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Post by deskjet on Feb 1, 2008 11:51:02 GMT -5
techn9ne77 wrote:
""Why would I want TNA to be on par with WWE? See, that's what some of you marks fail to realize. TNA has a looonnng way to go to be even remotely close to being on the same planet, hell solar system, with WWE. I don't want TNA to be on par with WWE, I just want them to be a good alternative. WWE does what they do better than anybody else, that's sports entertainment. In order for someone to be a true competitor/alternative, they have to do something that we don't see in WWE. At one time, TNA was doing that. You won't ideas, sure? I don't know how long you've been a TNA fan, but you remember that little revolutionary thing that was exclusive to them called the X-Division. Maybe they could try to go back to focusing on that. Oh maybe, they could start having their great roster actually put on longer matches on Impact. Say all you want about TNA's wrestling in the past, but even that has taken a fall due to all the skits. TNA maybe has 6 to 7 minute matches now with commercials shown all throughout. Here's another idea: maybe have AJ become his own man, show that he's not a big doofus, and have him set up Angle and Christian. He could say he was playing them off each other all along and pretending to be the dumb lackey to fool them into a false sense of security. Then they can bounce off a few match ideas out of that. Your idea of a push must be completely different from mine. I bet you thought Shane Helms was getting a push as the Hurricane. Just because someone's on TV alot doesn't mean it's a push and/or they're being used right. So you think AJ is being used right? Answer that question for me and your reply will let me know exactly where you stand. In fact, you come off more like a WWE mark than anything. You say if "all you wanna see is wrestling tune in thursday nights..." wait a minute, didn't TNA used to say "WE ARE WRESTLING". See, the last word: WRESTLING. That's why I started watching TNA. Maybe you started watching when Kurt Angle first arrived or something, I don't know. Or when they started doing all the backstage skits, but I started watching back during the weekly PPVs when they had WRESTLING. And lots of it. And it was good too.
"Again if you all want to see "wrestling" tune in thursday nights at 1am to espn classics for UWF...paul ordorff, B brian balir, Dr death, and watch just how great an all wrestling show really isnt"
And for the 1st time, if you want to see skits and gimmicks, you might as well be watching Raw or Smackdown b/c you can get all that over there and it'll probably be done better anyway.
"And for the record, I'm no mark. I just prefer TNA over WWE. I've never ever reeally preferedd WWE anyway, that's just me. But you can go back through numerous threads and see where I've ripped this company a new butthole everytime they had bad shows, contrastly I've praised WWE, so know our facts."
Ok, then what's wrong with other people offering their criticisms and ideas? Yeah, he said something harsh about them needing to go out of business, but if you actually care about the company then you might say something like that. Of course, he probably doesn't LITERALLY want them to go out of business, he's more than likely just frustrated like alot of TNA fans. He offered some good in there too, it's not like he came and just said all negative things. He said what he did once like from TNA and what he doesn't like now. What's wrong with that? ""
deskjet wote:
So what exactly do you want in the X divsion. Just those guys puting on thoe types of matches? I think TNA does that now. The x divsion has a place but it shouldnt be the whole show. TNA integrates the divsion with other wrestlers but also showcases that talent in isolated matches from time to time? So do you just want an x divsion show? Then people will get sick of that. If it's high flying you want, you get that in matches involving MCMG, Aj, Petey, Kaz. So again, what are people bitching about? Do you think that not every one wants to see Dutt vs skipper or Aj vs Daniels every week. Hell yes they put on great matches but TNA is not just the X divsion, they need to be varied to appeal to the masses...taht's just the context in which they are. They were ok before when they werent so mainstream, to showcase the X divsion more, but this comapny is trying to appeal to a lrger more diverse audince...much like WWE does...can you blame them for trying. Hypothetically speaking lets say TNA lands Batista or Undertaker, but there whole show is about the X divsion...what are ya gonna do then...ummmmmm sorry Taker, you dont fit our style so we cant hire ya. there's not a wrestling promotion today indy or otherwise that doesnt have variety in their show..so your arguments for focusing on the x divsion is rather ignorant.
