWE show, but yet I do for ROH. Explain to me why that is if they are all the same? Could it be a cognitive error most wrestling fans develop?
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Post by Heresy on Jul 20, 2008 19:00:43 GMT -5
The WWE style is usually a slower pace match, with more psychology depending on the wrestler and the moves meaning more. The Japanese style is a strong style with lots of chops, kicks, and head drops. The ROH style no of days is much like the Japanese style but without any psychology in a lot of it's matches. You have a few like Danielson/Nigel, Nigel/Black and Danielson/Aries that always has psychology but for the part a ROH style is a bunch of head drops with big moves always being kicked out of. The indy style is kind of hard to explain as it can mean different things as all indy guys are different but the indy style is usually a lot of flippy moves. I don't think in WWE that moves mean more... the flashy moves just seem more important because they are rare. I think psychology plays a greater role in ROH and the indies, personally. Very rarely do you see a WWE wrestler limp through a match because his leg was worked on. Also, I doubt there is an indy style... the indies are too broad to slap a "style" on it. OVW, IWA-MS, and ROH all place emphasis on different aspects of pro wrestling. I'm not sure what point the OP is trying to get across other than then the obvious... sure all pro wrestling is two or more guys acting in the middle of a ring in front of a live audience... but it can be broken down into several different styles that tailor to specific audiences. Just like all movies are made the same yet can be broken down into action, horror, comedy, etc. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jul 20, 2008 19:39:09 GMT -5
The WWE style is usually a slower pace match, with more psychology depending on the wrestler and the moves meaning more. The Japanese style is a strong style with lots of chops, kicks, and head drops. The ROH style no of days is much like the Japanese style but without any psychology in a lot of it's matches. You have a few like Danielson/Nigel, Nigel/Black and Danielson/Aries that always has psychology but for the part a ROH style is a bunch of head drops with big moves always being kicked out of. The indy style is kind of hard to explain as it can mean different things as all indy guys are different but the indy style is usually a lot of flippy moves. I don't think in WWE that moves mean more... the flashy moves just seem more important because they are rare. I think psychology plays a greater role in ROH and the indies, personally. Very rarely do you see a WWE wrestler limp through a match because his leg was worked on. Also, I doubt there is an indy style... the indies are too broad to slap a "style" on it. OVW, IWA-MS, and ROH all place emphasis on different aspects of pro wrestling. I'm not sure what point the OP is trying to get across other than then the obvious... sure all pro wrestling is two or more guys acting in the middle of a ring in front of a live audience... but it can be broken down into several different styles that tailor to specific audiences. Just like all movies are made the same yet can be broken down into action, horror, comedy, etc. That's where you're wrong. Psychology isn't just working the arm or the leg but also playing the crowd and getting the crowd behind you. Sure there are a few guys who don't know anything about psychology in WWE but other than a select few, neither do the ROH guys. Psychology is getting the crowd to cheer or boo you and making your moves mean something. Why do you think Jake The Snake is the master of psychology? Was his DDT the coolest I've ever seen? Of course not, but it always meant something and he knew how to get the crowd behind him without killing himself. |
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Post by Mark on Jul 20, 2008 19:43:15 GMT -5
lol KVE where did you steal this logic from lol
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Post by AP on Jul 20, 2008 19:45:17 GMT -5
Everyone ever needs to watch the Al Snow shoot from this year. He will enlighten you and make you realize you know nothing.
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Post by Kick Your Face on Jul 20, 2008 21:50:18 GMT -5
Everyone ever needs to watch the Al Snow shoot from this year. He will enlighten you and make you realize you know nothing. What does he say? |
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Post by Heresy on Jul 20, 2008 22:05:48 GMT -5
I don't think in WWE that moves mean more... the flashy moves just seem more important because they are rare. I think psychology plays a greater role in ROH and the indies, personally. Very rarely do you see a WWE wrestler limp through a match because his leg was worked on. Also, I doubt there is an indy style... the indies are too broad to slap a "style" on it. OVW, IWA-MS, and ROH all place emphasis on different aspects of pro wrestling. I'm not sure what point the OP is trying to get across other than then the obvious... sure all pro wrestling is two or more guys acting in the middle of a ring in front of a live audience... but it can be broken down into several different styles that tailor to specific audiences. Just like all movies are made the same yet can be broken down into action, horror, comedy, etc. That's where you're wrong. Psychology isn't just working the arm or the leg but also playing the crowd and getting the crowd behind you. Sure there are a few guys who don't know anything about psychology in WWE but other than a select few, neither do the ROH guys. Psychology is getting the crowd to cheer or boo you and making your moves mean something. Why do you think Jake The Snake is the master of psychology? Was his DDT the coolest I've ever seen? Of course not, but it always meant something and he knew how to get the crowd behind him without killing himself. So having psychology is being over? If that's true... you're saying WWE guys can get over with their audience better than ROH guys can with theirs. I don't think that's the case... but I never said selling was the end all be all of psychology. Just an aspect of it ROH clearly utilizes more than WWE. |
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Post by Doctor Worm on Jul 21, 2008 11:24:04 GMT -5
This like Comparing Chris Hero to PCP Crazy manny or Kevin Steen to John Cena
Each place has its own style cause there is no way you could compair ROH to WWE or IWS to TNA , point is you can't because of their own unqie way like CZW is more in the deathmatch aspect ; as WWE ...well its aspect is in its name , Entertainment. Your basically compairing things like apples and oranges , they are not the same ,but in a way the differences are what make them good.
Look if all wrestling were the same then I'd have stopped watching so long ago and so would many of its fans
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Post by Lennon on Jul 21, 2008 16:39:04 GMT -5
This thread sucks.
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Post by Mark on Jul 21, 2008 17:00:55 GMT -5
basically wrestling is like fruit, you have apples, oranges, bananas, watermelon, they are all different but in the end they are all fruit and some taste better than others and some taste good when mixed
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Post by K5 on Jul 21, 2008 17:12:16 GMT -5
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