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Post by James Hetfield on Sept 26, 2008 13:11:58 GMT -5
Still doesn't make it right what he did. I don't think anyone is disputing what happened wrong though if she was consentful and it was obvious that she didn't look her age then I still wouldn't blame him entirely. Obviously from the shirt 'Cide is wearin... he's too drunk to care anyway. He's a grown ass man, he should be able to control himself.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Sept 26, 2008 15:57:07 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is disputing what happened wrong though if she was consentful and it was obvious that she didn't look her age then I still wouldn't blame him entirely. Obviously from the shirt 'Cide is wearin... he's too drunk to care anyway. He's a grown ass man, he should be able to control himself. I dunno man. From goin to clubs there are some girls there that are just damn hot but once you go out and get somethin to eat you find out they are really only 16 and damn it was hard to tell.
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Post by James Hetfield on Sept 27, 2008 1:26:21 GMT -5
So Homicide didn't know what pedophile meant? Heh.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Sept 27, 2008 2:30:59 GMT -5
I can't believe this is still being discussed, the truth came out quite a while back. Maff had gotten with together with an ex of Homicide, and Homicide took it as a major slight and pretty much had him blackballed from wrestling. In his anger and in the heat of the moment he did call him a pedophile, but the 2 versions of the story was Homicide didnt know what it meant, and the more likely he said it to bury him and hurt him even more. The girl in question was NOT a family member, was NOT underage, and the relationship WAS consentual. Over time the wounds have heeled and with Homicides blessing, Maff was alloud to return, in the beginging the tension was still tight but things are getting better as seen in the pic. I do remember the ex part. I don't remember him ever saying that the pedophile thing was ever really reconciled but that he wanted to take it back mostly due to the RF thing and didn't want it confused with that situation.
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Post by Grapple Arcade on Sept 27, 2008 12:50:30 GMT -5
Homicide did say Maff is a pedophile but really it's not like Maff had forced sex with the person from Homicide's family other wise he would of been in jail for rape. The other person was just as willing. Sure she might have been underage but as I said it's not like he had forced sex with her. Obviously they buried the hatchet so none of this really matters but I just wanted throw that out there. Are you for real, underage is underage you tool... heat or no heat he still should have gone to jail... pedophilia is still illegal, it doesn't have to be rape.
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Post by Blade on Sept 27, 2008 13:00:38 GMT -5
Homicide did say Maff is a pedophile but really it's not like Maff had forced sex with the person from Homicide's family other wise he would of been in jail for rape. The other person was just as willing. Sure she might have been underage but as I said it's not like he had forced sex with her. Obviously they buried the hatchet so none of this really matters but I just wanted throw that out there. Are you for real, underage is underage you tool... heat or no heat he still should have gone to jail... pedophilia is still illegal, it doesn't have to be rape. In his anger and in the heat of the moment he did call him a pedophile, but the 2 versions of the story was Homicide didnt know what it meant, and the more likely he said it to bury him and hurt him even more. The girl in question was NOT a family member, was NOT underage, and the relationship WAS consentual.
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Post by James Hetfield on Sept 27, 2008 13:32:54 GMT -5
Are you for real, underage is underage you tool... heat or no heat he still should have gone to jail... pedophilia is still illegal, it doesn't have to be rape. In his anger and in the heat of the moment he did call him a pedophile, but the 2 versions of the story was Homicide didnt know what it meant, and the more likely he said it to bury him and hurt him even more. The girl in question was NOT a family member, was NOT underage, and the relationship WAS consentual. Doesn't matter if it happened or not, he was still somewhat taking blame off of Maff if he was with an underage girl.
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Post by Blade on Sept 27, 2008 13:39:20 GMT -5
Obviously if Maff didn't do time and Homicide gave him his blessing, it couldn't have been as bad as people try to make it out to be. It had nothing to do with an underage girl or a family member. It was probably just a girlfriend. They've patched things up and went on with their lives.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Sept 27, 2008 13:41:16 GMT -5
Things are patched up and Homicide doesn't care so why should anyone else? MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFES!!!
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Post by James Hetfield on Sept 27, 2008 13:44:20 GMT -5
That may be the case, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have been wrong if he had done something with an underage girl.
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Post by Grapple Arcade on Sept 27, 2008 14:26:50 GMT -5
That may be the case, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have been wrong if he had done something with an underage girl. exactly man, which is what my original was in response to... if he didnt do it, then fair enough, i was actually responding to the whole "its not like it was rape, she was only under age" comment... i dont care if they like each other or not. Must be comment of the year!
