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Post by masquerblade on Sept 22, 2008 21:35:24 GMT -5
hey, i have never read a graphic novel before and was kinda wanting to try them and had heard that the killing joke was pretty good also i am an avid fan of batman, not like i read a bunch of comics and whatnot but i do like batman a lot and my brother has the watchmen on his computer so i was wondering what you guys thought of it. i also heard that v for vendetta was good
also if you have any other ideas for what to read please give me ideas all help is greatly appreciated
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Post by trentcole on Sept 22, 2008 21:39:22 GMT -5
i take it your brother is a fan of alan moore?
"the killing joke" is a great story, it really gives some depth and historical perspective to the bitter rivalry between joker and batman. but it's considered "non-canon" these days, i don't really know why... so its kind of considered its own stand alone story. i was really hoping Christopher Nolan would've closely adapted Killing Joke for "The Dark Knight," and cast Brad Dourif as Joker. but TDK turned out fine anyway.
i'd read Watchmen before Killing Joke, by the way.
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Post by masquerblade on Sept 22, 2008 21:44:28 GMT -5
thanks for the advice and my brother had just had the watchmen recommended to him by about all of his friends so he downloaded it at a friends house that had good internet
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Post by jomoishollywood on Sept 22, 2008 21:51:09 GMT -5
Its amazing.
Watchmen is long, so if your looking for something to start you should definately get The Killing Joke.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2008 21:53:22 GMT -5
As it concerns V for Vendetta- I find it extremely boring. The movie at least.
I like the concept of anarchy vs. fascism and everything, but it just is really boring.
Just my two cents.
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Post by masquerblade on Sept 22, 2008 21:57:49 GMT -5
man, i just found out that my brother wont let me read the watchmen because "i need to wait a couple years so i will appreciate it" and because i would have to spend like a ton of time in front of his computer which i understand but i'm not old enough? could i please have you guys' opinion
BTW i'm 13
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Post by K5 on Sept 22, 2008 22:02:55 GMT -5
it's not that you couldn't understand the concepts, it's that you wouldn't necessarily be able to relate to the situations enough to enjoy the story fully...i'd wait it off if i were you, there's lots of comics more appealing to a 13 year old. year one, batman black and white, year two and vengeance of bane are all great batmans to begin with. maybe after that check out last laugh, and then hush
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Post by FleshyOne on Sept 22, 2008 22:14:01 GMT -5
man, i just found out that my brother wont let me read the watchmen because "i need to wait a couple years so i will appreciate it" and because i would have to spend like a ton of time in front of his computer which i understand but i'm not old enough? could i please have you guys' opinion BTW i'm 13 That's what I'm doing with my 13 year old brother. I told him to wait until he's 16 or 17. I read it when I was 14 and then reread it this year (17 now) and enjoyed it a million times more. Definitely check out Batman Year One if you're a Bats fan.
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Post by Stinger TNA on Sept 22, 2008 22:20:34 GMT -5
Yeah, at the age of 13, Watchmen wouldn't be as good as a read as it would be if you read it when you are older. Killing Joke isn't the best, because it's short and also a bit odd. I'd go with some of K5's suggestions, but I'd also recommend your first book to be the Long Halloween.
V for Vendetta is....meh.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Sept 22, 2008 22:59:26 GMT -5
If you're 13, then I'd start with "The Runaways".
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Sept 22, 2008 23:07:40 GMT -5
The Killing Joke is stellar because of 3 simple words:
"One bad day..."
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Post by Johnny on Sept 22, 2008 23:15:40 GMT -5
Comic Board, tbh.
But if you're into Batman, get TLH.
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Post by ainsoph on Sept 23, 2008 2:55:03 GMT -5
Comic Board, tbh. But if you're into Batman, get TLH. I can see the Long Halloween being very confusing to someone who has no experience reading comics. The Killing Joke is a simple story. Not the greatest book ever, like some will say, but it is pretty awesome. Hush may also be pretty confusing. Now, if you really want to get into batman. Watch some of the animated series episodes. (Batman: TAS.) Then go and read the comics and you'll be appreciative of how accurately portrayed they were from comic to screen.
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Post by masquerblade on Sept 23, 2008 7:55:08 GMT -5
i usually do watch it whenever i see it on toon disney and i have realized how close they come to the comics
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Post by sasso on Sept 23, 2008 13:05:57 GMT -5
As it concerns V for Vendetta- I find it extremely boring. The movie at least. I like the concept of anarchy vs. fascism and everything, but it just is really boring. Just my two cents. Only an idiot would comment negatively on a book based solely on it's crappy movie adaptation without ever having read the thing. "Idiot" is actually being very nice considering what word popped into my head first. V for Vendetta is one of the best graphic novels of all time. I would put it in the top 5. As far as what books to pick up, I'd stay away from works like V and Watchmen. You'll be able to appreciate them more when you're older. It's hard trying to suggest some books to start you off since you haven't really told us what genres and types of stories interest you.
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Post by theforrestgriffin2 on Sept 23, 2008 14:36:37 GMT -5
Well for a batman fan, I would look into year one first so you have some more back round on batman. Then I would read killing joke. Also when I first got into comics I asked the guy at the local comic store one great graphic novels are out. And he was very helpful. So try that too.
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Post by masquerblade on Sept 23, 2008 15:20:04 GMT -5
well i live in this little podunk town that doesnt have a comic book store or anywhere to get comics although there is a books a-million about an hour away that has a lot of graphic novels and i've noticed a few x-men comics and such
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Only an idiot would comment negatively on a book based solely on it's crappy movie adaptation without ever having read the thing. "Idiot" is actually being very nice considering what word popped into my head first.
V for Vendetta is one of the best graphic novels of all time. I would put it in the top 5.
As far as what books to pick up, I'd stay away from works like V and Watchmen. You'll be able to appreciate them more when you're older.
It's hard trying to suggest some books to start you off since you haven't really told us what genres and types of stories interest you.[/quote]
pretty much anything superhero oriented or anything that has to do with magic are my types of books
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Post by masquerblade on Sept 23, 2008 15:43:17 GMT -5
also i dont really wanna start collecting comic books like a die hard fan because i have had some bad experiences with collecting things
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Post by Philzilla28 on Sept 23, 2008 16:51:03 GMT -5
Your doing yourself a favor if you read The Killing Joke. It has an amazing storyline along with great artwork. For me it is up there with one of the best graphic novels. Also if you get a chance read The Long Halloween, that is also an awesome graphic novel.
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Post by Epic Z on Sept 26, 2008 19:07:13 GMT -5
Man I just read the killing joke and I have to say it was amazing everything was prefect in it. The artwork was really good.It was a classic insane Joker and a cool read.
Also try some Ultimate Spider Man although your a Batman fan it's a really good comic book series
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