And this crap with long matches is just a lame excuse...longer matches is nnot gonna make a show better. When the matches warrant longevity, like a PPV world title match then sure...but when you have alimited amount of time to get your product out there, I dont see how having longer matches benefits the compay or the ratings. Keep in mind WWE has 3 shows to expand their storylines over. It's the quality of the match not the quantity that counts...I can sit and watch randy orton choke hold and kick kennedy for @ hours strtaight or watch Joe vs angle in a half how iron man match...which do you think is gonna keep viewers interested, of course, not considering what's at stake title wise.
AJ become his on man? I've been more entertained but AJ in his current role then anbody in a long long time. It works...so why mess with it? Just becasue he cahnged his gimmick and people cant understand character development and storyline telling. He's one of that funniest mic men on tv and that takes absoutely nothing away from his stellar ability in the ring. To me, they are two separate entitties...If aJ ws a bumbling idiot in every match, then they would be doing him a disservice, but he's not..end of debate there.
Now some personal points. A WWE matk, I am not...my post ratio TNA:WWE can attest to that. And for the record...do you remember TNA's first world champion when they were with NWA...Ken Shamrock, Gauntlet for the Gold? Do you rember FSN, the flying elvises, Amaazing Red, CM Punk vs Raven? Yeah, I do, I'm been here since the beginning. I cant say i like the cahracters more now then back then, mostly becasue I know who they are, but I do understand what TNA is trying to do. You need to lok at it from their perspectiv...can we draw in the casual fan? will more people watch our wrestling if we have Angle, Booker, etc or will they tune in when they see names like Eric Young Sharkboy, Petey williams...people need to be interested in the product before they tune in..and on every level, TNA is trying to harness that interest by being a show that offeres a little of everything for everyone...x divsion, women, Big names, comedy, tna:X, parody, international flavor, etc. That's how you build a compay to appease the masses-that wants to reach the global market. Guess what TNA is moving...their not in Nashville anymore TOTO!!! Now I ask you...What's wrong with that?
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Post by Iron Man on Feb 1, 2008 11:59:18 GMT -5
techn9ne77 wrote: ""Why would I want TNA to be on par with WWE? See, that's what some of you marks fail to realize. TNA has a looonnng way to go to be even remotely close to being on the same planet, hell solar system, with WWE. I don't want TNA to be on par with WWE, I just want them to be a good alternative. WWE does what they do better than anybody else, that's sports entertainment. In order for someone to be a true competitor/alternative, they have to do something that we don't see in WWE. At one time, TNA was doing that. You won't ideas, sure? I don't know how long you've been a TNA fan, but you remember that little revolutionary thing that was exclusive to them called the X-Division. Maybe they could try to go back to focusing on that. Oh maybe, they could start having their great roster actually put on longer matches on Impact. Say all you want about TNA's wrestling in the past, but even that has taken a fall due to all the skits. TNA maybe has 6 to 7 minute matches now with commercials shown all throughout. Here's another idea: maybe have AJ become his own man, show that he's not a big doofus, and have him set up Angle and Christian. He could say he was playing them off each other all along and pretending to be the dumb lackey to fool them into a false sense of security. Then they can bounce off a few match ideas out of that. Your idea of a push must be completely different from mine. I bet you thought Shane Helms was getting a push as the Hurricane. Just because someone's on TV alot doesn't mean it's a push and/or they're being used right. So you think AJ is being used right? Answer that question for me and your reply will let me know exactly where you stand. In fact, you come off more like a WWE mark than anything. You say if "all you wanna see is wrestling tune in thursday nights..." wait a minute, didn't TNA used to say "WE ARE WRESTLING". See, the last word: WRESTLING. That's why I started watching TNA. Maybe you started watching when Kurt Angle first arrived or something, I don't know. Or when they started doing all the backstage skits, but I started watching back during the weekly PPVs when they had WRESTLING. And lots of it. And it was good too. "Again if you all want to see "wrestling" tune in thursday nights at 1am to espn classics for UWF...paul ordorff, B brian balir, Dr death, and watch just how great an all wrestling show really isnt" And for the 1st time, if you want to see skits and gimmicks, you might as well be watching Raw or Smackdown b/c you can get all that over there and it'll probably be done better anyway. "And for the record, I'm no mark. I just prefer TNA over WWE. I've never ever reeally preferedd WWE anyway, that's just me. But