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Post by HardyHeft on Oct 21, 2008 19:23:53 GMT -5
Ive myself never really have hated against jakks. sure they have cut corners but i have come to expect that from companies all of them do it at one time or another. thats how they make money
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Post by The Madness on Oct 21, 2008 19:28:37 GMT -5
I don't think the major problem is with the figures themselves. It's that Jakks charges a premium price for what is currently one of the lowest quality figures on the market. I absolutely love the concept of the CS line, but usually I just can't justify paying $12+ for barely-poseable figures that are, more often than not, the same bodies with different heads.
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Post by Batista on Oct 21, 2008 19:38:38 GMT -5
Because if this site didnt have people bitching about little things, the world would not turn. Nothing will ever be good enough for the majority of the people here, they bitch that the product is shit, then buy it anyways.
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Post by Wrigley15 on Oct 21, 2008 19:43:43 GMT -5
People complained about the scan because oh its the old ttl scan. So what it looks great what do you want him to be doing sneezing. Im gonna get heat for this just like if anyone else did it. But if someone like kaneisdaman said it theyd all agree and pop em a karma.(no offense to kaneisdaman ) If you look at the fig section you see that wwe seems to be the most generic type of figure. I love them but for 13 bucks for a cs fig is just ridiculous.
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Post by Bruiser Brody on Oct 21, 2008 21:14:33 GMT -5
I look at it this way. Jakks did us all a real solid with the the RA figs and especially the CS line. Made me get back into figure collecting like crazy. However, as a paying customer I expect better than they produce sometimes. If I, and I am sure many others will agree, were not so passionate about these figures then I wouldn't care enough to post anything.
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Post by iyfwkidzc on Oct 21, 2008 21:19:35 GMT -5
Repaints and bad head scans.
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Post by MR._SOCKO on Oct 21, 2008 21:25:52 GMT -5
I think that we all like Jakks as a whole. If not, we wouldn't be coming and posting messages. Our gripes (and I'm glad more and more people are coming on board) is due to the constant disappointments with their product. I give them their due when they release an awesome figure like Hornswoggle or some of the other cooler new figs. It's just sad that these figures could be soooo much better if they just used the correct parts and paid attention to smaller details like other toy companies out there (McFarlane Sports figs, Family Guy figures, etc.)
I think a lot of people were more lenient of these mistakes when the Jakks figures were a little cheaper but now that most single RA figures are between $9.99 & $12.99, it's just ridiculous to pay a price like that for a half-assed product.
p.s. That Rikishi figure was horrible.
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Post by Smash Ventura on Oct 21, 2008 22:17:12 GMT -5
I think theres nothing wrong with all of us offering constructive criticism... Jakks has certainly set the bar of what could be done very high...and they themselfs sometimes fail to reach that hight and othet imes ladn deadf on....
I will say in todays wrestling figure market that pretty much every wrestling figure form the begininbg could be found to have various faults... i cant speek for everyone but i will speek for me..i dont mind so much when jakks falls a little short as i like to tinker with my figs a little.. weather it be a part swap or a paint job..
the bulldogs new tag pack has them in the gear i really like... i will purchase a cs 24 davey boy and head swap along with a switch to black knee pads... would it be better if jakks did this themselfs to begin with ? yes totally...i agree 100 percent... but am i the only one who is greatful that we can now have the bulldogs without dynamite being a custom and the ony other actual set of them being the ljn rubber figures?
i will say examples like this is why despite these kinds of faults,i am very glad jakks has overall done a good job peticularly in the names repersented in the cs line..ignoring odd ball picks like tank abbot...lol
i am a old school fan the wrestling war between the nwa and wwf...and i over all must say thank you jeremy for spear heading the cs line...i take great pride in looking over my shelves and enjoying the vast roster of classic names standing there...
the tag team devision alone is to awesome for words...
just me personally i think they have done well over all:)
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Post by Raoul the Great on Oct 21, 2008 23:17:09 GMT -5
I agree that CS figures need to be as close to flawless as possible considering the mark-up.
But the main thing that Jakks does that pisses me off is do a total Bait & Switch when it comes to their prototypes versus their finished products. I have never seen another toy company do that... ever. It is dishonest and sleazy. Just to name a few examples: Undertaker w/ skull mask, Black Tiger, both Edge's w/ unpainted lower legs, JTG's bulletproof vest, Strongbow's headress, Papa Shango's hat, and AD 13's TTL arms for Reigns and Grenier (who we never got again).
