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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2008 12:08:16 GMT -5
how did Austing turning on WWF at Invasion make zero sense at all. it made alot of sense if you know Austin.Stever Austin was in WCW first & made his name there .Austin just rejoined the fed that made him first. alos goldberg did not deserve to win the title at all IN WWE . goldberg is piece of crap & HHH is right for what he did to goldberg . goldberg has no loyality to wrestling business unlike HHH who gives his whole life to wrestling. first of all,take your time before you type. If I know Austin...... dont lecture me on Austin.it made zero sense because Austin was treated like crap by WCW and fired whilst out sick.this was HEAVILY publicised by WWF,he was also jobbed out to Jim Duggan and several others that were way past it, at Hogans behest too.... so no WCW did not "make" Austin.Jesus  I dont like Bill Goldberg.but that night from a business standpoint it was a bad decision.the crowd clearly wanted Goldberg to win and HHH(the man who gave his life to wrestling )was injured so he should have dropped the belt.and done what was right for the business-you know the one he gave his life for?yknow? |
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Post by HugoOne on Sept 23, 2008 12:23:59 GMT -5
how did Austing turning on WWF at Invasion make zero sense at all. it made alot of sense if you know Austin.Stever Austin was in WCW first & made his name there .Austin just rejoined the fed that made him first. alos goldberg did not deserve to win the title at all IN WWE . goldberg is piece of crap & HHH is right for what he did to goldberg . goldberg has no loyality to wrestling business unlike HHH who gives his whole life to wrestling. Austin didn't defect to WCW because he used to be in WCW, though. If he gave that reason, it would have at least made a little sense. But as the poster before me noted, they treated him like crap at the end of his tenure, firing him via FedEx. Austin didn't make his name in WCW. That's not to say he didn't have his moments and matches but he would have been nothing more than a footnote in wrestling history if he didn't become "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. Did they even give a reason why Austin joined the Alliance? I'll throw out another one that really cheesed me, probably more for personal reasons (I've never been a Hogan fan)...Hogan going over Orton at Summerslam. I know the crowd loves to ride the Hulkamania nostalgia wave every now and then, but Orton was at that point, and still is, the future, and Hogan had no right going over him. |
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Post by hurrimark on Sept 23, 2008 13:35:03 GMT -5
WWF made Austin, not WCW.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2008 15:34:45 GMT -5
man there have been a few that made me reel with disgust. heres my top peevs...... Austin being turned heel after WM17 annoyed me but to have him turn on team WWF at Invasion made me stop watching for a month SOLID.my God it made zero sense at all. HHH going over Goldberg in the Elimination Chamber after Goldberg wiped the rest of the competition out.apparently Tripper thought Bills title win would mean more in a one on one match-it didnt. there are more but I cant think of them at the moment how did Austing turning on WWF at Invasion make zero sense at all. it made alot of sense if you know Austin. Stever Austin was in WCW first & made his name there .Austin just rejoined the fed that made him first. alos goldberg did not deserve to win the title at all IN WWE . goldberg is piece of crap & HHH is right for what he did to goldberg . goldberg has no loyality to wrestling business unlike HHH who gives his whole life to wrestling. Im pretty damn sure Austin did a promo on how "the WWF didnt appreciate him". |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2008 15:41:32 GMT -5
yeah I think Austin said Vince didnt appreciate him too......the end of Invasion really pissed me off
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Post by samsson on Sept 25, 2008 12:36:37 GMT -5
Not having Dreamer/Colin winning the Tag Titles from Miz/Morrison in that Extreme rulez match really killed Colin's momentum and we see what happened there  Also not being patient and waiting for Kennedy to serve his suspension so he could be Vince's son...with that angle he could still be on TV even when he's hurt.GETTING RID OF ARIEL !!!!!!!!!!Having Taz loses to Triple H was just pure BLASPHEME and anything to do with jerking CM Punk out of titles  |
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Post by K5 on Sept 25, 2008 19:57:59 GMT -5
basically the entire nwo's direction.
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Post by markallenkellner on Sept 26, 2008 20:53:11 GMT -5
Ahmed Johnson joining the NOD. It made no sense.
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Post by Optimus Prime on Sept 27, 2008 10:11:02 GMT -5
Everybody already named some good ones, but I'll say that Austin's heel turn in 2001 just ruined the WWE, and ruined Austin's character forever.