you can go back through numerous threads and see where I've ripped this company a new butthole everytime they had bad shows, contrastly I've praised WWE, so know our facts." Ok, then what's wrong with other people offering their criticisms and ideas? Yeah, he said something harsh about them needing to go out of business, but if you actually care about the company then you might say something like that. Of course, he probably doesn't LITERALLY want them to go out of business, he's more than likely just frustrated like alot of TNA fans. He offered some good in there too, it's not like he came and just said all negative things. He said what he did once like from TNA and what he doesn't like now. What's wrong with that? "" deskjet wote: So what exactly do you want in the X divsion. Just those guys puting on thoe types of matches? I think TNA does that now. The x divsion has a place but it shouldnt be the whole show. TNA integrates the divsion with other wrestlers but also showcases that talent in isolated matches from time to time? So do you just want an x divsion show? Then people will get sick of that. If it's high flying you want, you get that in matches involving MCMG, Aj, Petey, Kaz. So again, what are people bitching about? Do you think that not every one wants to see Dutt vs skipper or Aj vs Daniels every week. Hell yes they put on great matches but TNA is not just the X divsion, they need to be varied to appeal to the masses...taht's just the context in which they are. They were ok before when they werent so mainstream, to showcase the X divsion more, but this comapny is trying to appeal to a lrger more diverse audince...much like WWE does...can you blame them for trying. Hypothetically speaking lets say TNA lands Batista or Undertaker, but there whole show is about the X divsion...what are ya gonna do then...ummmmmm sorry Taker, you dont fit our style so we cant hire ya. there's not a wrestling promotion today indy or otherwise that doesnt have variety in their show..so your arguments for focusing on the x divsion is rather ignorant. And this crap with long matches is just a lame excuse...longer matches is nnot gonna make a show better. When the matches warrant longevity, like a PPV world title match then sure...but when you have alimited amount of time to get your product out there, I dont see how having longer matches benefits the compay or the ratings. Keep in mind WWE has 3 shows to expand their storylines over. It's the quality of the match not the quantity that counts...I can sit and watch randy orton choke hold and kick kennedy for @ hours strtaight or watch Joe vs angle in a half how iron man match...which do you think is gonna keep viewers interested, of course, not considering what's at stake title wise. AJ become his on man? I've been more entertained but AJ in his current role then anbody in a long long time. It works...so why mess with it? Just becasue he cahnged his gimmick and people cant understand character development and storyline telling. He's one of that funniest mic men on tv and that takes absoutely nothing away from his stellar ability in the ring. To me, they are two separate entitties...If aJ ws a bumbling idiot in every match, then they would be doing him a disservice, but he's not..end of debate there. Now some personal points. A WWE matk, I am not...my post ratio TNA:WWE can attest to that. And for the record...do you remember TNA's first world champion when they were with NWA...Ken Shamrock, Gauntlet for the Gold? Do you rember FSN, the flying elvises, Amaazing Red, CM Punk vs Raven? Yeah, I do, I'm been here since the beginning. I cant say i like the cahracters more now then back then, mostly becasue I know who they are, but I do understand what TNA is trying to do. You need to lok at it from their perspectiv...can we draw in the casual fan? will more people watch our wrestling if we have Angle, Booker, etc or will they tune in when they see names like Eric Young Sharkboy, Petey williams...people need to be interested in the product before they tune in..and on every level, TNA is trying to harness that interest by being a show that offeres a little of everything for everyone...x divsion, women, Big names, comedy, tna:X, parody, international flavor, etc. That's how you build a compay to appease the masses-that wants to reach the global market. Guess what TNA is moving...their not in Nashville anymore TOTO!!! Now I ask you...What's wrong with that?  |
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Post by dakotadave on Feb 1, 2008 18:59:19 GMT -5
I wish people would quit bitching about TNA! As was said before..."If you dont like it; DONT WATCH IT!!!!! I mean do you watch, just so you could bitch? Do you think its gonna just magically change to the way you want it to be each week? Evidently you people are out populated; because alot of people like it the way it is. Like was said before at least they are using and pushing TNA stars. Also there are no longer "Ex-WWE Stars". These stars are now TNA. If any of you have ever been to a LIVE TNA show; you'd see the enthusiasm these "ex" stars have for TNA! Chants about hating Cena and WWE errupt and the "Ex" stars get involved.
