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Post by Edge618 on Aug 19, 2008 5:43:06 GMT -5
Well, when he won the belt, everyone went on and on about how he was going to be a transitional champion, and how he only won to bring a title to Raw. And how long did most of us think his reign would last?? Most thought it wouldnt go past Great American Bash, and if it did, he'd for sure lose it at Summer Slam. But here we are. Punk's still champ. No way can he still be looked at as transitional IMO. Whats your's?
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Post by ppk101 on Aug 19, 2008 6:08:25 GMT -5
I think if he wins at Unforgiven most people will be able to take his reign seriously. I don't consider him a transitional champion but I can see why some might still feel that way.
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Post by BULLDOGS AND STORM 2009 on Aug 19, 2008 6:10:23 GMT -5
i can see punk walking out of unforgiven champ
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Post by Erdrtyu on Aug 19, 2008 6:42:06 GMT -5
Don't you technically have to lose it in, like, two weeks to be a transitional champ? Anyway, no, he has held it long enough that he can't be considered transitional.
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Post by shenmue on Aug 19, 2008 6:50:13 GMT -5
Anyway, no, he has held it long enough that he can't be considered transitional.
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Post by iyfwkidzc on Aug 19, 2008 6:52:06 GMT -5
He's the Rock of 08.
Gets the belt in June, loses it to a powerhouse guy at Summerslam. Nevermind. He'll probably lose it.
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Post by ppk101 on Aug 19, 2008 7:18:40 GMT -5
He's the Rock of 08. Gets the belt in June, loses it to a powerhouse guy at Summerslam. Probably. ...except he won at Summerslam.
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Post by iyfwkidzc on Aug 19, 2008 7:20:03 GMT -5
He's the Rock of 08. Gets the belt in June, loses it to a powerhouse guy at Summerslam. Probably. ...except he won at Summerslam. Oh. Crap. Still in Early August for some reason.
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Post by ppk101 on Aug 19, 2008 7:22:24 GMT -5
...except he won at Summerslam. Oh. Crap. Still in Early August for some reason. It's all good bro.
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Post by Suckasays on Aug 19, 2008 7:39:32 GMT -5
I hope Punk walks out of Unforgiven with the title. It would be really good for him. It reminds me of when Angle walked into the 6 man Hell in a Cell. Nobody took him seriously as a world champion until he won that match. If he does walk away with the title, I don't see him standing at the end of the match. Maybe someone will be beating the hell out of him but they just can't pin him or something. Then the time limit expires.
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Post by BulletV1 on Aug 19, 2008 8:00:30 GMT -5
Well no considering what a transitional champion is. Which in order to fall into that category you have to drop the belt in about a month which Punk has had it for about two months now.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Aug 19, 2008 9:02:45 GMT -5
A transitional champion would've lost by now.
Besides, for as much as WWE tosses the term around, you don't see transitional champions all that much anymore. Not since multi-person matches (especially of the single-fall variety)have become more and more popular.
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Post by No Brokeback on Aug 19, 2008 9:55:28 GMT -5
He's definately the transitional champion. The focus isn't on him at all, when he becomes the 'main' story of Raw, it'll be different, but he's really uncared for.
The focus on Raw right now is Cena/Batista/Kane, Punk is just randomly fighting to show he is worthy..which is pretty pathetic, that's more of an I.C title storyline (in my opinion)
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Post by aceswild74 on Aug 19, 2008 10:33:08 GMT -5
Last night was the first time you could hear the crowd go totally nuts for him...and he was in his home town..what does that tell you. I love how most of the people who put Cena down for his move set are the same people who praise Punk for his...but there is Punk every match doing the same moves over and over..there is a reason that ALL wrestlers do this...it's scripted...Punk is a transitional champ and the most boring champ we have had in a very long time...
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Post by No Brokeback on Aug 19, 2008 10:40:04 GMT -5
People who watch WWE don't understand why move-sets are so limited. If people had a vast amount of moves...many other wrestlers would use the same ones all the time and it would get boring. They have to trim moves off like crazy so matches don't feel like they're repeating themselves over and over again match after match.
So that's one thing you or anyone shouldn't complain about. moves stay the same because it fits their gimmick and personality.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Aug 19, 2008 10:40:47 GMT -5
Yes he is a Transitional Champion. Except for last night in his HOME TOWN, the crowd never pops for him, and this was the first time in like 6 weeks that he's actually been on RAW after 9:45pm.
Most nights, CM Punk gets no crowd reaction, and he's never even on the 2nd hour of the program, much less ever in the MAIN EVENT as the Champion SHOULD BE.
He's going to have to DOMINATE that Championship Scramble in order to be taken seriously. If he gets his ass kicked the entire time and then slips in with a GTS and a pin with 5 secs to go....it's going to look like he barley squeaked by again.
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Post by jericholic226 on Aug 19, 2008 11:40:56 GMT -5
no hes held it for 2months and i think hell end up being a 2 time champ at unforgiven
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Post by addam on Aug 19, 2008 11:49:17 GMT -5
i think that "transitional champ" is an unnecessarily dirty work for wrestling, and it's one that's used too often for people that it doesn't really apply to. the way i look at it to be a true transitional champ the belt would go from person A to person B, just so person C could get it because person A can't lose the title to person C for whatever reason, so that makes person B just a place holder in the scheme of things. if you hold the title for more than a few weeks & have stories & feuds going on with your title then you're not a transitional champ.
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Post by duan on Aug 19, 2008 12:09:21 GMT -5
Yes he is a Transitional Champion. Except for last night in his HOME TOWN, the crowd never pops for him, and this was the first time in like 6 weeks that he's actually been on RAW after 9:45pm. Most nights, CM Punk gets no crowd reaction, and he's never even on the 2nd hour of the program, much less ever in the MAIN EVENT as the Champion SHOULD BE. He's going to have to DOMINATE that Championship Scramble in order to be taken seriously. If he gets his ass kicked the entire time and then slips in with a GTS and a pin with 5 secs to go....it's going to look like he barley squeaked by again. so any champion who doesn't appear after EXACTLY 9:45 PM is DEFINITELY a transitional champion? As for me, Punk is definitely not a transitional champion, as he has had an almost 3 month reign. And when he wins at Unforgiven, he can job to Jericho at No Mercy.
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Post by K5 on Aug 19, 2008 12:21:35 GMT -5
i don't look at him as transitional, i look at his current title run more like randy orton's.
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