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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Jul 21, 2008 18:56:52 GMT -5
He'll return under a new gimmick to team with Curry Man.. He's red, He's hot, He is traditionally cooked at high temperatures...Tandoori Man! i would mark tbh. LOL.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 21, 2008 19:00:33 GMT -5
It's not like TNA was gonna do anything with him.. Right....except PUSH HIM TO THE MOON! I'm glad that Kaz is out. Outside of being a heel, he has no ability of getting over. He cant cut a babyface promo. I think he is getting the singles push that someone like Sabin or Shelley deserves.
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Post by jjkotm on Jul 21, 2008 19:43:43 GMT -5
It's not like TNA was gonna do anything with him.. Right....except PUSH HIM TO THE MOON! I'm glad that Kaz is out. Outside of being a heel, he has no ability of getting over. He cant cut a babyface promo. I think he is getting the singles push that someone like Sabin or Shelley deserves. No, just no. Kaz gets over more than Sabin & Shelley do. While he is better as a heel, TNA has done a good approach with "always coming up short" as Kaz's thing at the moment. Sabin & Shelley in no way can get over. All they do is come out, point to their hands, do spot moves, point to their hands again, and job. Sabin had a ton of chances to get over, but he never developed any character. Shelley had the Paparazzi which was popular, but nobody really cared about his matches. And with all of his bitching, he doesn't deserve anything. Sabin & Shelley are lucky to be in TNA as is. They bring nothing to the table and constantly complain. Kaz has shown signs of good character in the past (specifically when he was a heel), while Sabin has never shown any, and Shelley only showed some in goofy backstage spoofs and segments. (BTW not trying to be a dick, just creating discussion/debate )
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Post by Groundswell on Jul 21, 2008 19:47:46 GMT -5
Right....except PUSH HIM TO THE MOON! I'm glad that Kaz is out. Outside of being a heel, he has no ability of getting over. He cant cut a babyface promo. I think he is getting the singles push that someone like Sabin or Shelley deserves. No, just no. Kaz gets over more than Sabin & Shelley do. While he is better as a heel, TNA has done a good approach with "always coming up short" as Kaz's thing at the moment. Sabin & Shelley in no way can get over. All they do is come out, point to their hands, do spot moves, point to their hands again, and job. Sabin had a ton of chances to get over, but he never developed any character. Shelley had the Paparazzi which was popular, but nobody really cared about his matches. And with all of his bitching, he doesn't deserve anything. Sabin & Shelley are lucky to be in TNA as is. They bring nothing to the table and constantly complain. Kaz has shown signs of good character in the past (specifically when he was a heel), while Sabin has never shown any, and Shelley only showed some in goofy backstage spoofs and segments. (BTW not trying to be a dick, just creating discussion/debate ) They bring nothing to the table? Dear god you didn't just say that..
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Post by tnafan4life on Jul 21, 2008 19:49:29 GMT -5
"You are not authorized to view this resource. You need to login."
Looks like they deleted it..
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Post by Jord on Jul 21, 2008 19:50:21 GMT -5
It still works for me, SG.
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Post by tnafan4life on Jul 21, 2008 19:53:41 GMT -5
Not for me..
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Post by Mr. McCluer on Jul 21, 2008 22:19:55 GMT -5
its a storyline Jason Powell of ProWrestling.net is reporting that Kaz’s release from TNA Wrestling is a storyline. Although TNA posted an article regarding Kaz’s TNA release, the article also says that he is scheduled to discuss his reason for leaving the company on the debut of Karen Angle's talk show. This fits Kaz’s storyline of being frustrated by his reputation for losing big matches in TNA recently. www.pwmania.com/newsarticle.php?page=218689258
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Post by tnafan4life on Jul 21, 2008 22:23:15 GMT -5
I love how people have to kill it for everyone. Also, just because they say it's a "work" doesn't mean it is. They do NOT know everything.
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Jul 21, 2008 22:32:42 GMT -5
If this is a work then thats desperation for attention/ratings
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 21, 2008 22:43:10 GMT -5
Right....except PUSH HIM TO THE MOON! I'm glad that Kaz is out. Outside of being a heel, he has no ability of getting over. He cant cut a babyface promo. I think he is getting the singles push that someone like Sabin or Shelley deserves. No, just no. Kaz gets over more than Sabin & Shelley do. While he is better as a heel, TNA has done a good approach with "always coming up short" as Kaz's thing at the moment. Sabin & Shelley in no way can get over. All they do is come out, point to their hands, do spot moves, point to their hands again, and job. Sabin had a ton of chances to get over, but he never developed any character. Shelley had the Paparazzi which was popular, but nobody really cared about his matches. And with all of his bitching, he doesn't deserve anything. Sabin & Shelley are lucky to be in TNA as is. They bring nothing to the table and constantly complain. Kaz has shown signs of good character in the past (specifically when he was a heel), while Sabin has never shown any, and Shelley only showed some in goofy backstage spoofs and segments. (BTW not trying to be a dick, just creating discussion/debate ) You must not be watching the same Impact as me. Kaz gets cheers, sure. But I havent heard a massive pop for him since he hit the Flux Capicitor at Ultimate X. Kaz comes up short......cuz well......he isnt as good as half their roster. Back when TNA originated, they rans this story with Chris Harris. That didnt pan out worth a crap. TNA does a very poor job of developing stories. Hell, the best angle they had was AJ/Angle.....now thats completely lost all steam and looks to have been invaved by Russo. I told you he would ruin that angle. Shelley's bitching is for good reason. He has been there almost since day 1. He has NEVER held a title. He was widely over with Nash. he is even more over with Sabin. They have a great gimmick, loved by fans, merchandise whores, and are clearly the top tag team in TNA, possibly across the US right now. And you are WAY off base with Sabin and his lack of character. Did you forget his little feud with Bob Backlund? Fantastic stuff. His spitting in the face of Jerry Lynn? He played it off very well. Kaz's claim to fame is stealing some rat from Goldust and dyeing weird colors or something. How weird.