Why don't you people bitch about WWE as much as you bitch about TNA. They don't do anything different! Their storylines suck; more than TNA's. They push the same storyline over and over and over again. I mean how many times did we see Cena Vs Umaga, or HHH Vs Umaga, or Cena Vs Orton, or UNDERTAKER Vs Anyone (who was supposed to retire 2 years ago). I mean what is so special about this old fart!
You TNA haters have to realize that Wrestling or Wrasslin' is fake, and is ENTERTAINMENT. It is the men's soap opera and that is what brings ratings. If you want the real stuff go watch UFC, and other MMA **** and leave TNA alone. Why should WWE be the only Sports Entertainment company? If TNA wants to be that way, let it be. I like TNA because its competition for WWE. After WWE bought out WCW; the wrestling world sucked; because there was no competition. Now you are bitching because of the competition. If you dont like it DONT WATCH! Im not a big WWE fan, but I watch it because I am a wrestling fan. And if you're a true wrestling fan; you'd watch it and shut up!
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Post by techn9ne77 on Feb 1, 2008 19:19:38 GMT -5
Jesus freakin' Christ, there is so much wrong with your post it hurts. Let me take it piece by piece.
First thing, who said I wanted the X-Division to be the entire show? You must be reading other people's comments or making up stuff as you go along. I said start focusing on the X-Division again. So since I didn't say anything about turning TNA into a X-Division show like you somehow thought I did, about three-quarters of that paragraph is completely meaningless. NOW, on to other matters, of course people like Styles, Daniels, and Joe started out in the division but they moved up and beyond that. TNA only has two titles to work with. What's wrong with people competing in the X-Division, like Joe, Styles, and Daniels did then moving up to challenge for the World title? People gotta start somewhere. Kaz was another major X star that moved up out of the division and is now solid in the mid-card. If you think focusing on the division that was basically their calling card is ignorant to talk about, then why are you even watching TNA in the first place? If you remember TNA themselves always announced that you could not see action like this anywhere else and made it a point to highlight the division. They were even going so far as to bring in Mexican and Japanese stars to showcase a variety of workers. Which once again leads to me asking you, why did you start watching TNA? I started watching because I saw Low-Ki, Jerry Lynn, and AJ Styles having superb matches every week on PPV. I started watching because they would bring in these great workers from ROH and all over and let them put on work clinics. Stuff that I would and was never seeing in the WWE.
"They were ok before when they werent so mainstream, to showcase the X divsion more, but this comapny is trying to appeal to a lrger more diverse audince...much like WWE does...can you blame them for trying. Hypothetically speaking lets say TNA lands Batista or Undertaker, but there whole show is about the X divsion...what are ya gonna do then...ummmmmm sorry Taker, you dont fit our style so we cant hire ya. there's not a wrestling promotion today indy or otherwise that doesnt have variety in their show"
So basically you want them to do whatever it takes to bring in the casual fan, even if it means becoming a low-budget version of WWE. Unbelievable, un-f*cking-believable. The poster who started this thread said he prays that TNA goes out of business. If the bulk of TNA fans think like you, then he probably won't have to wait long. Let me tell you something: trying to reach the casual fan is like a struggling musician trying to put out a pop album and hoping it sells 10 million records. Yeah some people do it, but it's a long shot. There is no set way to bring in the casual fan. Why do people think that the casual fan is just going to start watching because of skits and sports entertainment? Because WWE got their audience that way. Exactly. If that's the case, then TNA should just stop trying to do anything original, go out and get a fake Rock, John Cena, and SCSA (wait a minute on that last one...) TNA is better off creating their own identity and hoping the casual fan tunes in instead of going out of their way to disappoint the only fans they have left.
"And this crap with long matches is just a lame excuse...longer matches is not gonna make a show better. When the matches warrant longevity, like a PPV world title match then sure...but when you have alimited amount of time to get your product out there, I dont see how having longer matches benefits the compay or the ratings. Keep in mind WWE has 3 shows to expand their story lines over. It's the quality of the match not the quantity that counts...I can sit and watch randy orton choke hold and kick kennedy for @ hours strtaight or watch Joe vs angle in a half how iron man match...which do you think is gonna keep viewers interested, of course, not considering what's at stake title wise."
