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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jan 30, 2008 15:05:02 GMT -5
Isn't it a little odd for a large black woman, who's billed from Japan, to have a Muslim woman as a manager?
I mean, I'm not saying it's impossible, but we wrestling fans are simple folk who like things to make sense without having to think too hard.
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Jan 30, 2008 15:11:22 GMT -5
Isn't it a little odd for a large black woman, who's billed from Japan, to have a Muslim woman as a manager? I mean, I'm not saying it's impossible, but we wrestling fans are simple folk who like things to make sense without having to think too hard. This is just a historical WTF moment that wrestling has always brought us. Let's look at other famous pairings that made no sense 1.) Estrada and Umaga in WWE... how does a Cuban end up managing a Samoan... wrong side of the globe. 2.) Dungeon of Doom and Jimmy Hart... yeah, Jimmy is so creepy and evil.  3.) Lou Albano and the Headshrinkers- Only thing I can think of is Lou was a Captain, maybe he found them on an island somewhere. |
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Post by The 'Rated R Superstar' Edge on Jan 30, 2008 15:14:51 GMT -5
 the knockout division  |
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Post by JDSFullmetal on Jan 30, 2008 15:23:40 GMT -5
the knockout division Why its the only thing TNA has better then wwe right now |
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Post by techn9ne77 on Jan 30, 2008 22:17:53 GMT -5
Exactly. Although, you're the last person that should be jumping down some one's throat for complaining.. I dont understand what you people want. They give us great shows, all their workers can actually PUT ON A GOOD MATCH, and not get booed out of the building like oh I dont know, John Cena? TNA has horrible booking, Ok. We get it. Move on. Stop crying because its not going to change a damn thing. Just sit back and enjoy it while its around, because if it ever goes under, you will be the first to say "Oh TNA was soo awesome, Blah blah blah" Idiots.. This has got to be the most ridiculous post I've read in quite a while. What, are you 12 years old or something? Jeez, some of you TNA fanboys are doing a very crappy job of making sense against these so-called anti-TNA guys. At least try to make some points and use some examples. Let me clue you on to something: saying "so what, the shows suck... don't watch it" is not a valid argument. Saying "TNA does anything better than WWE because of..." also really isn't a very valid argument since WWE is so far ahead of TNA in every way shape possible at the moment. Therefore, you basically set yourself up to lose the argument. However, a person can say the TNA women's division is better than the WWE's due to ... and would/could probably make some very good points to back it up. For someone to honestly say that TNA's booking is BETTER than WWE's booking is simply absurd. What is TNA booking better than the WWE aside from the women's division? Both companies have major flaws right now. The difference is that WWE is still making stars. MVP and Santino Marella are more over in WWE (in months) than TNA has gotten people over that have been with them since the very beginning. How can that be good booking? When you haven't made your own talent in 5 years time. Another thing, the stuff I see in WWE I expect to see. TNA went from one of their best years (2006) where everything seemed to be clicking on all cylinders to what has to be considered their worst (2007). "Just sit back and enjoy it while its around, because if it ever goes under, you will be the first to say "Oh TNA was soo awesome, Blah blah blah"" Yeah right, just like people are going around talking about how great WCW was, right? Please. If TNA goes under, people are going pick apart what made them go under just like people did WCW. They're gonna talk about how they pretty much stopped focusing on the X-Division, how they made one of their top stars (AJ Styles) into a joke, how they mismanaged money by throwing it at dead weight and not getting any return (Test, Pacman Jones, Rikishi), etc. That's what people will be talking about. How a company with all this great talent still went out of business because they tried to bring in the casual fan by ignoring what made them and started doing "sports entertainment". Bottom-line, if you consider yourself a TNA fan and you sit around and pretend like everything is all fine and dandy when it obviously isn't, then you need to blame your own dumb ass selves if and when TNA goes under. A REAL TNA fan will be irate because they know the company is capable of so much more instead of being a dumb sheep and accepting whatever is thrown on their TV screens. Just like REAL TNA fans were praising them consistently throughout 2004-2006 when they were a true alternative and they were doing the complete opposite of WWE by showcasing wrestling over skits. At least some WCW fans were trying to call them out on all the crap they were doing. Some of these diehard TNA marks just pretend the crap doesn't exist. |
