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Post by natureboyfauser on Nov 21, 2021 13:15:27 GMT -5
As always ... love WWE Elite figures. Love Mattel. Sad we don't have new to the line legends. It really seems odd and disappointing for collectors to not get the many legends from the great history of WWF - WWE- WCW. Hope somehow this can change.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Sept 21, 2021 13:25:41 GMT -5
Steve, Thanks for answering our questions ... first I did support the ring (doink - line) because I wanted to see the possibilities open for us/you etc ... but my question is something I know you are trying to help with. In the case of these Target exclusive Legend lines is there anyway you can get them to cooperate with us avid fans to have a shot at them on-line (like Warlord Powers of Pain or Colonel Mustafa) ?? It just seems so smart for Target to do this with you and yet not as smart to not capitalize on it more. I think instead of a win win - we all are losing. Target is losing for not getting more money - we are losing to either give up or go to the secondary market and Mattel is losing for frustrating their loyal fan base because Target does not make it more available. Hope this can get fixed. THANK YOU!
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Post by natureboyfauser on Aug 14, 2021 7:59:08 GMT -5
Steve, Congrats on passing the target for the ring! Great for Mattel and for all who has purchased it. Win Win! I am curious ... will you add other incentives to try to get the number higher? Like the Sarge (which is already sculpted) but with a different packaging to make it more enticing? Or would that not be cost effective? Or are you happy where you are at? Thanks for your response.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Aug 14, 2021 7:55:24 GMT -5
Congrats on this being a success! Love it! I wonder if Mattel will start adding incentives to see how much higher it can go? I remember doing this with McFarlane and thought it was so cool how they kept adding things.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Aug 10, 2021 14:09:58 GMT -5
A King Harley Race figure along with your Mattel Creations I think would easily put it over the top. Is that possible? Or a Sarge.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Aug 9, 2021 7:44:43 GMT -5
I wasn't banned or deleted but have some questions and statements please.
My statement is that I am very complementary of this forum, Steve and Mattel for being so kind to answering our questions and being interactive, I love the WWE elite figures, and appreciate my fellow collectors. I state that often and it is sincere. Another statement is that as a long time collector I have supported various lines including Mattel on wrestling rings and only have so much space (5 on display) - so even though I would love the light up entrance and the new doink figure ... I might not get this due to space ... with that said I am not trying to knock it. I hope it works for everyone and am rooting for success. I'm also a huge Legends collector and it has been frustrating to hear how they don't sell year in and year out and yet they continue to be some of the hardest figures to get. When I see a topic that I don't agree with or that I don't care for I usually just don't respond. If the thread goes away it goes away if not it keeps going.
My questions are ....
1. On my recent post of Getting over it ... It was a done as a frustration of being a dedicated collector - but finding it increasingly more difficult to find the figures I want but others claim they don't sell. If I am Mattel I don't want to lose a dedicated collector. Many agreed with me and if Mattel saw it they may try to help us created a win win. Why was it locked? 2. Why can people suggest to lock a thread and then you do? If they don't like the thread why don't they just ignore it and let it go away. 3. Why can people call us "Martyr. Childish, Whiner." I didn't think you were allowed to call people names? Why don't you just warn or ban them? That cleans up the thread. 4. Isn't it counterproductive and demeaning for people to mock fellow collectors "They are just action figures?" I know they are JUST action figures - but I am on a collector forum to discuss action figures for reason ... because I care. "I found it be patient". Where do they live? Is it possible we live in different areas? Is it possible I don't have a target 40 minutes from my house? That I can't find it on their site and am just trying to get a "legend figure" which apparently doesn't sell on-line?? All of those things seem to be so combative or trolling. Why not show the link of where they are available if it is so easy? That would be productive and add tremendous value to the forum more so then mock a fellow collector as to how easy it is. 5. My collection was locked. Why? I wrote you privately for direction and it was just blown off. What did I do that was so wrong that would lock it and not respond to my private message?