Holy hypocrite. First sentence: "this crap with long matches is a lame excuse". Fast forward: "I can sit and watch Joe vs Angle in a 30 minute Iron Man Match". When TNA had only one hour people said they didn't have longer matches because they needed two hours. They get two hours and the match length still stays the same because they're trying to throw in so many backstage skits, comedy angles, and promos (that go nowhere might I add). I mean, let's be honest for a minute: haven't we seen the MCMGs and Dudleys do basically the same thing for the past several weeks. You don't see how longer matches benefit the company or ratings? How about this: I'm turning past Spike TV and waiting for UFC or something, what is going to make me not click the remote off? AJ and Joe stiffing the hell out of each other in a phenomenal match or Bullet Bob helping train Kip James and BG James in a vacant lot outside Universal Studios. The MCMGs and LAX putting on a tightly contested match or Jim Cornette arguing at Matt Morgan in a conference room backstage.
"AJ become his on man? I've been more entertained but AJ in his current role then anybody in a long long time. It works...so why mess with it? Just because he changed his gimmick and people cant understand character development and storyline telling. He's one of that funniest mic men on tv and that takes absoutely nothing away from his stellar ability in the ring. To me, they are two separate entitties...If aJ ws a bumbling idiot in every match, then they would be doing him a disservice, but he's not..end of debate there."
End of debate my ass, hell no, open that sumbitch back up. You're entertained by his current role more than anybody in a long time? I guess you must've missed Eric Young because his gimmick is almost identical. You say that like a dumb lackey is a truly unique gimmick. Jeez, I bet you creamed when the Major Bros started doing the exact same thing with Edge. Wait, wait, wait, so you're saying that AJ Styles went from being this amazing & serious athlete to a dumb southern do-boy because it's a part of his character development and storytelling. My god, I hope the WWE doesn't decide that since 'Taker has been a bad ass all these years that it would be good for his character development and storytelling and make him DX's lackey. That makes no sense at all and so does your defense of AJ's character.
"but I do understand what TNA is trying to do. You need to lok at it from their perspectiv...can we draw in the casual fan? will more people watch our wrestling if we have Angle, Booker, etc or will they tune in when they see names like Eric Young Sharkboy, Petey williams...people need to be interested in the product before they tune in..and on every level, TNA is trying to harness that interest by being a show that offeres a little of everything for everyone...x divsion, women, Big names, comedy, tna:X, parody, international flavor, etc. That's how you build a compay to appease the masses-that wants to reach the global market. Guess what TNA is moving...their not in Nashville anymore
There you go with that "drawing in the casual fan" stuff again. Look, the casual fan is gone, 1997-2001 has passed. ROH realizes this and focuses on bringing in their own crowd. And they actually make money doing it, goddamn!!! TNA needs to find their niche in the wrestling business and focus on that. You know, I remember this little company called WCW that tried to "bring in the casual fan" by doing what WWE was doing and where are they now again? You don't know how to build a company to 'appease the masses' and neither does TNA. If that were the case then any company could come out and be a threat to WWE. Any company can go get former disgruntled ex-WWE stars and slap them with ridiculous gimmicks while surrounding them with silly storylines (hello WWA). You have to build your own stars, so people will get familiar with your LAXs, Sabins, Shelleys, Joes, etc. and care to tune in. Because bottom line, you're going to eventually run out of YOUR Angles, Bookers, ex-WWE stars, etc. And what's funny about the whole thing is TNA are still doing 1.1s with all these "big-names"/these ex-WWE stars" so I guess they haven't had too big an impact (pun intended). Well, it doesn't look like they're doing too much moving TOTO!!!
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Post by techn9ne77 on Feb 1, 2008 19:26:34 GMT -5
Chants about hating Cena and WWE errupt and the "Ex" stars get involved. Most of that mess you typed has been posted time and time again by the same people. If you're too lazy to go back and read people's rebuttals to your type of arguments, then don't even bother. However I would like to say this: if John Cena left WWE and went to TNA, you and most of these super TNA marks that claim to hate him so much would gladly fall to your knees and suck him off. |
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Post by dakotadave on Feb 1, 2008 19:29:57 GMT -5
I would still hate him, but I would be laughing my ass off; that WWE's biggest star left.
