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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Sept 2, 2008 12:01:37 GMT -5
Ok, I know this argument has often happened, but its gonna happen again damnit!
Ok, imagine for a moment that Wembley Arena was in the USA...
It would be one of the top venues for WWE PPV's. 90'000 seats for a football match, so another 4000 (Not sure about that, I'm just guessing). This would break the WWE record for PPV attendance, 93'000 or not at WM3 (There is a retractable roof) . If it was in a city that was an equivelent to London then it would be in one of the most famous cities in the world, and people from all over would go to see it.
Now let's remember that it is in the UK. Here are the pro's and cons of a PPV in the UK:
Pros - We haven't had a proper PPV in 15 years so the atmosphere would be electric due to it being such a rare occasion.
- Due to it being such a rare occasion, tickets would sell out almost instantly, a major press coup for the WWE.
- The UK is a tried and tested market with the overseas tours.
- If it was WM, you not only would get people from the UK, America and Canada but the whole of Europe also, as many European markets such as Spain are surprisingly hot right now. This would be another amjor press coup for the WWE.
Cons- Time difference. WM would be at roughly 10AM in the USA if held at regular time in the UK. A major problem indeed.
However... about a year ago a NFL game featuring the Miami Dolphins and some other randomers happened at Wembley. This would have been shown in the USA at a similar time and was a fantastic public sucess for the NFL, giving it major exposure in international markets. Why can't a PPV be like this?
Please don't fill this thread with "I wAnT tEh PpV iN tEh ****SvIlLe CoS wE aInT hAd No PpV iN tEh 2 WeEkS."
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Post by The Mac on Sept 2, 2008 12:02:47 GMT -5
hell yer
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Post by ericbischoff on Sept 2, 2008 12:14:13 GMT -5
I would say yeah, I didn't see any problem with that.
but some thing that people maybe will argument about:-
Time Zone: WWE Can start PPv in UK around 7pm, which that will mean 1pm in USA. Which wasn't huge problem, really.
Tour WWE do tour in UK twice per year now (April and October/November). They says UK was HUGE sucessful, and the tickets was sold out more quickly, even it's RAW or SmackDown show. So I can't see any problem with PPV, really.
To USA/Canada people, you need to realise you get LOTS of WWE PPV down to USA/Canada. UK people would have to stayed up until 1am for PPV and 2am for LIVE RAW. So I think that would be bit fair for USA and UK, UK get once PPV per year, so USA can watch PPV at early of afternoon, instead night time.
Stage The stage maybe will be difficult to bring down to UK to doing an PPV, but stage wasn't main thing, really. so WWE can use just basic stage.
This is three thing maybe would caused problem for WWE.
So, overall, I didn't see any problem, really. So why not?!
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Post by mattclassic on Sept 2, 2008 12:18:15 GMT -5
I honestly can't see why they wouldn't but i don't think they will. At least not for a few years anyway.
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Post by s☠e on Sept 2, 2008 12:19:25 GMT -5
They should definately do one. It would sell out aswell. I'd be sooooo there EDIT: And the Europe thing is a great point. It would attract thousands from Europe indeed.
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Post by v/\v on Sept 2, 2008 12:23:25 GMT -5
Yep.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Sept 2, 2008 12:28:25 GMT -5
I can maybe see WM29 being in London, I don't know why, I just have a feeling about it.
I would so try and get there, I mean I've always been promised if WM ever came to the UK, that I would hopefully get to it, well, if I could get tickets, but everyone in my family would try
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Post by carly1988 on Sept 2, 2008 12:33:48 GMT -5
They wont hold one that will air or be taped delayed in the states for simply they dont want to lose money on buy rates. UK might get a PPV but it would be live for them in the afternoon and a regular start time for us (i think thats how the timezones go).....
Also the only "flaw" that I see from the original posters post...and someone correct me if Im wrong, but isnt Wembley an outdoor arena? Therefore it wouldnt break the record as WWEs event was a "world indoor attendance record" even though many other wrestling shows in the world have far surpassed that record.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Sept 2, 2008 12:38:28 GMT -5
They wont hold one that will air or be taped delayed in the states for simply they dont want to lose money on buy rates. UK might get a PPV but it would be live for them in the afternoon and a regular start time for us (i think thats how the timezones go)..... Also the only "flaw" that I see from the original posters post...and someone correct me if Im wrong, but isnt Wembley an outdoor arena? Therefore it wouldnt break the record as WWEs event was a "world indoor attendance record" even though many other wrestling shows in the world have far surpassed that record. UK are 4 hours ahead of NY It would break WWE's attendance record though.