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Post by alessicustoms2 on Jan 30, 2008 22:57:18 GMT -5
Exactly. Although, you're the last person that should be jumping down some one's throat for complaining.. I dont understand what you people want. They give us great shows, all their workers can actually PUT ON A GOOD MATCH, and not get booed out of the building like oh I dont know, John Cena? TNA has horrible booking, Ok. We get it. Move on. Stop crying because its not going to change a damn thing. Just sit back and enjoy it while its around, because if it ever goes under, you will be the first to say "Oh TNA was soo awesome, Blah blah blah" Idiots.. This has got to be the most ridiculous post I've read in quite a while. What, are you 12 years old or something? Jeez, some of you TNA fanboys are doing a very crappy job of making sense against these so-called anti-TNA guys. At least try to make some points and use some examples. Let me clue you on to something: saying "so what, the shows suck... don't watch it" is not a valid argument. Saying "TNA does anything better than WWE because of..." also really isn't a very valid argument since WWE is so far ahead of TNA in every way shape possible. Therefore, you basically set yourself up to lose the argument. However, a person can say TNA women's division is better than the WWE due to ... and would/could probably make some very good points to back it up. For someone to honestly say that TNA's booking is BETTER than WWE's booking is simply absurd. What is TNA booking better than the WWE aside from the women's division? Both companies have major flaws right now. The difference is that WWE is still making stars. MVP and Santino Marella are more over in WWE (in months) than TNA has gotten people over that have been with them since the very beginning. How can that be good booking? When you haven't made your own talent in 5 years time. Another thing, the stuff I see in WWE I expect to see. TNA went from one of their best years (2006) where everything seemed to be clicking on all cylinders to what has to be considered their worst (2007). "Just sit back and enjoy it while its around, because if it ever goes under, you will be the first to say "Oh TNA was soo awesome, Blah blah blah"" Yeah right, just like people are going around talking about how great WCW was, right? Please. If TNA goes under, people are going pick apart what made them go under just like people did WCW. They're gonna talk about how they pretty much stopped focusing on the X-Division, how they made one of their top stars (AJ Styles) into a joke, how they mismanaged money by throwing it at dead weight and not getting any return (Test, Pacman Jones, Rikishi), etc. That's what people will be talking about. How a company with all this great talent still went out of business because they tried to bring in the casual fan by ignoring what made them and started doing "sports entertainment". Bottom-line, if you consider yourself a TNA fan and you sit around and pretend like everything is all fine and dandy when it obviously isn't, then you need to blame your own dumb ass selves if and when TNA goes under. A REAL TNA fan will be irate because they know the company is capable of so much more instead of being a dumb sheep and accepting whatever is thrown on their TV screens. Just like REAL TNA fans were praising them consistently throughout 2004-2006 when they were a true alternative and they were doing the complete opposite of WWE by showcasing wrestling over skits. At least some WCW fans were trying to call them out on all the crap they were doing. Some of these diehard TNA marks just pretend the crap doesn't exist. I've been true TNA Fan since the beginning and yes I see they have changed their quality in matches and over all product but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy it, so TNA has become less wrestling and more skits ,thats not completely true they have put on some friggen hell of a performance to get where they are with many of the matches they put on that some of you complain about like Sting Vs. Angle for The TNA Title. Now I find Ring Of Honor's wrestling quality way better than TNA, but thats another story having to do for the stars which help build that company Like Colt Cobanna, Homicide, Samoa Joe,Cm Punk,and other stars who are in TNA & WWE Now & the great work of the booking team. The reason some TNA Fans such as myself think TNA has far better booking than the WWE is the way Vince has these ridiculous angles like a Limo accident & Katie Vick in The Past , & Recently the start of a Incest angle,besides that each week theres people who deserve pushes and don't get them do to Tripple HHH or do to WWE's horrible booking Team why hasn't Elijiah Burke been apart of any title matches why has Ric Flair gone over someone like M.V.P. Shouldn't M.V.P. be going over Flair to boost his career and I can go on about other horribly book angles & pushes but my rants over. |
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Post by wrestlingvader1 on Jan 31, 2008 0:20:15 GMT -5