Thank you for this forum ... again, I value it and those that care about fellow collectors and their passions.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 29, 2021 21:14:07 GMT -5
I don't want Mattel to lose the license ... I love their product - I just want better ways of getting it and will try to pursue that until it is no longer fun. I truly wish if people didn't like what people say who are looking for better solutions or they don't think it applies to them just move on and let it die ... The name calling of "Martyr" or "complainer" only seems like trolling and hostile instead of allowing us to seek better solutions. I don't get it.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 29, 2021 20:52:23 GMT -5
So what figures dont you have that you want? Thanks for asking. I am not the kind of collector that cares about mint on card - or chase figures unless I think those are the iconic look for me. For example, I wanted the regular Greg Valentine in the black trucks ... if I saw the yellow one in the store there's a real good chance I would leave it there for a collector since my collection is on display and I got the Valentine I want. So here are the ones I want or have had troubles finding for Mattel prices. 1. King Harley Race. (I wanted him badly because I watched him as a kid and saw Flair beating him for the championship) 2. The newest Ted Dibiase in Black. The regular one ... not the chase. Not into that look as much. 3. The New Brutus Beefcake. Not the chase just the regular one. If I could get him on-line or in the store I wouldn't complain. He is not available in the store so on-line is it. 4. The New JYD in Red. Not the chase in blue. 5. The New Rowdy Piper. 6. The new Colonel Mustafa 7. The New Chief Strombow when he becomes available. 8. I had trouble finding Kama but a fellow board member guided me to one that wasn't terribly over priced. Thanks to that awesome board member. Wish I could have just paid Mattel for that one instead of a resell. Then I probably would buy more out of habit if they were easier to get ... like Bam Bam, Macho, Scott Hall, - so there is a lot more money to be had for Mattel just because I would support them and may have different looks for some of them. I collect Marvel Legends too from the very beginning .... There was a Rogue figure made a few years back that was hard to find for a popular character ... there was a lot of buzz about making that figure more available ... they made several other Rogues with different looks and now they are re-releasing the classic Rogue that people wanted again in different packaging. Love it! More money for them and helps collectors. If they re-released King Harley Race with different packaging or no packing I would equally love it.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 29, 2021 17:25:01 GMT -5
imgur.com/a/G4gYujtHope you enjoy! I'm obviously a Passionate collector of WWE Mattel! I have rings on display and some that are in storage. A massive amount of figures in storage. Also I have been featured on McFarlane's site ... type in McFarlane and Fauser and you will see 1/4 of my collection. I have so much more than that. So the money is there for a ton of lines. The passion is there. The history is there. WWE Elite Mattel is one of my favorites. So if I spend time on here trying to gain knowledge and get figures and run into difficulties that I don't think is necessary I will voice my concern. I love the figures which is now obvious ... but I am not going to miss work, take a dump, make an excuse to leave work, pay scalper prices to get these. I know all about going after dreams ... but my dreams are a lot more than action figures. The negative people on this forum to basically tell me to shut up mean nothing to me ... when Mattel tells me that I am done - in the meantime I appreciate this forum very much and my fellow collectors that share this passion and I hope you get the figures you are in search of.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 29, 2021 16:56:23 GMT -5
Sometimes the "people" on here that are negative to those that missed out - or make a point to be critical of others really makes me wonder:
1. Are they just nasty people who don't care about fellow collectors? 2. Are they scalpers who know they can charge more now? 3. Are they shills for Mattel to make everything great and try to shut people up for caring and wanting a greater opportunity to BUY!
I really could careless ...
I appreciate this forum for allowing us to have a voice to share our passions, hope for Mattel's success, and allow for constructive criticism.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 29, 2021 16:49:58 GMT -5
"Legends don't sell" What do you think of that argument now? That is what we heard for awhile. I am grateful to Steve for fighting for us. Concerts to figures is not a comparison. 36 years old? Try being 59 when there was no way to get on-line and you had to go drive to store to store. There wasn't the collector base then that there is now so it was almost easier and with technology it should be even easier NOW.