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Post by Lemon-Aid on Sept 2, 2008 12:40:16 GMT -5
They wont hold one that will air or be taped delayed in the states for simply they dont want to lose money on buy rates. UK might get a PPV but it would be live for them in the afternoon and a regular start time for us (i think thats how the timezones go)..... Also the only "flaw" that I see from the original posters post...and someone correct me if Im wrong, but isnt Wembley an outdoor arena? Therefore it wouldnt break the record as WWEs event was a "world indoor attendance record" even though many other wrestling shows in the world have far surpassed that record. Well Wembley has a closing roof type thing so they could make it indoor if they wanted.
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Post by flying-shorty on Sept 2, 2008 12:40:47 GMT -5
Id love it but I dont think its likely, not one of the big ones anyway! The wwe wud make way more money on US PPV buyrates if its at a sensible time in America. If its at 1am in American not sure how well it wud do?? American will always (and rightly so) be their priority.
Also im not fully sure if they wud fill Wembley, I kno they can fill big arenas in the wwe...but not sure if people would travel from all over like with football! Maybe the Millenium Stadium? Because it has a roof etc... If one of the big 4 PPV's came to the UK then I would travel to see it tho!
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Sept 2, 2008 12:42:17 GMT -5
I promise you it would fill Wembley, and that's a good point about the retractable roof.
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Post by John™ on Sept 2, 2008 12:45:31 GMT -5
YES! we want a ppv ticckets would sell really fast
p.s. vettel`s sig is the best!
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Post by carly1988 on Sept 2, 2008 12:48:01 GMT -5
well the PPV would def have to be earlier in the day, they wont lose the buyrates of the states just to give a PPV to UKers. Honestly I dont see wrestlemania coming to UK anytime soon and I would believe they would want their "flag ship" PPV to hold the record for Largest Indoor attendance so I dont think they would put anymore then 80 thousand in there....Doesnt matter either way really because Summer Slam 92 has the real record for attendance...Im still certain that the WM3 number was false and made up. Its only claimed by WWE and Silverdome and now that WWE is a public company they would have to announce real attendance numbers for records and they have yet to beat the record even though Wrestling is MUCH more popular then it was 20 years ago
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Sept 2, 2008 12:52:54 GMT -5
Why would the buyrates go down? Liitle kids wouldn't have to stay up late, people could go out in the night instead...
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Post by Graze on Sept 2, 2008 13:05:04 GMT -5
I don't see any reason for the UK not to get a PPV. They could do it like UFC does. You have the live feed on in the afternoon (in the states) and then you can have the repeat on at 8pm EST in the normal PPV time slot.
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Post by carly1988 on Sept 2, 2008 13:05:49 GMT -5
wait I think i got the timezones F'd up....It would have to be later in the evening for UK so it would be an 8pm PPV for US people. Simply the main money buy rate for their PPVs come from the states. If it was pre-recorded (like Summerslam 92) or aired at 8pm UK time (4pm here) they would lose US buyers because pre recorded fans would read spoilers instead of watching it. PPVs are better with a "live" feel. Of course if it aired here at 4pm many people are still at work or school or whatever and would miss it.
Dont get me wrong Im all for PPVs all over the world. I would love to see one in Japan but honestly just from a financial stand point (which is all that matters to WWE) it would have to work for US fans/customers first, even if held over seas
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Post by Irish Ghost on Sept 2, 2008 13:13:35 GMT -5
Id be up for it
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Post by The L.F.C Fan on Sept 2, 2008 13:15:13 GMT -5
DEFINETLY. I probs wouldnt be able to go but still it'd be cool for us UK'ers
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Sept 2, 2008 13:34:19 GMT -5
wait I think i got the timezones F'd up....It would have to be later in the evening for UK so it would be an 8pm PPV for US people. Simply the main money buy rate for their PPVs come from the states. If it was pre-recorded (like Summerslam 92) or aired at 8pm UK time (4pm here) they would lose US buyers because pre recorded fans would read spoilers instead of watching it. PPVs are better with a "live" feel. Of course if it aired here at 4pm many people are still at work or school or whatever and would miss it. Dont get me wrong Im all for PPVs all over the world. I would love to see one in Japan but honestly just from a financial stand point (which is all that matters to WWE) it would have to work for US fans/customers first, even if held over seas Why would they be at work or school on a sunday?
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