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Post by tnafan4life on Feb 1, 2008 20:47:59 GMT -5
Chants about hating Cena and WWE errupt and the "Ex" stars get involved. Most of that mess you typed has been posted time and time again by the same people. If you're too lazy to go back and read people's rebuttals to your type of arguments, then don't even bother. However I would like to say this: if John Cena left WWE and went to TNA, you and most of these super TNA marks that claim to hate him so much would gladly fall to your knees and suck him off. Actually, No I wouldn't. Ask anyone on here.. I'm the biggest TNA mark & I sure as hell wouldn't. |
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Post by wrestlingvader1 on Feb 1, 2008 21:23:45 GMT -5
U TNA MARKS think we are bitchin about TNA because wer'e WWE MARKS, HELL NO wer'e bitchin about them because we know how good they were. Back in 2006 my friends and I wer'e mad cause WWE fans weren't watching .TNA was great I know how important a second promtion is ,If tna is doing good buyrates and ratings wwe gets worried forces them to do better. I was tryin tell wwe fans that ,support tna its going make wwe better to but that was in 06 and middle part of 07 now i can give a  if anybody watches that ****. u guys want to go around and tell people dont watch it if u dont like it no let's watch tna hang themselves for ****ting on their fan base. They got on tv with pushing the X division AJ Daniels AMW Team Canada X CUP , were was your boys CAGE ,ANGLE, Booker etc oh thats right making the WWE money while TNA talent wasn't making half of the money wwe guys were. BUSTING their ASS to make that company what is today, how do they reward them by giving Angle and guys the guaranteed contracts titles shots etc.
Now dont get me wrong I'm glad Cage and Angle over there i dont mind TNA getting a 2 or 3 big names as long as they can work TNA style, But u guys got to admit Angle vs AJ in 4 mins on free tv first time ever with no build was bull **** What happen to my Dream FUEDS TNA? Angle vs AJ, DANIELS Senshi ,Sabin they barley gave me JOE right, yeah they probably still can give me some of these matches but i bet the booking is going to be ****.
Face it guys Russo doesn't respect wrestling didn't u watch WCW I did to the end just like im going try to watch tna to the end [keyword= TRY] you all act like tna fans are the only ones unhappy about tna new direction hello JOE, HARRIS, TRUTH, SENSHI , LAX I know WWE got a couple guys in their locker room that is unhappy but at least their getting PAID to take ****.
And speaking of money one of u guys said if tna goes out of business what about their family it aint like most guys in tna is making **** anyway .they could make that in ROH , indys and overseas, I dont care if u are in the wwe or not everybody in this cutthroat business knows u need something to fall back on, so Hitman pray on .
U talk about WWE wrestlers are now TNA talent sure that work for Truth, Tomko,and Morgan because they didn't make a big splash in the WWE, but if half of TNA talent left and tna replaces them wth wwe guys like Carlito, Batita ,Kennedy Edge and u still love tna guess what HULKAMANICS that mean u are really a WWE fan, now go out and buy that Bestbuy Cenadvd pack you'll love it.