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Sept 27, 2008 15:02:18 GMT -5
For the record he shouldn't be in jail because even if she was under age she didn't press any charges. Or less charges are pressed which they weren't he can't go to jail and that's if she was even under age.
James Hetfield didn't you just mention in another thread that what they do inside the ring should matter because everything else is just hear say? Personally if he slept with an under age girl or not I don't care because obviously Homicide is over it so why should anyone else care? They shouldn't. End of story!
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Post by James Hetfield on Sept 27, 2008 15:03:18 GMT -5
For the record he shouldn't be in jail because even if she was under age she didn't press any charges. Or less charges are pressed which they weren't he can't go to jail and that's if she was even under age. James Hetfield didn't you just mention in another thread that what they do inside the ring should matter because everything else is just hear say? Personally if he slept with an under age girl or not I don't care because obviously Homicide is over it so why should anyone else care? They shouldn't. End of story! I said backstage politics within the job. Pedophilia shouldn't go unmentioned.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Sept 27, 2008 15:09:45 GMT -5
For the record he shouldn't be in jail because even if she was under age she didn't press any charges. Or less charges are pressed which they weren't he can't go to jail and that's if she was even under age. James Hetfield didn't you just mention in another thread that what they do inside the ring should matter because everything else is just hear say? Personally if he slept with an under age girl or not I don't care because obviously Homicide is over it so why should anyone else care? They shouldn't. End of story! I said backstage politics within the job. Pedophilia shouldn't go unmentioned. It's all hear say though. You don't know what really happened and Homicide will most likely never let that story out. But even if it did, it shows how sad some are to care so much about it when Homicide the guy all this happened to has got over it.
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Post by Grapple Arcade on Sept 28, 2008 5:14:24 GMT -5
For the record he shouldn't be in jail because even if she was under age she didn't press any charges. Or less charges are pressed which they weren't he can't go to jail and that's if she was even under age. omg! even if she didnt press charges, its still illegal man, if it had come out in the open and she had told someone, HE CAN STILL GO TO PRISON, its an offence to sleep with a minor, even if she agrees, her parents agree or jesus agrees, its against the law. I work in a school man, we do courses on child protection and vulnerable adults, and yes.... regardless of charges being pressed or not (in fairness depends on state/country) he could still have gone to prison. If someone had reported it.
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Post by Grapple Arcade on Sept 29, 2008 4:54:06 GMT -5
Does any body read what is written here, I got this straight from the mouth of Ref Hanson who is close to Maff and Homicide. Maff had gotten with together with an ex of Homicide, and Homicide took it as a major slight and pretty much had him blackballed from wrestling.In his anger and in the heat of the moment he did call him a pedophile, although it wasn't true, he did it to HURT him and his reputation. The girl in question was NOT a family member, was NOT underage, and the relationship WAS consentual.Over time the wounds have heeled and with Homicides blessing, Maff was alloud to return, in the beginging the tension was still tight but things are getting better as seen in the pic. i for one was not doubting what you are saying, i was just arguing the point the pedos can go to prison, even if the underage girl gives consent, someone on here thinks otherwise. Its nice to see that they have finally resolved things, and it was out of line for Homicide to call him a pedo, that how stuff gets passed around (i.e this thread).
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Post by bigeazy on Sept 29, 2008 8:47:49 GMT -5
Does any body read what is written here, I got this straight from the mouth of Ref Hanson who is close to Maff and Homicide. Maff had gotten with together with an ex of Homicide, and Homicide took it as a major slight and pretty much had him blackballed from wrestling.In his anger and in the heat of the moment he did call him a pedophile, although it wasn't true, he did it to HURT him and his reputation. The girl in question was NOT a family member, was NOT underage, and the relationship WAS consentual.Over time the wounds have heeled and with Homicides blessing, Maff was alloud to return, in the beginging the tension was still tight but things are getting better as seen in the pic. i for one was not doubting what you are saying, i was just arguing the point the pedos can go to prison, even if the underage girl gives consent, someone on here thinks otherwise. Its nice to see that they have finally resolved things, and it was out of line for Homicide to call him a pedo, that how stuff gets passed around (i.e this thread). Don't even waste your time with that guy, he runs DOIwrestling.com the sleaziest website out there. His biases run deep, and he's oblivious to what goes on around him.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Sept 29, 2008 13:24:36 GMT -5
How does Homicide even have enough stroke, to get somone black-balled in the first place?..
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Post by WCWA Online on Sept 29, 2008 13:48:21 GMT -5
because he's a TNA bigshot
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