Im sick of people like u Tech talking about TNA doesn't create stars what about guys like BlackMachismo,SharkBoy, Rellik, and dont u dare forget about the most chaismatic xdivision champ of all time Johnny Devine, And u talk about TEST I hated they released him they could of drew money with him vs guys like NASH, Morgan, Judas Mesias etc, I didn't agree with Pacman either but end of day the it was worth it , they was talked about on ESPN ES F'N PN when was the last time WWE was on ESPN for postive coverage Oh 1998, On to RIKISHI the best somoan to lace up a pair boots ,Umaga and JOE wish they had what it takes win the crowd over his Stinkface is still most popular move still to this day,And how is AJ a JOKE he's meant to be funny he's getting a huge push ,he's Tag team champion gets ton of TV time and he's getting to hanging around Christain and KURT he's got two former WWE superstars leading him into new direction doesn't get any better than that ,On to JOE the road to the title is booked very well he's going to suprise everybody when finally wins it at Bound For Glory 08 It just isnt his time right now it's Tomko's ,when he drop the tag titles to VKM THEY DESERVE IT overall TNA booking is ok Black Reign is way better than GOLDDDUST Curryman is great, Abyss storyline is going somewhere I can tell, RUSSO gave everybody in the X divsion characters Petey ,Sonjay etc He's just need give Elix Skipper one like an Black R'B singer something like JillianHall he's got that light voice that would be great ,So how can TECH 69 whatever your name is say TNA IS TERRIBLE 1.2 and rising, pretty soon more guys in the WWE are going want to come over to the new Kings of Wrestling[ no pun intended] Look we got BookerT, thats going to be huge when he wins the title, ratings are going go up again Harris, Truth,and Senshi are going to wish they would of stayed Bottom-line TNA is fine, Me and Master Lewpac and countless other TNA die hards like it right now So TECH get your DX Undertaker Ken Kenndey JOHN 3 MOVES OF DOOM CENA ASS up out of here!!! [ for some strange reason i got to go vomit]
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Post by techn9ne77 on Jan 31, 2008 1:06:37 GMT -5
Now & the great work of the booking team. The reason some TNA Fans such as myself think TNA has far better booking than the WWE is the way Vince has these ridiculous angles like a Limo accident & Katie Vick in The Past , & Recently the start of a Incest angle,besides that each week theres people who deserve pushes and don't get them do to Tripple HHH or do to WWE's horrible booking Team why hasn't Elijiah Burke been apart of any title matches why has Ric Flair gone over someone like M.V.P. Shouldn't M.V.P. be going over Flair to boost his career and I can go on about other horribly book angles & pushes but my rants over. Yeah WWE has had plenty of terrible angles, but so has TNA. Let's not pretend that TNA has NOT done ridiculous gimmicks in the past and present also. Allow me to copy and paste this bit of info from wikipedia: "However, the Shane twins would appear in TNA, they joined in August of 2002 under the ring names as Richard "Dick" Johnson (Mike) and Rod Johnson (Todd), known collectively as The Johnsons. They wore latex bodysuits, which were intended to make them resemble a pair of large penises." Or maybe the Dupp Cup, the many midget matches we had to sit through over the years, Russo's S.E.X. faction, the whole Pacman fiasco, the 'Eric Young believes in Santa' skits, the Angle Christmas party skits, and numerous others. So for someone to sit there and to act like TNA hasn't had their share of crappy gimmicks, gimmick matches (soooo many of these), and bad sports entertainment is just weird to me. The difference is TNA's bad sports entertainment comes off like a bush league version of WWE's sports entertainment. Now if you were sitting here and saying all of this back in 2005 and 2006, yeah maybe I would agree with you. But as of right now, pointing at TNA and WWE, then saying TNA's booking is better is pretty funny. Particularly since TNA is using one of WWE's former writers, who is regurgitating some of his old story lines anyhow. TNA's booking right at this moment is nothing more than an updated version of Attitude-era ideas. I would love for someone to tell me one, just one, booking idea that is so great in TNA right now (aside from the very well-booked Kim/Kong feud. Name one feud right now that makes TNA's booking so much better than WWE's booking. The "people who deserve pushes..." line was shockingly hypocritical. You could have easily been talking about people that TNA fans have been clamoring for years to get pushed like Daniels, AMW, Styles, Joe, Low-Ki, etc. What about Monty Brown? He was pretty over back before he left, but was instead relegated to playing second fiddle to the Kings of Wrestling, X-Pac, Raven, the James Gang, an unmotivated Jeff Hardy, etc. Those guys deserved to get pushed likewise. Therefore, while you're talking about Burke and MVP, it sure doesn't look like TNA is pushing their own talent all that much either. At least Vince does push the hell outta his own creations. TNA won't even do that. Oh and wrestlingvader1, spot-on parody of a TNA mark. Pretty brilliant I must say. |
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jan 31, 2008 6:51:00 GMT -5