Again, I am surprised that some fellow collectors have the mindset of screw you - I got mine - deal with it or quit. For those who understand my heart ... I thank you! Bottom line ... I want ALL of you get what you want! I want Mattel to sell more! I want Target to sell more or whomever is the retailer. I want a win win for all. I am going to strive for it until I 'm totally over it ... and if and when that happens ... I will seek a positive board member to get first dibs of my collection not the negative people. Sorry.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 29, 2021 15:01:00 GMT -5
And it happened again today. Forgive me for working so I can provide for my family and buy Legends 12 ... but I missed the 10 minutes on-line at Target ... which tells me something is terribly wrong AGAIN! Why can't ringside get a batch? Why can't Target order more so this at least lasts for a day? Why can't we be a year out as in crowdfunding so people can by 100 of them if they want. Target makes more money - Mattel makes more money - and the collectors have time to do what they need to do. Even if it was a 2 to 4 week availability. JOKE! A HUGE SLAP to Collectors! "Legends don't sell" and the line is gone within ten minutes or less. Mmmmmmmmmm! SCREAMMMMMMMM in utter frustration!
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 26, 2021 15:49:23 GMT -5
I'll be honest, I don't follow the WWE HOF induction list that closely, how many HOFers that we know were under a Legends deal have we not gotten figures off? As for people who don't have Legends deals, I agree in the sense that I'd love to know some specific stories behind those who refuse to sign them vs those WWE refuses to sign, but overall I doubt one is much more dominant than the other. The confusion people have is seeing a HOF induction or seeing other types of merch (Topps cards, video games) and thinking its a legends deal. Topps & 2K can and have gone out and signed their own talent. Mattel refuses to. They've also said multiple times that HOF inductions dont mean a legends deal. Not confused at all by it. Just curious as to how and why ... and as we discussed on here some are from the WWE, some are from the legends perhaps, some are from Mattel's timelines, some are perhaps not the demand by the retailers ... but just like wrestling has some scripted moves and some heated real throw me down stuff ... the intrigue is what is really real? What is happening and will we ever see Harley Race again or Bruiser Brody? Stan Hansen? Kevin Sullivan etc ... Ivan Koloff, Nikita Koloff, The Rock & roll Express, Ronnie Garvin, Great Muta, Hercules, Jessie the Body, Tony Atlas etc ... Does Japan have access to these figures and if not wouldn't they eat it up as well as other countries? If we know we will NEVER get them ... I would prefer to know so I quit asking and wasting everyone's time.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 26, 2021 14:53:17 GMT -5
I not only love their product but how they are so kind to answer us to the best of their ability. This is a great post and I hope they know how much they are appreciated. I KNOW they want Legends ... but for the life of me ... I am stumped why WWE has people in the Hall of Fame but we can't get figures of them. I really want to privately drink beers with those two and tell me the real scoop! Because those people either weren't offered or didn't want to sign Legends deals. Anyway, I think Bill and Steve are great. Does that mean every Mattel product is outstanding? No. Should issues be discussed? Yes. But it boggles my mind that there are people who question their passion for their work, or even their ability, given that no one on these boards truly knows what constraints they're actually under. Not 100 true. Mattel has had legends under contract and didn't have the time, room or desire to make them as well. The other items are obvious .. either WWE doesn't want them, the stores, or the wrestlers want more money or don't want it ... the question is who is stopping this the most? That is what I would love to find out off the record with some beers.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 26, 2021 14:48:12 GMT -5
Here's the thing ... I love the ENTRANCE! I love the Doink, but I simply have supported Mattel & Jakks on more rings than I have room for. I am a long time collector and HOPE the newer collectors make this so. The best way to do this is being positive. I have 2 Marvel Legend Galactus's maybe 3. But 2 for sure. They look good ... and although I really like the new one the best ... I already have two that work. So I want to support Hasbro too ... but I have to be realistic at some point. So in listening to Steve it sounds they are looking at every variable possible with price points and things in mind and I applaud that. Not knowing what they know ... and that is a LOT ... . It seems to ME ... that the best way to crowd fund for something is for something nobody has. That brings old collectors and new collectors in the game. I HOPE people do it. I am almost tempted to do it just becauseI want to support ... but I have done that way tooo many times before and simply nowhere to put the ring.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 26, 2021 10:42:28 GMT -5
I not only love their product but how they are so kind to answer us to the best of their ability. This is a great post and I hope they know how much they are appreciated. I KNOW they want Legends ... but for the life of me ... I am stumped why WWE has people in the Hall of Fame but we can't get figures of them. I really want to privately drink beers with those two and tell me the real scoop!
