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Post by Wrigley15 on Sept 4, 2008 17:52:14 GMT -5
Before i get mugged jakks does screw up often. I have been on here for several months now and all i hear is how bad each figure is and all that. The figures are made for kids not collectors or whatnot. I think they are doing a good job at it and are producing alot of good figs. I do not get it when people complain about how its just a repaint with same scan. Okay of course its a repaint cause orton didn't change attires and go into overalls. I guess a new head scan could be orton sneezing or looking constipated or something.I recently bought the cs Rikishi fig and i must say it is a very good fig and the scan is the ttl one but it looks great. basically if you dont like the figure then dont buy it I must say though jakks chokes in big situations. The rock with all tats that was supposed to get we did not get and got a rerelease of the same fig but w/ no tape. I dont get it?? Dont like it = Dont buy it. then jakks might learn something. Sorry for the wall of text.
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Post by Quanthor on Sept 4, 2008 18:03:03 GMT -5
Figures are made for the consumer, whether they are kids or collectors, but some lines such as the Classic Superstars are obviously made with the collector in mind seeing how most of the figures are of stars that were around long before kids were born.
I think Jakks is an excellent company that has given us more than I could ever imagine, but in doing this they have set a precedent for quality merchandise and at times they don't live up to their own potential or expectations.
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Post by Legends Collector on Sept 4, 2008 18:04:57 GMT -5
You think the CS 18 Rikishi is a good figure? ing hell, that has to be the worst figure EVER produced by Jakks.
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Post by Wrigley15 on Sept 4, 2008 18:24:15 GMT -5
You think the CS 18 Rikishi is a good figure? ing hell, that has to be the worst figure EVER produced by Jakks. I like it but it could be better
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Sept 4, 2008 18:24:38 GMT -5
That CS Rikishi is awful, ya the Rikishi TTL headscan might be good, but the CSS is "supposed" to be a premium series, he should have been given a whole new headscan, and I won't even get into his rediculously oversized body. I mean those figures cost more than RA figures but they're made from the same type of molds and made with the same type of plasic yet they cost more, they should be flawless they should have more unique molds I mean Paul Bearer taller than The Undertaker? WTF? Kamala with tape on his ankles and a mini skirt? What the hell? There's no need for that if they're gong to charge more they should be perfect, Jakks is lazy and unprofessional and I'm fully confident that Mattel will do a much better job than these clowns.
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Post by The Assassin on Sept 4, 2008 18:30:12 GMT -5
I like to think my constructive criticism can help Jakks improve their products, help them make the figures I want to buy and ultimately get more of my money. I do try to praise the things they do well, but I can almost always think of an improvement, that's just the kind of person i am.
Jakks have improved hugely in the last few years IMO, before RA and CS came along they were a lot worse. But there's still room for improvement. They need to listen more and ASK more. The official CS survey was a great idea and Jeremy is good for posting news on his site, but he barely ever actually ASKS our opinions on things like attires, headscans, exclusives etc.
And YES, CS18 Rikishi was awful. It should have had a brand new headscan, or at least they should have redone the details of the TTL head they used. And who was responsible for choosing that torso? Have they even seen rikishi wrestle? things like this could have been (and were in this case) pointed out by us fans, and could/should have been fixed. if only Jakks had read just a few of the comments on the proto image...
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Post by rvd+sabu=greatness on Sept 4, 2008 18:53:54 GMT -5
Representatives from jakks sometimes read what we have to say on these boards. If there is an agreement or atleast a majority of the people that have a complaint about a figure, it will help jakks improve their product. I don't think jakks would like it if we simply didn't buy the figures. Jakks would be losing money ofcourse. I think Jakks would rather improve on their figures to our specifications before they mass produce them and ship them to stores for people to buy. Sometimes this doesn't work out but sometimes it does.
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Post by The Assassin on Sept 4, 2008 19:03:59 GMT -5
the whole "if you don't like it, don't buy it" arguement is ridiculous. we're all here because we WANT to buy wrestling figures. We WANT to give Jakks our money. And we all have ideas of the things we to see from Jakks. sales figures don't tell Jakks exactly why a figure didn't sell and certainly won't tell them how to improve future versions of the character in question. plus they sell by the case anyway. once they've made the figure and it's in a store, it's too late to change it. and it's even more important when the character in question doesn't get many figures made. why not give a little constructive criticism and actually tell jakks exactly what you want?
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Post by nelson0755 on Sept 6, 2008 9:56:35 GMT -5
the whole "if you don't like it, don't buy it" arguement is ridiculous. we're all here because we WANT to buy wrestling figures. We WANT to give Jakks our money. And we all have ideas of the things we to see from Jakks. sales figures don't tell Jakks exactly why a figure didn't sell and certainly won't tell them how to improve future versions of the character in question. plus they sell by the case anyway. once they've made the figure and it's in a store, it's too late to change it. and it's even more important when the character in question doesn't get many figures made. why not give a little constructive criticism and actually tell jakks exactly what you want? Nice educated reply. I hope I see your imput more than not, if it is usually similar to this, using the same thought process.
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Post by NYdream™ on Sept 6, 2008 10:03:09 GMT -5
Actually the If you dont like it dont buy it saying is very true. A figure can even perfect with no flaws and some of you will still not like them. Garunteed.
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Sept 6, 2008 10:03:40 GMT -5
I disagree with so much of what you say plus you contradicted yourself. -The reason we complain is because there is just far too many flaws. You dont see other companies making such ludicrous mistakes in almost every set. We dont expect perfect all the time but i think for so many things, as much as there are positives, there are negatives. -As assassin said we are here cause we want to buy figs. We discuss figs here hence our comments, doesnt mean we are criticisng something we are definitely buying. -As for the orton examplem a simple change of attire colours or correct boots could make it better. -That rikishi is highly flawed. The torso is exceedingly huge, if they took a TTL scan they should have taken the rest of the fig which was in fact superior.