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Post by Raine on Sept 27, 2008 10:34:14 GMT -5
Everybody already named some good ones, but I'll say that Austin's heel turn in 2001 just ruined the WWE, and ruined Austin's character forever. I agree, normally fan reaction dictates when a face should turn heel or vice versa, when you do it out of the blue, it doesn't normally tend to work. Look how Austin was still heavilly cheered after his turn in 2001, it just didn't work. You have to look at things like when Rocky Maivia was turned heel into The Rock, it was because the crowd reaction forced it, look at Austin/Bret's double turn at WM13, it was because the crowd reaction forced it. This is why I can't understand why John Cena isn't turned heel, the crowd demand it, if you listen to the boo's but Vince would prefer merchandise revenue that Cena generates from kids over a logical booking decision, which would be good for business in the long run. |
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Post by Hollywood QJD on Sept 27, 2008 15:26:00 GMT -5
Jericho winning the Undisputed title. What, you would have preferred Rock vs Austin, A.K.A what EVERYONE had been expecting? How original. My only Grill is that Angle didnt win against Austin. THe fans would have had heart attacks. |
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Sept 27, 2008 17:42:20 GMT -5
Jericho winning the Undisputed title. What, you would have preferred Rock vs Austin, A.K.A what EVERYONE had been expecting? How original. My only Grill is that Angle didnt win against Austin. THe fans would have had heart attacks. Acorrding to Kurt Angle's RF Video Shoot interview, he states that he (Angle) was supposed to become the Undisputed Champion. |
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Post by The Boglin on Oct 1, 2008 14:14:09 GMT -5
how did Austing turning on WWF at Invasion make zero sense at all. it made alot of sense if you know Austin.Stever Austin was in WCW first & made his name there .Austin just rejoined the fed that made him first. alos goldberg did not deserve to win the title at all IN WWE . goldberg is piece of crap & HHH is right for what he did to goldberg . goldberg has no loyality to wrestling business unlike HHH who gives his whole life to wrestling. first of all,take your time before you type. If I know Austin...... dont lecture me on Austin.it made zero sense because Austin was treated like crap by WCW and fired whilst out sick.this was HEAVILY publicised by WWF,he was also jobbed out to Jim Duggan and several others that were way past it, at Hogans behest too.... so no WCW did not "make" Austin.Jesus I dont like Bill Goldberg.but that night from a business standpoint it was a bad decision.the crowd clearly wanted Goldberg to win and HHH(the man who gave his life to wrestling )was injured so he should have dropped the belt.and done what was right for the business-you know the one he gave his life for?yknow? Jim Duggan>Austin HOOOOOOOO! |
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Post by laythvandam on Oct 1, 2008 14:29:49 GMT -5
The Starrcade 97 main event.
Hogan's ego was the size of the earth, Sting should have beat him within an inch of his life like everybody wanted, but no, Hogan had to lose the belt via a screwy finish and had to pin Sting before that ever happened.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2008 12:08:45 GMT -5
Everybody already named some good ones, but I'll say that Austin's heel turn in 2001 just ruined the WWE, and ruined Austin's character forever. I agree, normally fan reaction dictates when a face should turn heel or vice versa, when you do it out of the blue, it doesn't normally tend to work. Look how Austin was still heavilly cheered after his turn in 2001, it just didn't work. You have to look at things like when Rocky Maivia was turned heel into The Rock, it was because the crowd reaction forced it, look at Austin/Bret's double turn at WM13, it was because the crowd reaction forced it. This is why I can't understand why John Cena isn't turned heel, the crowd demand it, if you listen to the boo's but Vince would prefer merchandise revenue that Cena generates from kids over a logical booking decision, which would be good for business in the long run. +1.great post |
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Post by James Hardy on Oct 2, 2008 23:01:42 GMT -5
Turning the Invasion angle into the McMahon family feud. The Invasion angle really did start out awesome, basically how it should have. It was the most anticipated storyline angle for a lot of wrestling fans, and it turned out to be an absolute flop. It was more about the McMahon's than anything else. It didn't bother me to have a Shane vs. Vince storyline.. that was cool. But when you throw Stephanie in to the mix and put the wrestlers in the background, it just ruined it. On top of that, like mentioned before, most of the alliance's heels were WWF created stars. Just a huge let down overall. The only good to come of it was the ECW reuniting on an episode of RAW.. which was then ruined by the announcement that Stephanie McMahon was the new owner of ECW.
Triple H overruling Chris Jericho's WWF championship win. When Jericho unexpectedly won the title that night, I marked like crazy, as I'm sure a whole lot of people did. But unfortunately what would have been a great moment in WWF history became an afterthought that most people don't even remember.
Triple H beating Booker T. at WrestleMania XIX. After being booked as an inferior opponent, and even having racist comments from Triple H towards him, Booker T. was buried at WrestleMania. I mean history shows that when a challenger is made to look the way Booker T. was in that feud, he's supposed to be triumphant, but of course Triple H re writes the rules. It's rumored that Booker didn't win the title because Bill Goldberg had just been signed and was supposed to feud with H. That makes me believe that maybe Trips wasn't just clinging to his spot and using his powers, but still after making Booker look so bad in the feud only for him to get buried is one of the biggest injustices in WWE history.
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Post by LeighD on Oct 3, 2008 11:16:17 GMT -5
Honestly, the whole Invasion angle really boggles my mind. The WWF really hurried through it which I think hurt the overall effect of the two companies coming together. I mean when the nWo invaded WCW in 1996 the angle lasted for quite sometime. However, the nWo angle really got overused and should have ended about 1 1/2 - 2 years after the 1996 Bash at the Beach. The WWF could have had a good year or two of angles!
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Post by carly1988 on Oct 3, 2008 16:42:42 GMT -5
Honestly, the whole Invasion angle really boggles my mind. The WWF really hurried through it which I think hurt the overall effect of the two companies coming together. I mean when the nWo invaded WCW in 1996 the angle lasted for quite sometime. However, the nWo angle really got overused and should have ended about 1 1/2 - 2 years after the 1996 Bash at the Beach. The WWF could have had a good year or two of angles! The Invasion angle sucked....I cant completely blame WWE for it though. They couldnt get the stars like Sting, Luger, Hogan etc right off the bat. That would have made it much better. I guess if they would have waited until contracts ran out then they could have done it better. Something that always peeved me is in your sig. Why a "wwf" wrestler was the WCW champion and vice versa annoyed the hell out of me |
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Post by Mr.mike on Oct 3, 2008 18:13:39 GMT -5
an injured Hogan beating Randy Orton at Summerslam. It just made Orton look really really bad and they could have made it where Orton won be taking advantage of the injury and then Hogan getting his revenge down the line at like Wrestlemania.
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