U see MR VIZIO, TNAFAN124, DSEKEJT guys like HITMAN, TECH9NE77, AND UNDIETAKER are trying to give u guys a heads up on where TNA is going and right next to a WCW TOMBSTONE here lies a another company trying to be like WWE. |
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Post by tnafan4life on Feb 1, 2008 22:07:28 GMT -5
Jesus Christ. I can't even read that long ass run on sentence. How about you work on grammar & then I'll try to read it. 'Kay? Anyways, why don't you people just stop watching? Noone - NOONE is forcing you to watch TNA. If you don't like it & think it's sucks then that seriously makes you a dumbass for watching a product you think sucks. While you think it sucks there's 1.5 million people out there who like the product so much they tune in every week. So, yup.. TNA's doomed |
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Post by The UndyTaker on Feb 1, 2008 23:51:34 GMT -5
Oh well. Then they go to college and get a degree and do something else. Just because you want to be a wrestler doesn't earn you a job. Did you send money to all of the WCW guys who didn't go work for WWE after Vince bought WCW? Stuff happens. If you worked for a company and it went out of business, do you automatically get hired by another company just because you have bills to pay and they feel bad for you? No. That doesnt even have anything to do with my point. My point was that I would never hope for a company to go out of business just because I personally dont like the product, because guess what alot of people like TNA and TNA helps provide for alot of people. Therefore it would be selfish to "pray for it to go out of business" Now you're just backtracking. What you just said sounds nothing like what you said earlier. If you can take the time to post, clarify what you mean. At least read what you wrote before you post it so you can see if you are making your point. |
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Post by dakotadave on Feb 2, 2008 0:20:34 GMT -5
Jesus Christ. I can't even read that long ass run on sentence. How about you work on grammar & then I'll try to read it. 'Kay? Anyways, why don't you people just stop watching? Noone - NOONE is forcing you to watch TNA. If you don't like it & think it's sucks then that seriously makes you a dumbass for watching a product you think sucks. While you think it sucks there's 1.5 million people out there who like the product so much they tune in every week. So, yup.. TNA's doomed ;D That WrestlingVader1 is a damn joke! What is he; a 1st Grader?!?! I tried to understand what he was saying, but with about 50 comma's and one period; it put my brain into OVERLOAD!!!!! (wrestlingvader1)-Nice try kid! You may have had a point in there somewhere, but since your one big run-on sentence was hard to understand; it shows your true intelligence. You're not make a very good impression, so I suggest you go back to elementary school and learn a thing or two about grammar before you comeback and try to tell us TNA boys off. |
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Post by Thick Justice on Feb 2, 2008 0:40:26 GMT -5
I personnally hate TNA.
I however don't want most of there talent in the E. I want some in ROH though. I quit watching TNA in 2007 when Judas Mesias promos began. I quit watching WSX because of him. I quit watching SD because of Taker and Kane. I personnally don't want Abyss, Judas, Black Reign, Kaz, Raven, Daniels, Salinas, Rellik, Sabin, or Rick Steiner in WWE or ROH. The rest I wouldn't mind in WWE and ROH but I know some of them would end up in WWE and ROH.
Therefore I want TNA to stay in bussiness for 10 more years. I expect them to go out of bussiness by 2010-2013. I think they will end up buying so many talent that all of there lower card guys go to WWE and are made into stars. Either that or there top stars two years ago will end up not being used and go to the WWE. Such as Christian Cage, Rhino, AJ Styles, and Raven. All of them have been World Champions in TNA but haven't gotten as large of pushes as in the past. Killings has already left.
I do see them turning into WCW. Buying all the former WWE names who are free. Losing there former stars to the competition after being buried. Buying Booker T and Kurt Angle while losing Jerry Lynn, Senshi, Ron Killings, Chris Harris, and Corvon. They had all been pushed but since they got bigger stars they pushed there buts out the door. Putting the tag titles on Pacman is similar to putting the WCW title on Arquette. It isn't as bad but it is similar.