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Post by nastynate on Sept 6, 2008 10:31:44 GMT -5
i think a big part if it is the HUGE AMOUNT of figures jakks produces with any given month. NO toy company pumps out figure lines like jakks does. EVERYONE wants new wwe roster members when we see them on tv. with jakks they deliver that for us. think about the number of lines they have to PUMP OUT these figures.... if jakks were more QUALITY oriented do you really think we would be getting these figs in the volume we are getting them in now? HELL NO, so sometimes we rasslin collectors gotta see the good with the bad. we are getting jesse, festus, hawkins, ryder, hell...even d.h smith!!!! i mean how awesome was it when sandman and punk hit shelves? and they hit shelves pretty quick IMO. maybe the tna/ufc lines will deliver more with quality and less with numbers thanks to fan input? i guess we will have to wait and see. but stop the hate dammit, love thy jakks!!!!
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Post by WalterF on Sept 6, 2008 11:00:09 GMT -5
I love JAKKS. Sure, a lot of figures are kinda bad, but no one is forcing you to buy those. Plenty of the figures they release are downright INCREDIBLE. For example, DA16 Edge, RA32 Jesse/Festus and so many of them. So just buy the really good ones, like I do and you're set. On a whole, JAKKS does a superb job in my opinion.
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Post by T-Phunk on Sept 6, 2008 11:46:49 GMT -5
I understand what you are saying, but the "if you don't like it don't buy it" statement has layers. A lot of people, including myself were/are CS completists. Now luckily I am a loose collector so TBH if I miss a figure like I intend to with CS20 Rock it will not be as noticeable. The MOC collector in my opinion are the ones that got screwed the worst with CS 18 Rikishi. I have not been shy in calling that a turd in a box, but if that one is not hanging on your wall then they have an incomplete set. Also I think criticism stands out more. I know most of the time when I see a great figure all I say is "Wow that RA 35 Hornswoggle looks great." However when I see something put together that obviously looks bad I will comment about each detail that makes me think it looks wrong. Commenting on a Jakks produced figure is not really like commenting on the custom board. There you are instructed and encouraged to say why you like something and not just respond with "looks cool." Here if Jakks gets something right I'll say it, but I am not setting off fireworks because they did their job correctly.
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Post by Reddevilbigevil on Sept 6, 2008 12:15:53 GMT -5
who cares really, 1 more year and no more jakks!! YAY!! Mattel seems to be listening more and more to the fans to make things proper for them, and I`m hoping for some WWE exclusives through mattycollector.com in 2010! as a CS completionist I must say that the the quality has diminished in the last year or so. Sure the sets are smaller but the mix of newer superstars such as Cena is just getting stupid and the series lineup`s suck!
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Post by heartbreak2008 on Sept 6, 2008 12:36:24 GMT -5
Figures arn't just made for kids ! Thats an insult you know.
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Post by plasticsuperstar on Sept 6, 2008 13:46:11 GMT -5
LOL You are an idiot! Not only do you contradict yourself you also pick THE WORST figure Jakks ever made as an example of a good one, CS18 Rikishi is a perfect example of everything that's wrong with Jakks - Despite thousands of posts/comments/emails about how he wasn't ever that fat Jakks for whatever reason gave him the hugest body mold ever (that's only ever been used on Yoko and Viscera who are supposed to be huge) then, instead of rectifying that problem they spent loads of extra time and money trying to work with their mistake giving him those silly cloth kickpads and kneepads (which turned into no kneepads) when the right torso would've allowed the regular pads and boots to fit. THAT is the problem with Jakks - sometimes all their effort goes into the corner cutting (even though that seems ridiculous) they sometimes spend so much time, effort and money trying to work out how to do something cheaper and easier that they could've just put that effort into doing it properly and it would've come out perfect for cheaper production costs. The old "Don't Like It Don't Buy It! Simple!" chestnut is what people who don't collect figures say. No one else makes WWE figures so there's no other option, we don't buy them because of our love of Jakks, we collect because we love wrestling figures, so saying don't like it don't buy it is like telling us to give up collecting, which is stupid. No one who collects hates all the figures, I think all of us have many many figures that we think are beyond incredible, but why should we be happy not to have a certain wrestler like Rikishi in our collection just because Jakks messed up the only RA one there is? Many CS figures are the only ever figure made of a certain person, so how can any wrestling fan/figure collector who has eagerly anticipated the release of that figure for years not be annoyed when it's totally messed up to save Jakks a couple of cents?! Just because you don't have to buy it doesn't change that at all! Apart from that, there are many CS completists who buy whole sets, it would be very annoying to miss a few figures just because they are the ones that suck. You really haven't thought about what you are saying, you have alot to learn before you should start making threads because you just don't get it at all.
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Post by flying-shorty on Sept 6, 2008 13:50:25 GMT -5
I think jakks are a bit de-mob happy now. Dont want to pump too much money into figures and lines when theyre gonna be passing the license over to their rivals in a year.
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Post by fishzilla on Oct 21, 2008 18:49:35 GMT -5
First The cs 18 looks like a scrap up. Second Figs arent made just for kids Third: The rikishi body looks like Vaders body and its all tan. God he isn't Vader.
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Post by Wrigley15 on Oct 21, 2008 19:22:26 GMT -5
this was made over a month ago but im just sayin that I liked the fig even though it was terrible. Im a big fan of him and yes it should be redone.
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