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Oct 21, 2008 23:22:23 GMT -5
People complained about the scan because oh its the old ttl scan. So what it looks great what do you want him to be doing sneezing. Im gonna get heat for this just like if anyone else did it. But if someone like kaneisdaman said it theyd all agree and pop em a karma.(no offense to kaneisdaman ) If you look at the fig section you see that wwe seems to be the most generic type of figure. I love them but for 13 bucks for a cs fig is just ridiculous. No offense taken. My view on the rikishi is yeah the headscan is a decent one however id have liked to see a new one. The main problem wit hrikishi is the body is just huge when he could have settled for something like the mark henry body. But really, CS18 was a disaster. Sure you can point out the positives but there are more negatives in the set.
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Post by Raoul the Great on Oct 21, 2008 23:44:18 GMT -5
HOWEVER, I will now praise Jakks. For every figure they screw up, they make one PERFECT.
How about Hornswoggle? It's his first figure and it's flawless from his 100% new body mold, to his hat, and his sheleiliegh (I know I spelled it wrong). What about ECW series 1 Sandman? Jakks not only created a kendo stick (2 actually to perfect the original with a better handle), gave him a great headscan, and made his shirt perfect right down to the lettering on the back.
And the Classic line has had a ton of perfect releases. How about the champions 3-pack Bret Hart, my personal favorite of all the Bret Harts, of which all were damn good. CSTT 1 Legion of Doom having different torso and awesome red and black shoulder pads. Or even my personal favorite Andy Kaufman! How cool is it that Jakks made an Andy Kaufman figure, a guy never in WWF, WCW, or ECW. A guy who really had no marketability anywhere else than this line. And they made him PERFECT! Great headscan, spot-on attire... even a neckbrace! The Lawler he came with wasn't too shabby either! How about Yokozuna, Hillbilly Jim, CS 7 Andre, CS 12 Warrior or Valentine? There are too many to really list, but there are a lot of great figures in the CS line.
And I would be a hypocrite if I didn't bring up the Rocky line. Jakks put a TON of work into that line covering virtually every character they could, even ones with tiny parts like Mike Tyson (another perfect figure with a completely removable cloth suit over boxing attire... that wasn't even in the movie!), to making some of my favorites like Ivan Drago, Clubber Lang, and even the manipulative George Washington Duke. That line had tons of cloth attires like robes, coats, and blouses. There were even multiple headscans for some like Rocky, Adrian, Creed, and Clubber. Yes there were some flaws, but overall the series would get an A from me.
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Oct 22, 2008 14:13:59 GMT -5
Constructive criticism is wonderful. It makes the world go round. However, "jakks is lazy" is not constructive. It's actually not even close to being acurate.
In all seriousness, if Jakks produced 1 set every 3-5 months with extreme detail, they'd probably go out of business or drop that line. Anyone seen the last guys to make TNA figures? Did an awesome job with detail didn't they? They decided to go the other route than Jakks did, and chose quality over quantity. Yep, people didn't buy those figures. So that company doesn't make them any more.
Now, do you as a consumer have every right to voice your opinion about what you like and what you don't? You absolutely do. Just do it the right way. I realize the age bracket here doesn't let everyone truely understand that, but it needs to be said anyway.
AND the "don't like it don't buy it" line is very legit. In fact, if more people actually adopted that rule, big companies would be forced to change or go under. OR, there's a chance that your opinion to something you don't like is actually not the way the majority of people feel. Then, you're out of luck. Look at my opinion for example. I personally will not purchase another HHH, Cena, Kane, etc. when I already have too many. BUT, obviously not too many other WWE fans share my opinions, because they sell a ton of those guys in each set they show up in. If I come to this site and say "too many repaints! You're lazy jakks!!!" do you think they're going to take action? Jakks probably thinks "Hmm, some 9 year old wants more Evan Bourne and Ricky Ortiz figures, but last quarter we sold more plastic made to look like Rey Mysterio than we can shake a stick at."
Finally, if you don't like something, don't purchase it. Call up customer service and come to this website, and explain why you didn't like it, but at least act like your education made it through middle school.
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