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Post by the franchise on Jul 21, 2008 23:12:53 GMT -5
I love how people have to kill it for everyone. Also, just because they say it's a "work" doesn't mean it is. They do NOT know everything. I have never heard of a guy quitting and getting more tv time from it. The opposite tends to always happen.
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Post by Overnight Sensation on Jul 21, 2008 23:22:00 GMT -5
Alex Shelley debuted in 04, TNA started in 02....
that isnt almost since day 1..in pro wrestling, it doesnt matter how good you are, but if you cant get over..your arent shit...and Kaz gets over.
Tommy Dreamer was in ECW how long without holding a title..and he was over...he didnt bitch
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jul 22, 2008 0:40:38 GMT -5
Right....except PUSH HIM TO THE MOON! I'm glad that Kaz is out. Outside of being a heel, he has no ability of getting over. He cant cut a babyface promo. I think he is getting the singles push that someone like Sabin or Shelley deserves. No, just no. Kaz gets over more than Sabin & Shelley do. While he is better as a heel, TNA has done a good approach with "always coming up short" as Kaz's thing at the moment. Sabin & Shelley in no way can get over. All they do is come out, point to their hands, do spot moves, point to their hands again, and job. Sabin had a ton of chances to get over, but he never developed any character. Shelley had the Paparazzi which was popular, but nobody really cared about his matches. And with all of his bitching, he doesn't deserve anything. Sabin & Shelley are lucky to be in TNA as is. They bring nothing to the table and constantly complain. Kaz has shown signs of good character in the past (specifically when he was a heel), while Sabin has never shown any, and Shelley only showed some in goofy backstage spoofs and segments. (BTW not trying to be a dick, just creating discussion/debate ) The MCMG bring nothing to the table? Wow, just wow. I don't agree with Kaz not being able to get over as a babyface because while he is better as a heel he has shown he can cut a good babyface promo when he's allowed to be himself. Unfortunately TNA hasn't let him do that but saying Shelley and Sabin bring nothing to the table is ridiculous.
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Post by kurtangleisgod on Jul 22, 2008 0:56:56 GMT -5
If it isn't a work, I'm pretty much done watching TNA, as Kaz is one of the few things I enjoy
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Post by DTP. on Jul 22, 2008 1:29:01 GMT -5
I bet someone will attack and kill him off...sigh...
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 22, 2008 2:24:37 GMT -5
Alex Shelley debuted in 04, TNA started in 02.... that isnt almost since day 1..in pro wrestling, it doesnt matter how good you are, but if you cant get over..your arent ****...and Kaz gets over. Tommy Dreamer was in ECW how long without holding a title..and he was over...he didnt bitch No, but he sure as hell rubbed Heyman's nuts for the whole tenure.
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Post by Erdrtyu on Jul 22, 2008 6:06:40 GMT -5
NOOOOOOOO! God Damnit! NOOOOOOOO! He was my favorite thing in TNA, and I was waiting anxiously for the day he won TNA World Title Gold. I am so upset now. I hope to god that he got a deal from WWE and ends up somewhat of a success there. Oh why oh why Kaz, WHY?
Ok, now I read through the thread, and I see that It might be a storyline. Maybe I overreacted abit. Well, here's to it being only a storyline.
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Post by jjkotm on Jul 22, 2008 6:30:20 GMT -5
I stand by my statement that MCMG bring nothing to the table. Do they have talent? Yes. Can they actually create an interesting storyline/feud? No. Are their matches intriguing to the casual viewer? No. When people turn on the channel, they see these guys as two jobbers who look like morons pointing to their hands.
Showstopper said: "They have a great gimmick, loved by fans, merchandise whores, and are clearly the top tag team in TNA, possibly across the US right now."
Not at all. What is their gimmick? Being from Motor City? Pointing to their hands? I'm missing a gimmick with these two. They aren't loved by fans. They are loved by Indy fans. Their style doesn't get over on a show where casual fans see other spotty wrestlers. If you look at the ratings breakdowns, their matches lose viewers almost every time. Top tag team in TNA? No way. That would belong to LAX. And I would put Team 3D (although I don't like them) over MCMG as 3D, and certainly LAX bring more to the table for TNA.
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Jul 22, 2008 15:57:58 GMT -5
Like I said in the other post regarding this:
Yeah, it's either an angle or a work. I don't see why they'd play this off like this. I think it has something to do with his "losing streak".
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