Now & the great work of the booking team. The reason some TNA Fans such as myself think TNA has far better booking than the WWE is the way Vince has these ridiculous angles like a Limo accident & Katie Vick in The Past , & Recently the start of a Incest angle,besides that each week theres people who deserve pushes and don't get them do to Tripple HHH or do to WWE's horrible booking Team why hasn't Elijiah Burke been apart of any title matches why has Ric Flair gone over someone like M.V.P. Shouldn't M.V.P. be going over Flair to boost his career and I can go on about other horribly book angles & pushes but my rants over. Yeah WWE has had plenty of terrible angles, but so has TNA. Let's not pretend that TNA has NOT done ridiculous gimmicks in the past and present also. Allow me to copy and paste this bit of info from wikipedia: "However, the Shane twins would appear in TNA, they joined in August of 2002 under the ring names as Richard "Dick" Johnson (Mike) and Rod Johnson (Todd), known collectively as The Johnsons. They wore latex bodysuits, which were intended to make them resemble a pair of large penises." Or maybe the Dupp Cup, the many midget matches we had to sit through over the years, Russo's S.E.X. faction, the whole Pacman fiasco, the 'Eric Young believes in Santa' skits, the Angle Christmas party skits, and numerous others. So for someone to sit there and to act like TNA hasn't had their share of crappy gimmicks, gimmick matches (soooo many of these), and bad sports entertainment is just weird to me. The difference is TNA's bad sports entertainment comes off like a bush league version of WWE's sports entertainment. Now if you were sitting here and saying all of this back in 2005 and 2006, yeah maybe I would agree with you. But as of right now, pointing at TNA and WWE, then saying TNA's booking is better is pretty funny. Particularly since TNA is using one of WWE's former writers, who is regurgitating some of his old story lines anyhow. TNA's booking right at this moment is nothing more than an updated version of Attitude-era ideas. I would love for someone to tell me one, just one, booking idea that is so great in TNA right now (aside from the very well-booked Kim/Kong feud. Name one feud right now that makes TNA's booking so much better than WWE's booking. The "people who deserve pushes..." line was shockingly hypocritical. You could have easily been talking about people that TNA fans have been clamoring for years to get pushed like Daniels, AMW, Styles, Joe, Low-Ki, etc. What about Monty Brown? He was pretty over back before he left, but was instead relegated to playing second fiddle to the Kings of Wrestling, X-Pac, Raven, the James Gang, an unmotivated Jeff Hardy, etc. Those guys deserved to get pushed likewise. Therefore, while you're talking about Burke and MVP, it sure doesn't look like TNA is pushing their own talent all that much either. At least Vince does push the hell outta his own creations. TNA won't even do that. Oh and wrestlingvader1, spot-on parody of a TNA mark. Pretty brilliant I must say. ...what's wrong with Eric Young believing in Santa Claus? |
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Post by deskjet on Jan 31, 2008 8:05:20 GMT -5
nothing insulted my inteligence more than Hornswaggle painting a hole in the wall and Carlito pretending like he went thrugh it. That was in the WWE right?
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Post by Too Sweet on Jan 31, 2008 8:14:29 GMT -5
Yeah, you could see the Brick gap outline too lmao
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Post by techn9ne77 on Jan 31, 2008 18:16:03 GMT -5
nothing insulted my inteligence more than Hornswaggle painting a hole in the wall and Carlito pretending like he went thrugh it. That was in the WWE right? Yeah sure pal, well nothing insults my intelligence more than two guys walking around pretending to be penises. I find that more insulting than a silly skit with a midget running through a wall that was meant to be slapstick. I guess guys dressing like penises is fine with you, hey man, whatever floats your boat. Actually taking one of the best, most talented workers in the business today (AJ Styles) and turning him into a mid-card comedy act is far more offensive than that also. And oh yeah Mr. Russo, all of that happened in TNA. You should expect Hornswoggle (Hornswaggle?) to be booked around silly stuff, he's a freakin' comedy act nothing more. Oh wait a minute... so is AJ now. I would say Nash and Joe about to knock each other's heads off one week and then the very next week Nash somehow becoming Joe's mentor would be a tad insulting also. Or booking Abyss with a near identical back story to Kane would be a bit insulting also. I'm just waiting for them to come up with an angle with Eric Young going out on a date with Amazing Kong and all the zaniness that's bound to follow. However and more importantly, WWE can afford to do dumb sh*t, they already have their audience, TNA is still trying to find theirs. |
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Post by ovw4life on Feb 1, 2008 22:42:29 GMT -5
I don't know who she is...
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