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 25, 2021 11:31:52 GMT -5
Steve, I have a question to see if this is plausible for a win, win, win, win. Would this idea possibly work??? If you could get 2 years out on plausible Legends. Assuming WWE would approve and the legend would approve ... you would present a crowdfunding scenario with lets say Harley Race based on goals. You would present a prototype. $30 to 40 for an elite or Ultimate figure of Harley Race with the ability to have the robe and Crown to create the King. With more people buying you could add a 70's head and a different torso with black trunks and old Championship title belt or simulated. Because of the diversity of your build a figure feature you could have either the King Harley Race or the Old Championship Race in one figure. Again, this only activates if you get a certain amount that you are requesting and other features kick in once other goals are reached. This would add instant marketers for you for those who wanted this. The Legend or their family would want it because money would be kicked in as soon as the goal was reached. Mattel would have this available within 2 years which gives them more than enough time to make this come to fruition and they would not have to depend on a retailer for this nitch product. If this was successful you could almost do this once a month with a new legend and allow your creativity to get different looks with legends to the degree the consumer pays. You would shut the whining collectors up like me. - WWE only pays legends if the collector buys and you get to profit as much money as you can instead of the scalpers. All of us would be happy for the opportunity. Please share your thoughts. Thanks again for interacting with us.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 25, 2021 11:12:29 GMT -5
I would pay for the entrance and figures that can enter them.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 25, 2021 10:07:42 GMT -5
Steve,
I was back stage at Wrestlemania 10 with Burt Reynolds. Great memories. I think we have that Shaun Michaels but Is there anyway we can get the classic Razor Ramon look from Wrestlemania 10? The black shorts with the gold vest? I appreciate your interaction with all of us.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Jul 25, 2021 8:10:43 GMT -5
Again, I am so grateful to Mattel for making these figures and for Steve and company to do their very best to help us ... so I am not picking on them ... I also know Steve is not only trying to manage their product but also trying to help decipher what the buyers are doing with kit hands to not piss them off but at the same time help us get answers.
I also don't want to squabble with fellow board members or moderators over whether Harley Race was an abnormal situation several years ago with no resolution since or if Brutus the Barber Beefcake is considered new - which is irrelevant since he is only available on line and I can't get it ... or if I suffer from a lack of patience ... when the POINT is that I have been patient ... I do look on line ... I do go to stores that I can when I can ... and value this board for help. Many of you are incredibly helpful. For those who mock us I am surprised you are defending scalper prices and not having more compassion to the many collectors who are frustrated by the game of our passion. Or maybe you are scalpers??? MMMMMMM
Since I originally posted here I received an e-mail from Walmart that the Piper figure was available again. I immediately clicked on the link and it was gone.
Again, I wonder if Mattel did their concept art on a wwe Legend 2 years out. WWE and Mattel strikes up a contingency deal with the proposed legend that if (hypothetical) 5,000 figures sell we make the figure and the legend gets x-amount and becomes more relevant again. If it is 5 to 10 thousand figures they get more ... if it is 10 to 15 thousand more ... etc ... this is all transparent to Mattel, WWE and the Legend. This gives them a window to achieve the sales - and plenty of time to execute then 2 years. How is that for patience. Again, if they did something like that ... all of us would be marketing the creation of that particular figure.
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