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Post by wrestlingvader1 on Feb 2, 2008 0:40:32 GMT -5
How are u gonna check my grammar when your boy dsekjet misspelled everything under the sun ,Hell at one point i thought he was doing the **** on purpose ,but that grammar talk that ****s gay , 1.5 how many of those 1.5 are just like me who watches tna just to laugh at it and fans like u. Matter of fact just like the same way people watch Britney everyday and claiming their sick of her but can't wait see what stupid **** did today. Thats TNA without the money and the tits, 1.5 aint **** yall got ANGLE, CAGE, Booker, Steiner VKM, 3d Nash and ya'll can do 1.2 wow WSX did that **** in 30mins Pretty soon spike ain't gonna keep on putting up with 1.1 ****,this is crazy tna fans will take anything u might as well let Russo come over and fondle you. |
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Post by techn9ne77 on Feb 2, 2008 0:41:33 GMT -5
That WrestlingVader1 is a damn joke! What is he; a 1st Grader?!?! I tried to understand what he was saying, but with about 50 comma's and one period; it put my brain into OVERLOAD!!!!! Nice try kid! You may have had a point in there somewhere, but since your one big run-on sentence was hard to understand; it shows your true intelligence. You're not make a very good impression, so I suggest you go back to elementary school and learn a thing or two about grammar before you try you comeback and try to tell us TNA boys off. No offense dude, but if you're going to talk about someone else's grammar, you really should make sure your stuff is right also. For example: "with about 50 comma's and one period". It would be just 50 commas, no need for an apostrophe. And... "You're not make a very good impression, so I suggest you go back to elementary school and learn a thing or two about grammar before you try you comeback and try to tell us TNA boys off" What??!! "You're not make..." and "before you try you comeback". Top-notch gibberish right there. Hey, I'm just saying. Kettle, pot, black. |
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Feb 2, 2008 0:48:08 GMT -5
That WrestlingVader1 is a damn joke! What is he; a 1st Grader?!?! I tried to understand what he was saying, but with about 50 comma's and one period; it put my brain into OVERLOAD!!!!! Nice try kid! You may have had a point in there somewhere, but since your one big run-on sentence was hard to understand; it shows your true intelligence. You're not make a very good impression, so I suggest you go back to elementary school and learn a thing or two about grammar before you try you comeback and try to tell us TNA boys off. No offense dude, but if you're going to talk about someone else's grammar, you really should make sure your stuff is right also. For example: "with about 50 comma's and one period". It would be just 50 commas, no need for an apostrophe. And... "You're not make a very good impression, so I suggest you go back to elementary school and learn a thing or two about grammar before you try you comeback and try to tell us TNA boys off" What??!! "You're not make..." and "before you try you comeback". Top-notch gibberish right there. Hey, I'm just saying. Kettle, pot, black. Please...the kettle prefers to be called "African-American." |
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Post by wrestlingvader1 on Feb 2, 2008 1:28:09 GMT -5
Jesus Christ. I can't even read that long ass run on sentence. How about you work on grammar & then I'll try to read it. 'Kay? Anyways, why don't you people just stop watching? Noone - NOONE is forcing you to watch TNA. If you don't like it & think it's sucks then that seriously makes you a dumbass for watching a product you think sucks. While you think it sucks there's 1.5 million people out there who like the product so much they tune in every week. So, yup.. TNA's doomed ;D That WrestlingVader1 is a damn joke! What is he; a 1st Grader?!?! I tried to understand what he was saying, but with about 50 comma's and one period; it put my brain into OVERLOAD!!!!! (wrestlingsomewhere,vader1)-Nice try kid! You may have had a point in there but since your one big run-on sentence was hard to understand; it shows your true intelligence. You're not make a very good impression, so I suggest you go back to elementary school and learn a thing or two about grammar before you comeback and try to tell us TNA boys off. |
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Post by wrestlingvader1 on Feb 2, 2008 1:45:06 GMT -5
I dont like to reply back to grammar jokes[it's so gay] but I wrote it like that cause i thought u wouldn't notice. I mean u watch and love TNA and u dont notice how ed up that is, I guess i underestimated you guys[THEY GROW UP SO FAST] |
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Post by Gussy on Feb 2, 2008 2:08:22 GMT -5
At first, i very much dislike TNA but now that i think about it, tna is better for the business cause it creates more jobs for indy wrestlers and inspiring wrestlers, it also kinda forces wwe to pay more to its employees since theres competition and more money means better lifestyle.
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Post by Master Lewpac on Feb 3, 2008 2:17:42 GMT -5
STOP BITCHING.
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Post by Dan on Feb 3, 2008 10:38:36 GMT -5
Kurt Angle was at his absolute best ever during his last year at the WWE. You watch One Night Stand 2006, Kurt Angle V Randy Orton. I've never seen a mre over guy in my life simply because he was a great Wrestler.
I feel TNA has such good potential, it's on a different level to ROH. But, the last year and a half it's really gone downhill for me. They are clearly trying to push the entertainment aspect of things, and if you want the Entertainment, you might aswell watch the WWE. People loved TNA because it focused so much on the wrestling, and had a great mix and variety of talent, and the storylines were simple, and mainly based on wrestling anyway.
Since then, it's been pretty much the same old thing, adding other aspects and gimmicks which simply don't fit in with TNA.
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